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• American Classic TRANS-AM: October 12, 2012

[GrumpyTuna]

 Would truly appreciate that Revengel!

[Wolfpack987]

I'm going to have to do some cipherin' when I get home.  My car feels strong, handles well, pulls hard coming out of the turns, and hits 193-194 at the start/finish, but I'm not seeing 40s.  I ran either a 41.7 or a 42.7 last night (can't remember which) and that was with 10 laps under my belt.  Can't think of any place where I can pick up a second or two.

Fortunately, I look amazing in the Corvette.   

LOL, okay I feel a bit like a horse's ass.  Sorry for causing some alarm confusion in the last few posts.  When I stated times in the 1:40s I didn't mean 1:40.xxx's.  I meant 1:4x's.  In fact I did look up the times I had written down last night and they varied from 1:44 - 1:47.  This is for the eligible cars with almost no tuning done (other than good transmission gearing).  So you guys can relax about your times!  Sounds like you're all doing well so far.

As to Revengel's Corvair request, I'll see what I can do 

[GrumpyTuna]

 Now i don't feel to slow WolfpackS2k.


 P.S. Revengel you missed something last night! I still need help!

[Grilled Tuna]

dam 2 months away...gonna need a reminder i don't usually remember much past 3-4days

[Revengel]

 Now i don't feel to slow WolfpackS2k.


 P.S. Revengel you missed something last night! I still need help!

My thuderous bad...Wee Baby Sheamus (who I think will be my pit chief) was in need most of the evening.  That said here's what I recall from my setup on Race Hards - I did run some Race Mediums and...maybe it was the lateness of the hour...but I was only able to get down to a 1:44.023 for whatever reason.  Actually I think I know.  But I digress...

Camber:  1.9 - 1.3.
Toe:  Zeroes.
Ht: -10 front, -12 Rear.  This is a plan for the infield.
Spring:  13.0 Front, 10.5 (iirc) rear.  Have to update that tonight.
Dampers:  8/8, 7/7
Anti-Roll - 4/4

Aero - Max in front, 45 in rear.  I'll likely adjust that tonight as well.

Tranny - Tricked then set fina gear to 230 (for draft) or 215-220 for solo driving.


My est times are around 4:45.1x in Race Hards and I'm getting 18-20 laps out of them.


Hope that helps!

[GrumpyTuna]

dam 2 months away...gonna need a reminder i don't usually remember much past 3-4days

 That's what happens when you start getting old Grilled!



 P.S. Thanks for the tuna Revengel!

[Grilled Tuna]

 

[Revengel]

Hey - just did some tuning & running (wee baby Sheamus was up for a while!)

Here's what I have for my tune.  This is for a broken in '69 RM.

Suspension:
Ride Ht:  -9 / -10
Spring: 12.1 / 10.6
Dampers: 6 all the way around.
Anti Roll:  4 all the way around.
Camber: 1.9 / 1.3
Toe: Zilch.

Tranny tricked to 221

LSD:  My standard 12/23/12

Aero:  20/50 (will likely take some of that off)

Actual time:  1:44.238

Not impressive at all...but then again I'm not hitting 190 on the straights like the others are.

My brake balance was 4/7 but now it's 5/5 and I've got pretty even tire wear.



Hope that helps!

[DudeTuna]

I'm close with a 1'45 flat using this tune from GTData. The car is still breaking in and my gears might need more gearing. I'm seeing 183.

[GrumpyTuna]

Hey - just did some tuning & running (wee baby Sheamus was up for a while!)

Here's what I have for my tune.  This is for a broken in '69 RM.

Suspension:
Ride Ht:  -9 / -10
Spring: 12.1 / 10.6
Dampers: 6 all the way around.
Anti Roll:  4 all the way around.
Camber: 1.9 / 1.3
Toe: Zilch.


 Will try the new update out! Thanks again for the help Revengel!


 P.S. Ran a high 43 with the other tune!

Tranny tricked to 221

LSD:  My standard 12/23/12

Aero:  20/50 (will likely take some of that off)

Actual time:  1:44.238

Not impressive at all...but then again I'm not hitting 190 on the straights like the others are.

My brake balance was 4/7 but now it's 5/5 and I've got pretty even tire wear.



Hope that helps!

[Wolfpack987]

OP has been updated 

[RickS95]

 Now i don't feel to slow WolfpackS2k.


 P.S. Revengel you missed something last night! I still need help!

My thuderous bad...Wee Baby Sheamus (who I think will be my pit chief) was in need most of the evening.  That said here's what I recall from my setup on Race Hards - I did run some Race Mediums and...maybe it was the lateness of the hour...but I was only able to get down to a 1:44.023 for whatever reason.  Actually I think I know.  But I digress...

Camber:  1.9 - 1.3.
Toe:  Zeroes.
Ht: -10 front, -12 Rear.  This is a plan for the infield.
Spring:  13.0 Front, 10.5 (iirc) rear.  Have to update that tonight.
Dampers:  8/8, 7/7
Anti-Roll - 4/4

Aero - Max in front, 45 in rear.  I'll likely adjust that tonight as well.

Tranny - Tricked then set fina gear to 230 (for draft) or 215-220 for solo driving.


My est times are around 4:45.1x in Race Hards and I'm getting 18-20 laps out of them.


Hope that helps!

I see why guys are switching to iRacing.  Last week I did a little testing and ran however many laps with no tire wear.  Just wanted to get a good idea of what lap times I could expect.  At the time I was seeing high 42s.  Tonight I thought I'd run a few more laps, this time with tire wear on to see what lap times I could expect and how many laps I could get out of a set of tires.

I'm almost two full seconds a lap slower and I doubt I can get 10 laps out of the tires. 

As good as we think this game is, there's simply nothing realistic about it.  I think Gar has the right idea by running his series with tire wear turned off.  During a race it's literally impossible to run a full lap with tires at their optimum because at the start of the race you run the first lap from a stand still and by the time you're ready for your second lap, the tires are already showing wear.  Make a pit stop and you can't count the lap you pitted on because you have to slow down to make the pits and then then next lap is killed due to time in the pits and by the time you're ready for a full lap, your tires are showing wear again.

What a joke.   

[Wolfpack987]

I understand you pain a bit, and I think the tire wear is accelerated to force pit stops on shorter races that usually wouldn't require such a thing (in real life).  However it can be particularly annoying on some tracks, especially long ones like Green Hell or La Sarthe.

I haven't done any longevity testing here yet but in the past I have been able to get 17 laps out of race medium tires in a modified Viper ACR.  Not an apples to apples comparison but similar weight and horsepower to what we've got here.

[Revengel]

So I guess it begs to question:

Will tire wear be on or off for this?  While I love the idea of pit stops (and heck, heavy damage) I understand RickS95's point.

[RickS95]

So I guess it begs to question:

Will tire wear be on or off for this?  While I love the idea of pit stops (and heck, heavy damage) I understand RickS95's point.

Don't change the rules for me.  That said, heavy damage would cause realistic pit stops.  Also, I haven't checked fuel usage (because I was so pissed about the tire wear), but that would be another cause for pit stops.  Some months ago Hey, Spec and I ran an enduro at DRC.  Each race was something like 90 minutes long.  Spec ran out of fuel twice, so it can be an issue. 

In a nutshell, I've always been hard on the tires.  But last night I was intentionally trying to save the tires and crashed on the 5th lap because the rears couldn't handle the power.