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Title: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 17, 2014, 02:43:32 PM
Announcing the 2014 Classic European Sports Car Tour of...Europe.  Harking back to a time when vehicle safety features were optional and sports cars weighing over 2,000lbs were considered heavy, the Wolfpack International Motorsports Pact (or WIMP, for short) brings you a competition amongst some classic sports cars that, in some instances, have been overshadowed by other contemporary greats.  During this 2 month affair we will visit many of the western European countries that spawned such fine vehicles…and swing through Spain as well.  In order to get a full experience of how these old machines handle modifications will be severely limited and only permitted in the interest of parity.  So let’s get started…

The vehicles
’72 '73 Alpine A110 1600S - 715 kg, 144 hp
’72 Lotus Europa Special – 730 kg, 132 hp
’65 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 – 745 kg, 163 hp
’71 Dino 246 GT – 1080 kg, 140 155 hp (referring to this car as a Ferrari is technically incorrect)
’73 BMW 2002 Turbo – 1080 kg, 176 hp

Mandatory modifications
Alpine – none
Europa – none
Giulia Sprint – all engine boltons to achieve 163 hp
Dino – engine detuned to 140 hp
2002 Turbo – stock 4sp transmission replaced with fixed gear 5sp transmission (NOT the custom ratio transmission)
Ballast position for all cars set to center

Racing Regulations
Sport hard tires only
Mandatory pit stops
ABS set to 1, otherwise no driver aid assists
Track penalties off
Damage weak
Drafting real
Fuel/Tire consumption very fast
False start penalty On

Series Rules
Race Length:  40-60 minutes
Penalty Ballast for podium finishers (max cumulative ballast gain of 200kg, obviously)
 1st –75kg
 2nd –50kg
 3rd – 25kg  
Penalty ballast placed in center of vehicle
One throw away race
6-7 races total: 3 consecutive Wednesdays, a one week break, than 3-4 consecutive Wednesdays


Scoring
#1 - 50       #9 -   26
#2 - 46       #10 - 24
#3 - 43       #11 - 22
#4 - 40       #12 - 20
#5 - 37       #13 - 18
#6 - 34       #14 - 17
#7 - 31       #15 - 16
#8 - 28       #16 - 15

-Disconnects during a race will be treated as a mechanical failure.  
-DNF’s will be awarded the last running order points. (14 in a race, you get 14th place points)
-If more than one disconnect occurs, points will be given in the order of disconnect.
-Anyone who misses a race will be given 10pts.

Track List & Schedule

Races will take place on Wednesday nights in my lounge (dawson864).  Practice at 9, qualifying at 9:10, race start at 9:30pm.  All times EST

5/7  – Silverstone International Circuit - 31 laps
5/14 – Circuito de Madrid - 23 laps
5/21 – Cote D’Azur - 30 laps
---Mid Series Break---
6/4 – La Sarthe w/customized transmissions set to 155mph - 10 laps
6/11 – Brands Hatch Gran Prix Circuit - 23 laps
6/25 – Circuito di Roma Reverse - 37 laps
6/18 7/2– Nurburgring Nordschleife - 7 laps

Entrants
1  Wolfpack987                 Alpine
2  TunaPhreak                   Dino
3  dlrws6                          2002  retired
4  nosoks                       Europa
5  badaboya                    Europa
6  MastrGT                       2002
7  dmcallis                    Alfa Romeo
8  peyepete                        Dino
9  NumbSkuld                  Alpine
10 Feldynn                Alfa Romeo

Results and Series standings posted 2 spots down.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on April 17, 2014, 04:58:01 PM
Since it looks like two BMW 2002s have already been claimed I'll just go with the Alfa :).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 18, 2014, 02:17:34 PM
OVERALL SERIES STANDINGS with math showing points dropped for worst finish
Wolfpack987     305 - 40 = 265 pts
Feldynn           291 - 34 = 257
badaboya1       302 - 37 = 265
peyepete         284 - 28 = 256
Numbskuld       300 - 28 = 272
nosoks            240 - 28 = 212
TunaPhreak      226 - 10 = 216
dmcallis           162 - 10 = 152
MastrGT          184 - 10 = 174

AND YOUR WINNER IS.....NUMBSKULD!

FINAL SERIES RESULTS
1 - NumbSkuld - 272 points
2 - badaboya1  - 265
2 - Wolfpack987 - 265
4 - Feldynn        - 257
5 - peyepete     - 256
6 - TunaPhreak - 216
7 - nosoks       - 212
8 - MastrGT     - 174
9 - dmcallis      - 152


Race #1 - Silverstone International Circuit Results
1  - Wolfpack987            42:09.271
2  - NumbSkuld            +     04.907  
3  - badaboya1             +    08.165
4  - peyepete                +    29.194
5  - Feldynn                 +    36.578
6  - dlrws6                   + 1:12.256
7  - TunaPhreak            + 1:38.006
8  - nosoks                  + 2:11.764
9  - F1Cheetor            DNS
9  - dmcallis                DNS
9  - MasterGT             DNS

Race #2 - Circuito de Madrid Results
1  - Feldynn                   40:46.622
2  - peyepete                +    07.601  
3  - Wolfpack987          +    20.929
4  - badaboya1             +    36.366
5  - Numbskuld             +    42.344
6  - TunaPhreak            + 1:00.441
7  - MastrGT                + 1:13.030
8  - nosoks                  + 1:22.903
9  - dmcallis                    DNF
10 - dlrws6                     DNS - network error
11 - F1Cheetor               DNS

Race #3 - Cote D'Azur Results
1 - Numbskuld             59:36.166
2 - badaboya1              +  13.055
3 - Wolfpack987           +  26.493
4 - Feldynn                  +  32.237
5 - peyepete                +  59.667
6 - nosoks                         DNF
7 - dmcallis                        DNF
8 - TunaPhreak                  DNF
9 - MastrGT                       DNS

Race #4 - La Sarthe Results
1 - badaboya1                   53:15.321
2 - NumbSkuld                  +   19.037
3 - Feldynn                       +   22.100
4 - Wolfpack987                +   36.075
5 - peyepete                     + 1:27.743
6 - dmcallis                       + 1:36.960
7 - nosoks                       + 1:38.511
8 - MastrGT                     + 1:42.325
9 - TunaPhreak                       DNS

Race #5 - Brands Hatch Grand Prix Results
1 - peyepete                      42:14.861
2 - Wolfpack987                + 0:01.430
3 - NumbSkuld                  + 0:20.727
4 - badaboya1                  + 0:31.913
5 - Feldynn                       + 0:45.049
6 - MastrGT                      + 1:01.433
7 - nosoks                        + 1:38.576
8 - dmcallis                       + 2:44.844
9 - TunaPhreak                       DNS

Race #7 - Circuito di Roma Reverse
1 - Feldynn               54:53.844
2 - peyepete            + 0:14.132
3 - TunaPhreak         + 0:18.842
4 - Wolfpack987       + 0:30.879
5 - badaboya1          + 0:33.379
6 - MastrGT             + 0:45.062
7 - nosoks               + 1:08.942
8 - Numbskuld         + 1:22.880
9 - dmcallis              + 2:15.344

Race #6 - Nurburgring Nordshleife
1 - NumbSkuld           1:00:24.374
2 - badaboya1              +0:24.044
3 - Wolfpack987           +0:45.809
4 - TunaPhreak             +1:04.446
5 - MastrGT                 +1:18.310
6 - Feldynn                  +1:35.209
7 - nosoks                  +2:01.366
8 - peyepete                +2:06.211
9 - dmcallis                       DNS

Penalty Ballast for final race
Feldynn                   100 kg
badaboya1            50 kg
Wolfpack987         125 kg
Numbskuld            25 kg
peyepete               125 kg
TunaPhreak           25 kg
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on April 18, 2014, 08:09:16 PM
Two Alpines taken so I'll use the Dino. :P
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 22, 2014, 07:31:10 AM
Roger that!

OP updated to reflect correct vehicle horsepower ratings.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on April 27, 2014, 07:22:27 AM
ok, this often got me in trouble in my young days...
no one picked a Europa yet

"I'll do it"   :lolz
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 28, 2014, 10:13:57 AM
sounds good soks!  Oh, I hadn't updated the list in a while but F1Cheetor also picked the Europa  :D
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on April 28, 2014, 10:45:03 AM
I don't recall offhand what my Alfa came out at with the mods or if I did an oil change or not but I just noticed a small discrepancy in the first post regarding the HP:

The vehicles
’65 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 – 745 kg, 163 hp

Mandatory modifications
Giulia Sprint – all engine boltons to achieve 155 hp

..  while typing it occured to me that 155hp may be just mods and 163hp might be with an oil change too (or after some engine break in, assuming that happens in GT6 of course LOL).  Not a big deal either way but I just thought I'd mention it in case I'm doing some wrong :).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wiz on April 28, 2014, 10:49:41 AM
(or after some engine break in, assuming that happens in GT6 of course LOL)

It doesn't.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 29, 2014, 06:42:40 AM
Feldynn, that horsepower discrepancy was due to sloppiness on my part.  The 155 hp figure was pre-oil change.  The 163 is the correct, and "post-oil change" figure.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on April 29, 2014, 10:11:17 AM
No worries Dawson, thanks for clearing it up :).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on April 29, 2014, 04:32:46 PM
Looks like I will have to miss race 1, its a holiday here tomorrow
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on April 29, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
Looks like I will have to miss race 1, its a holiday here tomorrow

It must be one heck of a holiday, if a one day holiday lasts for a week. :P
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on April 29, 2014, 07:56:14 PM
Looks like I will have to miss race 1, its a holiday here tomorrow

It must be one heck of a holiday, if a one day holiday lasts for a week. :P




duuhh  (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 01, 2014, 06:36:22 AM
Race 1, at Silverstone International, will be 31 laps.

Also note that we will be utilizing "very fast" tire wear, instead of previously stated "fast".
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 02, 2014, 07:24:40 AM
All car choices now set.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: MasterGT on May 02, 2014, 07:33:29 PM
Anyone on now who wants to practice?
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on May 07, 2014, 07:36:17 AM
:bump
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: badaboya1 on May 07, 2014, 01:58:57 PM
Is it too late to enter this?
I know some people were limited on car choice. Could get somebody to do a random draw if that works, or could do it myself.

I see you already have two of each car so, maybe you just want to leave it that way.

Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 07, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
Bada you can join.  If you haven't done any testing randomly pick a car please.

BTW my mic hasn't been working properly but mics are fine for the race.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: badaboya1 on May 07, 2014, 05:37:45 PM
I have driven all of these in the past but not at these specs.
By random draw I have chosen the Dino.
Scary.

Thanks for letting me sneak in at the last minute!!
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 07, 2014, 07:27:24 PM
MastrGT where are you?  :(
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: MasterGT on May 07, 2014, 08:48:28 PM
Sorry, this is what I get for trying to do two events on one date.

For some reason, I was thinking it was held on Fridays.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on May 07, 2014, 08:56:10 PM
Thanks Wolf, fun racing, especially the first half with Feldynn.
Should tighten up next week with the added weight.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 08, 2014, 12:09:44 PM
Congrats to race winner (me) and to podium finishers Numbskuld & badaboya1!

Official results posted on front page of thread, post #3.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on May 08, 2014, 12:20:06 PM
Thanks Wolf, fun racing, especially the first half with Feldynn.
Should tighten up next week with the added weight.

(http://i.imgur.com/6MdsBhz.png)

Great racing for that first half Pete, lots of back and forth passing, neither one of us could shake the other until I went into the pits probably too early haha.

Also thanks Dawson / wolf for running it, looking forward to the next one :).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 13, 2014, 06:29:37 AM
Unfortunately I had to hand down a penalty after the last race.  The Alpine Numbskuld used for race #1 wasn't legal for the series and had a more aggressive gearbox allowing better performance.  I'm 100% certain this was unintentional on Numb's part but I'm just trying to be fair to everyone.  30 seconds added to total race time is the penalty, which drops Numbskuld to 4th and lifts badaboya1 and peyepete to 2nd and 3rd.  That means that badaboya1 now has 50 kg ballast instead of 25, and that peyepete now has 25 kg ballast.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on May 13, 2014, 06:54:35 AM
^
Wolf, you have me and Bada switched with the position and weight. :o
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 13, 2014, 07:43:25 AM
whoops!

Race #2 length is 23 laps
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on May 13, 2014, 04:00:10 PM
Unfortunately I had to hand down a penalty after the last race.  The Alpine Numbskuld used for race #1 wasn't legal for the series and had a more aggressive gearbox allowing better performance.  I'm 100% certain this was unintentional on Numb's part but I'm just trying to be fair to everyone.  30 seconds added to total race time is the penalty, which drops Numbskuld to 4th and lifts badaboya1 and peyepete to 2nd and 3rd.  That means that badaboya1 now has 50 kg ballast instead of 25, and that peyepete now has 25 kg ballast.

Announcing the 2014 Classic European Sports Car Tour of...Europe.  Harking back to a time when vehicle safety features were optional and sports cars weighing over 2,000lbs were considered heavy, the Wolfpack International Motorsports Pact (or WIMP, for short) brings you a competition amongst some classic sports cars that, in some instances, have been overshadowed by other contemporary greats.  During this 2 month affair we will visit many of the western European countries that spawned such fine vehicles…and swing through Spain as well.  In order to get a full experience of how these old machines handle modifications will be severely limited and only permitted in the interest of parity.  So let’s get started…

The vehicles
’72 Alpine A110 1600S - 715 kg, 144 hp
’72 Lotus Europa Special – 730 kg, 132 hp
’65 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 – 745 kg, 163 hp
’71 Dino 246 GT – 1080 kg, 140 hp (referring to this car as a Ferrari is technically incorrect)
’73 BMW 2002 Turbo – 1080 kg, 176 hp


(Cross posted in PS Community)

Hi dawson,

I do not believe I should receive any penalty as I have chosen the legal / correct / specified car (1972 Alpine) as specified in you spec list.  Please check the replay.

Edit:  Added screenshot of the "Replay Details" to show the correct car used in the event.
(http://)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 14, 2014, 06:20:00 AM
Wow, you are 100% correct.  I really feel like a horse's ass!  I'm embarrassed and am sorry, Numbskuld, for pointing a finger at you.  I apparently can't keep my years straight  :-\

Penalty revoked, and I hope that none of you view me as an incompetent series organizer at this point  ::)

Please switch to an '73 model year Alpine.  I promise that is the car I've intended for this series the entire time.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: dlrws6 on May 14, 2014, 06:58:40 AM
Make sure you log in early tonight to do the update.  Its just shy of 1 gig and although it did not take long to download the install time, at least for me, was lengthy.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on May 14, 2014, 08:04:45 AM

Please switch to an '73 model year Alpine.  I promise that is the car I've intended for this series the entire time.

No problem, it is one of those rare mistake, happens to the best of us.

Strange, I found that the '72 is a much "tighter" car to drive than the '73, more planted and not as floaty.  It seems to me that PD has completely remodeled the car for the GT6 release.  When I checked various sources (e.g. wiki), I also found that the '72 has the closest top speed to the real car (top out at ~ 120mph), which was the reason that I mentioned I would be in a heap of trouble in Nurbringring Nordschleife or other high speed tracks.  The '73 Alpine should address this issue, just not sure if I can control the new beast since I have not practiced with the different model year.     :-\
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 14, 2014, 09:09:03 AM
Thanks for the heads up dlrws6!  Will do.

Numb, that's an interesting point.  I felt the same way when driving them back to back.  Unfortunately, I used the 1973 model (and the Europa) as the benchmark for which to equalize the other cars.  So if, for instance, I had said that I would just switch to the '72 it would probably be a bit unfair to the rest  :P  Also the '73's transmission will be better for a bunch of the tracks we'll encounter.

Shame though, that the '73 is a standard, not detailed car.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on May 14, 2014, 11:37:16 AM
Shame though, that the '73 is a standard, not detailed car.

Indeed.  The interior of the '72 Alpine is beautiful.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: dlrws6 on May 14, 2014, 09:22:02 PM
I am officially withdrawing from the series.

Tonight was the straw that broke the camels back. I'm sick of these bug riddled, broken games.  I am at a loss as to why I continue to come home from an exhausting day or work only to get even more frustrated by a game that freezes, crashes and in general does not work the way it should.

Well this is long over due, as it should have happened at the release of GTsux. As of tonight I am through with Gran Turismo. There are far superior, and better functioning games I can spend my time on.

PD gets no more of my money.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 15, 2014, 08:33:57 AM
Sorry to hear that buddy, but I understand  :(
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on May 15, 2014, 10:59:08 AM
Hi Wolf, you have me down for 50kg +25kg = 75kg, but that was my first podium.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 15, 2014, 11:54:32 AM
Apologies, I don't know why I keep confusing the two of you! :drunk

That being said, job well done to the podium finishers, Feldynn especially!  After the first and second lap shenanigans you were untouchable up there and showed everyone your tail lights!

BTW next week's race in Monaco just happens to coincide with the F1 Gran Prix of Monaco as well.  Coincidence??  ;)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on May 16, 2014, 01:24:11 PM
Hi dawson,

I probably got mixed up with another event that has ballast penalty.... Will finisher below 3rd get to drop ballast that was gained in earlier race(s)?

A suggestion to post #3:  Other than ballast gained due to the most recent race result, perhaps it will be useful to provide accumulative ballast information for any racers needing to keep the ballast on their cars for the next race?  (e.g. Adding the ballast information for Badaboya and me as well that we have gathered from race #1.)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 20, 2014, 07:32:22 AM
Glad you asked Numb and the answer is yes.

4th place - drop 25 kg
5th place - drop 50 kg
6th place - drop 75 kg
7th place - drop 100 kg

and so forth.  I'm sorry I wasn't more transparent about that (same system I used for my last series).

As it were the only people with ballast right now are those listed.  Numb, you had 50 kg but then finished 5th in race 2, so you subtract 50 kg and now have 0.  Bada had 25 kg from race 1 but finished 4th in race 2, thus subtracting 25 kg and back to 0.

 :)

BTW, Race 3 length is 30 laps.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 22, 2014, 08:00:09 AM
Awesome driving guys!  There was a lot of super close racing last night and I'm pretty sure that (almost) everyone had a great time!

I'm kicking myself in the ass for misjudging the timing lights at the beginning and getting ANOTHER 5 second penalty, negating any effort put forth in qualifying  :(  Still, it was fun playing catch up the whole time.

Very nice win Numbskuld!
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on May 22, 2014, 08:54:27 AM
Thanks dawson and everyone.  It was definitely one of the races that exhausted me because of the concentration required.  As it was mentioned during post race, you have to admire any real world racing driver going full tilt at Cote D'Azur at much higher speed than we achieved last night.

I just remembered that my avatar in GT6 was wearing the Senna racing outfit.  That in itself gave me the 1/100 sec improvement.  :D
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on May 22, 2014, 09:44:04 AM
I had a ball myself :), that extra 75kg success ballast from Madrid made the car almost comical to drive because it would lean and sway so much haha (the car weighed about 745kg stock so you could really feel it), also some great close racing with both Pete and Dawson at different points during the race too. 

Ironically the two "major" incidents I had were both at that stupid waterfront chicane after the tunnel, first one I seemed to get snagged by an invisible wall spike and Pete had nowhere to go or time to react as it stopped me dead in front him (sorry Pete!) and the second one I out braked myself and stopped to avoid cutting the chicane too bad and let Dawnson by.  Unfortunately it looked like Dawnson caught the same invisible spike I had earlier, hopefully that wasn't my fault for poking out of the chicane or anything?  Still he had some good battling though :).

Thanks Dawson for the hosting and everyone for the racing :).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 22, 2014, 09:54:05 AM
Yeah all good Feldynn, you didn't have any impact with me at that chicane.  As to your first "mishap" when you oversteered too much by the water front, I came flying around the turn seeing lots of smoke from you, and a big Dino in my face fishtailing a bit.  I tried to avoid Pete but I tapped him in the rear which was enough to send him into the wall at a 90° angle.  I waited around for him to recover b/c I felt responsible for making his spin considerably worse.

OKAY, INFORMAL POLL TIME:  What do you want to do for race #4?
1) Monza - everything else the same
2) La Sarthe - all cars using customized transmissions  set to 155 mph (and no individual gear tinkering allowed, just the top speed slider).

Please let me know!  Decision will be made by 5/28, so that everyone still has a week to prep for the chosen track.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on May 22, 2014, 12:04:31 PM
Oh yeah I forgot about that, I guess that was mishap number 3 then.. or technically number 2 since it was after the wall bit me and before the missed braking chicane one lol.  I gunned it a bit early and lit up one of the rear tires due to the car not having an LSD, that made for a lot of smoke / noise and lack of speed exiting the chicane due to a bit of fishtailing which meant Pete had to jam on brakes and you guys came together :(.  In retrospect should I have waited up there too since technically I caused the whole thing?

Regarding the tracks my vote goes for La Sarthe with the 155mph fixed transmission, though either one would be great :).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 22, 2014, 12:18:16 PM
Honestly in a case such as that I dunno.  But I was a bit peeved at the time.  Still doesn't mean you should wait though  (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on May 22, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
At the chicane Feldynn, no big deal, just a racing incident, I've caught that corner enough times myself.
Gong into the tunnel, I saw smoke and Feldynn loose, so I lifted, cant remember if I hit the brake, but it was my fault I lost it, so you didn't have to wait for me Wolf, you were catching me pretty fast so I wouldn't have held you up that or the next lap.
All good fun and clean racing.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 22, 2014, 01:22:24 PM
REPOST for page 4

OKAY, INFORMAL POLL TIME:  What do you want to do for race #4?
1) Monza - everything else the same
2) La Sarthe - all cars using customized transmissions  set to 155 mph (and no individual gear tinkering allowed, just the top speed slider).

Please let me know!  Decision will be made by 5/28, so that everyone still has a week to prep for the chosen track.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on May 22, 2014, 06:28:55 PM
my vote goes for La Sarthe
I hope to learn how to drive this SOB, it's driving me up the wall with me driving it up the wall  (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on May 22, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
my vote goes for La Sarthe
I hope to learn how to drive this SOB, it's driving me up the wall with me driving it up the wall  (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

One of the best lines I've heard in a while.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 23, 2014, 07:37:01 AM
my vote goes for La Sarthe
I hope to learn how to drive this SOB, it's driving me up the wall with me driving it up into the wall 

fixed it!  :D
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on May 24, 2014, 11:55:57 AM

OKAY, INFORMAL POLL TIME:  What do you want to do for race #4?
1) Monza - everything else the same
2) La Sarthe - all cars using customized transmissions  set to 155 mph (and no individual gear tinkering allowed, just the top speed slider).

Please let me know!  Decision will be made by 5/28, so that everyone still has a week to prep for the chosen track.

I vote for La Sarthe with the 2013 configuration, which is a bit more forgiving.  :)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 28, 2014, 11:09:33 AM
Alright fellas, you have spoken! (well some of you).  Race #4 will be at La Sarthe, with 155 mph speed set transmissions.

Lap count to follow  :D
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on May 29, 2014, 05:27:32 PM
just to clarify on the tranny, while i didn't check the fixed one.. the full custom for the Europa is set stock at 149
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 02, 2014, 06:54:08 AM
Yeah that's cool.  I'm saying to adjust the slider so it is 155 :)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 03, 2014, 11:50:54 AM
Lap count for tomorrow night is TEN LAPS.

Best time I could muster last night was a 5:17, but I would say that 5:10 or less is easy to accomplish on a light fuel load, especially if any drafting is involved.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on June 03, 2014, 01:35:28 PM
Lap count for tomorrow night is TEN LAPS.

Best time I could muster last night was a 5:17, but I would say that 5:10 or less is easy to accomplish on a light fuel load, especially if any drafting is involved.

Hi Dawson,

Which version of the track will we be running tomorrow?
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 04, 2014, 06:13:03 AM
The latest version, 2013 (I believe).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 10, 2014, 06:49:48 AM
Series standings updated on page 1.

See everyone at Brands Hatch tomorrow night!

(lap count to be posted this evening)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on June 11, 2014, 11:44:29 PM
well done Pete and thanks Dawson and everyone. I had a good race (relatively speaking of course) had a few spins but the car felt better here than anywhere else so far
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 12, 2014, 07:46:59 AM
Thanks nosoks.

Yeah, you'll probably have the car all properly sorted for the series finale!  (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

Was a good race last night for most.  Some tight driving and fast times.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on June 12, 2014, 09:16:02 AM
Aside from a major off on the first lap and a couple of minor sandpit excursions I had a blast!  Even with the extra weight the Alfa felt pretty good there and had some decent straight line speed, I've always liked the flow of Brands Hatch too so that probably helped :).

Congrats to the podium placers!
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 12, 2014, 01:23:09 PM
standings updated!
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 17, 2014, 07:40:17 AM
***NOTICE***

Qualifying for tomorrow's race will be 20 minutes long, so that everyone can get in 2 clean (well, hopefully clean, haha) laps.  That means you need to be present in the room by 9:10 otherwise you risk being locked out of the race.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: badaboya1 on June 18, 2014, 12:19:58 PM
***NOTICE***

Qualifying for tomorrow's race will be 20 minutes long, so that everyone can get in 2 clean (well, hopefully clean, haha) laps.  That means you need to be present in the room by 9:10 otherwise you risk being locked out of the race.

UPDATE ALERT!
Mine took 35 min. to download and install.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 19, 2014, 06:57:45 AM
Thanks for that info badaboya.


Alright, I gave it a bunch of thinking last night, after the "disco disaster".  First off, this race will be rescheduled, as the finale to the series.  Assuming that server stability is restored soon then Race #7, Rome, will take place at it's normally scheduled time and date, 6/25.  And then Nurburgring will be 7/2.  If the network is still all messed up next week then both races will be bumped back a week.  HOWEVER, if there are scheduling conflicts for anyone please let me know and we can find a solution there.

For Race #7, Rome, please leave all penalty ballast amounts the same, as they were last night - no adjustments.

Finally, the matter of points.  With a disconnect there really isn't a way to be 100% fair to all but I hope my decision jives with everyone.  I'm awarding nosoks and TunaPhreak each 30 points.  nosoks was having a brilliant drive and looked to be headed towards a decisive win.  And TunaPhreak was the only person not disconnected, so in a way he won the war of attrition there and technically "won" as well.  So that is why they are getting points.  Neither is being awarded first place (50) points though, as the race was incomplete. 

So there you have it!
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: MasterGT on June 19, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
I have brought this recent spate of disconnections to PDI's attention and that usually spurs them to doing something about them.

We will see.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: DudeTuna on June 19, 2014, 02:04:07 PM
I have brought this recent spate of disconnections to PDI's attention and that usually spurs them to doing something about them.

We will see.

Thanks MGT.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: nosoks on June 19, 2014, 03:42:58 PM
 :stoopid: Thanks for you efforts Mgt
also thx for points Dawson, look forward to getting a complete race in

Edit for rule #1 violation
I just noticed we're going round Rome reversewise, been practicing the normal way, oh well, some people are wise, some are "otherwise"
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 24, 2014, 10:23:09 PM
Lap count will be 37 tonight.

Also, in an effort to make the Dino's more competitive they can add back 15 hp (155 total hp).
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: PeyePete on June 25, 2014, 07:36:52 AM
Lap count will be 37 tonight.

Also, in an effort to make the Dino's more competitive they can add back 10 hp (150 total hp).

Wolf, is it 10hp or 15hp, as indicated at the PS Forum.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 25, 2014, 11:54:40 AM
15, my apologies.  I'll edit that.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on June 26, 2014, 07:26:02 AM
Another solid race everyone!  Well, everyone except Numbskuld I suppose.  Sorry buddy  :P

It speaks volumes to the quality of racers we have here that there were very few car on car incidents at this track.  The carnage at the kink that claimed almost everyone was very well done in that the unfortunate individual was able to keep the track clear for other traffic.

Feldynn, Peyepete and Phreak, you guys were faaaaast.  At times some of you were behind me and it was all I could to (briefly) stay ahead, haha.  I had a lot of fun dicing it up with some extremely tight running and passing with Feldynn, Pete MastrGT and badaboya1.  Bada, I appreciated you letting me by after I ran into you (after you skidded sideways).  My heart was definitely pumping towards the end when positions seemed locked it - I kept telling myself don't fall victim to the kink now!   (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

It looks like this series is going to come down to the wire.  Many of us are in control of our own destiny here.  Current points standings have been posted on the first page.  However, I've already done some number crunching to show what the current standings look like after dropping everyone's worst finish (from the races we've already completed).  Here is that list:

Wolfpack987 - 222
Numbskuld   - 222
Feldynn        - 220
peyepete      - 219
badaboya1   - 216
nosoks        - 181
TunaPhreak  - 176
dmcallis        - 142
MastrGT       - 137
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wiz on June 26, 2014, 07:59:25 AM
With one race to go in a series, that has to be the tightest top 5 I've ever seen.

Well done guys.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on July 01, 2014, 08:23:48 AM
Has anyone been suffering from network instability?  IF so please let me know.  Don't want to push back this race any further but we really don't want another disco fiasco.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on July 01, 2014, 10:52:23 AM
Seemed ok last week, I think ToC went by without any network issues on Thursday though I think we did have one disco during Baked's CiaY race on Friday evening (one person dropped, not an entire room collapse).

Also, sorry I couldn't help myself ;D..
.. disco fiasco.

This is Disco Fiasco..

Disco Fiasco- Headlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF6IHwyz2SY#ws)


this is a disco fiasco (though sadly I quite like it  :lolz)..

KISS - I Was Made For Lovin' You [Official Music Video] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7isxoTIeYM#)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on July 01, 2014, 12:54:43 PM
there goes the neighborhood...again :lolz
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: MasterGT on July 03, 2014, 03:09:14 PM
I came >< that close to running out of fuel. ^-^

Good racing, though. I tried my best.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on July 05, 2014, 07:08:20 PM
I came >< that close to running out of fuel. ^-^

Good racing, though. I tried my best.

I watched the replay....you were running on fumes at the end of lap 4. Close one.

Glad that we did not have any disconnection during the race...and the only disco we had was during early qualifying.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on July 07, 2014, 08:58:55 AM
I don't know about the rest of you but the last race at Nordshleife was the most fun I had all series.  Close racing, lots of passing...white knuckled to the end!


AND YOUR WINNER IS.....NUMBSKULD!

FINAL SERIES RESULTS
1 - NumbSkuld - 272 points
2 - badaboya1  - 265
2 - Wolfpack987 - 265
4 - Feldynn        - 257
5 - peyepete     - 256
6 - TunaPhreak - 216
7 - nosoks       - 212
8 - MastrGT     - 174
9 - dmcallis      - 152

Well done to Numb, bada and myself for making the podium.  What a close finish at the top  :-X  I want to thank everyone again for making this series possible and while there were some struggles I hope everyone still had a great time!

And as always, stay Tuna'd for the next great series... ;D
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: NumbSkuld on July 07, 2014, 10:35:04 AM
Dawson, thank you once again for organizing the Classic European Sports Car Tour of Europe event...especially at a time that I was about to spend significantly less time on GT6.  It was a pleasant surprise to win the overall event (even more surprising that the 2 race wins were from Cote d'Azur and Nordschleife), especially with so many great drivers.  Thanks everyone for the exciting races and good "ding-dong" battles.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Feldynn on July 07, 2014, 10:38:37 AM
And thank you very much for running it Wolfpack!  

It really came down to the wire for that last race and what a race it was too!  The first 3 laps or so were probably the most exciting for us towards the rear of the field, I say "rear" but that doesn't quite do it justice as I believe we had a 5 way battle for 4th place!  Some great side by side racing, passing and re-passing, I haven't looked back over the replay but I particularly remember a section where Bada and I were door to door through some particularly tricky sections.  

We gave each other room to race but didn't give an inch of track position it seemed like, how we didn't rub doors even once I don't know but it was a lot of fun!  Heck I had a blast the whole season, thanks again Wolfpack / Dawson for hosting and thanks everyone for making it some great racing! :)
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: MasterGT on July 18, 2014, 02:04:04 PM
This was an interesting series, Wolfpack987! Thanks for hosting it. There was lots of good racing, too.

The BMW was an underperformer on the long straights, but I tried to make the best of it as I could, once I figured out how to control it.
Title: Re: Classic European Sports Cars Series Official Race Thread - Starts May 7th @ 930
Post by: Wolfpack987 on July 28, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
Thanks again guys!

Another series on the way shortly  ;)