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Online Events => Other Online Events => Topic started by: LastLeafFan on February 02, 2012, 02:29:22 PM
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Hi guys,
I have been tinkering with the idea of a setting up a new series with mixed classes. I was looking at the following list of cars.
Can anyone see if any may be a lot better than others with these HP's. Also the weight is stock.
I'm looking for good close racing. Any input would be appreciated as well as any interest.
I'm looking at Wednesday night around 9:30 - 10:00 EST
DTM
Audi Abt TT 2002.................483HP
Audi A4 2004.......................493HP
Opel/Vauxhall Astra 2000.......493HP
Mercedes CLK 2000..............463HP
JGTC
Premium
Nissan GTR..................473HP
Nissan GTR Stealth........463HP
Honda NSX..................473HP
Lexus SC.....................473HP
Standard
Nissan GTR 2003...........473HP
Nissan GTR 1999-2000....493HP
Nomad Diablo GT-1........493HP
Honda NSX..................473HP
Premium/Standard
Toyota Supra...............473HP
Nissan Nismo Z.............463HP
GRAND-AM
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Corvette C5-R..............473HP
Camaro LM...................483HP
Mazda RX-8 .................483HP
BMW M3......................483HP
Audi R8 LMS (Team Playstation)......483HP
Premium
New Camaro RM..................493HP
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what I like about this idea is that you are customizing the hp restrictions for each car. the PP system and merely relying on a car's stock/default hp isn't usually enough to actually make them equal.
out in the wild, I wouldn't trust people to stick to the regs, but here in tuna-ville it shouldn't be a problem.
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I would be interested in this, however I currently run the Japanese 90s Sports car event every other Wednesday around 9.
If your race was to start around 10-10:15 I could make both though ;D
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I was thinking either alternating Wednesdays with yours or going with the later time every week. Either way I'm leaning to a later time to help the west coast as well as east coast with kids.
I would like the race to be over by 11 EST though.
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I was also hoping that I could recruit a few people to test some cars.
I'm thinking racing hards on maybe nurberger GP/D with the HP's above, stock weight.
If there are any other cars that I don't have which would be competitive please let me know.
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Sounds like a great idea LLF! I'd definitely be interested in running and should be able to do Wednesdays.
I don't mind helping with testing some too, though after my pisspoor performance in the Roadster TC Series race at the Zoidbergring GP/D track I'd personally prefer somewhere else but I can certainly try where ever you want. So long as I'm at least consistent with testing the cars it shouldn't matter if I'm consistently bad ;D.
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Absolutely, that would be a great help.
Maybe just let me know which cars you'd like to try.
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DTM
Mercedes CLK 2000..............463HP-----this car might still kick ass due to downforce, definitely needs testing
JGTC
Premium
Honda NSX..................473HP------I hear there is one NSX that kicks ass for an unspecified reason. The Raybrig maybe.
Premium/Standard
Toyota Supra...............473HP ----the premium Supra '97 has exrta downforce but its engine feels weak, so it may even out)
GRAND-AM
Standard
Mazda RX-8 .................483HP -------I can't see this competing, mostly due to downforce
BMW M3......................483HP -------I can't see this competing, due to downforce and engine
Audi R8 LMS (Team Playstation)......483HP ------ I drove this once or twice and parked it. I forget why. I should try it again some day.
Premium
New Camaro RM..................493HP -------I can't see this competing, mostly due to downforce
There are two Dodge Viper race cars that should fit in. Probably Grand Am. It has a lot of power, but so do the two Chevs.
You may have omitted them on purpose, but do these fit anywhere?
IS-F racing concept (P)
Pagani Zonda LM (S)
Lister Storm (S)
Ford Falcon (S)
Jaguar XJ220 (S)
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I have actually been working on something similar to this just for my own enjoyment. taking premium GT cars, adding full aero kits, and seeing what cars will run together with the power at 600bhp or less and 1360kg or more, i have a decent list going (@ work so its not on me at the moment). i would definitely be interested as long as: a) the racing is over by around 10:30p est, and b) It doesn't conflict with any other series. Even if i can't run the event i am more than happy to be a part of a testing crew!
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Wow, thanks Turbo. Just what I needed.
I tested the Merc. CLK, An NSX, Supra and the M3. I think the 1rd 3 would be close but Turbo you're right the M3 was way off. I think I will eliminate that one.
I will try to look at your other suggestions but right now I don't know which ones I have.
This could be fun.
Thanks in advance for the help guys.
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The '03 Takata NSX is the one that is a bit better than the other NSX's.
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I should be able to help evaluate some of these cars over the weekend (if they're not already all taken care of!).
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EDIT for better wording:
for testing, I would recommend everyone use the same agreed upon track, and all test identical cars. that way, you could post findings and it would be apples to apples comparison.
remember there is always the possibility that one car will be faster in the hands of only one racer in particular, because they understand how to alter their driving style to match it's characteristics, or because it happens to suit their driving style.
if say, the CLK is still much faster for one person, that may be that it will be their car of choice and not necessarily unfair for them to use. If it is still faster for everyone testing, then limit it further until it is relatively equal for all testers.
my .02
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To keep things comparable should all testing be down with default settings?
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That's what I've been doing. Just getting the HP's to where they are listed and running racing hards.
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Just FYI...
When I test cars for my series, they are ALL on the same default suspension, not PD's, but my defaults and I will test them on 3 different style tracks, fast, tight and bumpy/undulated . I will only play with hp and weight to get in the ballpark.
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Just FYI...
When I test cars for my series, they are ALL on the same default suspension, not PD's, but my defaults and I will test them on 3 different style tracks, fast, tight and bumpy/undulated . I will only play with hp and weight to get in the ballpark.
God I wish I had the time to test cars/setups that some of you seem to :P
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Just FYI...
When I test cars for my series, they are ALL on the same default suspension, not PD's, but my defaults and I will test them on 3 different style tracks, fast, tight and bumpy/undulated . I will only play with hp and weight to get in the ballpark.
Thanks Brindle,
I will try that technique as well. This may take some time to put together.
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I'll see what I can do to assist. :)
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God I wish I had the time to test cars/setups that some of you seem to :P
:stoopid:
or even just the racing part. :P
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Audi R8 LMS (Team Playstation)......483HP ------ I drove this once or twice and parked it. I forget why. I should try it again some day.
What about the other R8 LMS, with no team name? It would appear to be identical. Also, is that hp listed the restricted hp? Because bone stock that car has 538 hp.
I guess these hp ratings are restricted. How did you come to the conclusion for each car? Or is some of this arbitrary?
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As a sort of initial "quick test" I ran a few cars around Cape Ring South last night to see if there were any obvious anomalies. I used the following cars..
Audi Abt TT 2002.................483HP
Audi A4 2004.......................493HP
Opel/Vauxhall Astra 2000.......493HP
Mercedes CLK 2000..............463HP
Toyota au Cerumo Supra.......473HP
Honda Loctite NSX...............473HP
Nissan Calsonic Skyline..........493HP
.. using mostly all PD's default settings, downforce set to no more than 30 Front / 50 Rear and Transmission speed set around 190, I ran about 5 laps with each car per pass in practice mode to get some rough lap times. Bear in mind I didn't actually tune anything specifically for the track or for my own preferences, it was just a quick test to see if any were obviously faster / slower out of the box.
Mostly with my driving I managed to run low 1'12 laps with all cars at the listed HP (+/- a little for the occasional really good lap) with the exception of the Vauxhall Astra, that seemed significantly faster than the others at 493HP so I tested it again at 463HP and that seemed to bring it more in line with the rest.
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Thanks guys,
That's exactly what we need. I hope to try a few more out tomorrow.
As far as what i have here I must admit I borrowed the specs from GTP. I just wanted to try to fine tune everything and come up with some close racing with multiple cars types. I was even thinking of doing 2 weeks of DTM's and 2 weeks of GT500's then the last 2 weeks with something with more power and maybe even an oval mixed in.
Although I like lower HP cars, every now and then I like to bring out the big dogs.
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I set aside some time Sunday to test out a few cars but didn't get too far. I tested the CLK DTM and Oreca Viper around Nurburgring GP/D (Viper was just 1/2 second or so behind) but I ran into network problems (several discos) so I said F*CK it and shut off the system for the day.
So I'm afraid that info won't be of much use. :-\
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I would hold off for now guys. I'm going to wait and see if the bug is any better.
I want to thank everyone thus far for all of their help, I will update in a week or so.