SupaTunaGT
Online Events => Other Online Events => Topic started by: DudeTuna on June 05, 2011, 11:19:13 AM
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I'm on track now at Cote d' Azur trying to find time. :)
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If ya don't want to practice under mix conditions, MLR_Carts and I will likely be spending quite a bit of time in my lounge working out kinks in our 500 cars through out the week. So, if you see me and a couple MLR guys in my lounge, that'll be what we're up to.
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I wish I was practicing right now, but I'm at work. I want to try and get on later tonight after work. I've got to find at least 2 seconds. :copz:
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2 seconds? :o Who the fuck is running 27's?
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I'm on my way in right now for todays session, I have to find out where ten laps of tires are hiding....:(
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2 seconds? :o Who the fuck is running 27's?
27s??? I thought every one was in the 23s...
just kidding :lolz
I'd never be that fortunate, lucky, skilled, or what ever.
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2 seconds? :o Who the fuck is running 27's?
27s??? I thought every one was in the 23s...
just kidding (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
I'd never be that fortunate, lucky, skilled, or what ever.
Well, What are you running?
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hey Ronin, do me a favor and send me a fr req. to War_Hound1970 so I can join in tonight.
No Hockey, no soccer, damn I might actually get to race tonight.... or someone might die......
I would be running GT500 cars.
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2 seconds? :o Who the fuck is running 27's?
27s??? I thought every one was in the 23s...
just kidding (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
I'd never be that fortunate, lucky, skilled, or what ever.
Well, What are you running?
Long story short, 32s. I know that's 3 seconds off of the 29s many have seen but I can deal with a 1 second gap in the race. 3 seconds is almost guaranteed back of the pack in my opinion.
I think tonight I've got to figure out if its just me or the car. I'll try testing one of the NSXs or GTRs and see what I get. If its the car there may be little that I can do, a good tune can not always cure a slow car. Although it can help. If its me, I just need to run a few hundred laps and get myself back up to speed.
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I'm running 32's and 33 in a GTR so....
But anywho keep in mind these 29's and 30's are being run in free run, race conditions are not going to be close to that. Stop by and we can run our 33's together, lol.
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Hey Brindle, are there any plans to handicap the faster cars in order to keep the racing closer? I know it's early in the season, just curious if you had thought about do it.
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Hey Brindle, are there any plans to handicap the faster cars in order to keep the racing closer? I know it's early in the season, just curious if you had thought about do it.
Had, but too much testing is needed. So far, my best guess is all MR cars must run about .10 higher power/weight ratio than all the others.
I don't really think I am going to do anything about it. I'll get those NSX's. ;)
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I may be able to fix the 300 group. The NSX's I don't think I can without owning every single one.
I'm going to do a test run and compare the drink to the mr-s. I will let you know.
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I'm going to need some lap times from the 300 group. My results show the MR-S to be faster only on certain tracks. Here is my results with both cars completely stock minus trans adjust for top end and addition of turbo's...
Monza
MR-S @ 338 = 1'41.715
MR-S @ 348 = 1'42.438
Drink @ 338 = 1'43.017
Cote
MR-S @ 338 = 1'34.908
MR-S @ 348 = 1'35.897
Drink @ 338 = 1'35.015
As you can see, at this track they are equal. Of course thats me racing both. You each can only drive one, so you can see why I need lap times. I have info from the Monza replay and can compare to your current times at Cote.
Thanks
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Judging by those times for Cote I don't stand a chance lol, best I could get out of my POS Subaru was a 1'36.6xx and average was mid 1'37s.
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Judging by those times for Cote I don't stand a chance lol, best I could get out of my POS Subaru was a 1'36.6xx and average was mid 1'37s.
Don't sweat it, that's about where I'm at, and I'm sure we'll have company. :)
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Judging by those times for Cote I don't stand a chance lol, best I could get out of my POS Subaru was a 1'36.6xx and average was mid 1'37s.
Don't sweat it, that's about where I'm at, and I'm sure we'll have company. :)
Well, hello there. ;D
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No changes will be made for the MR-S. It has some more top end than the drink, but the two are very close on handling. Upped the aero changed the LSD and got down to a 33.7 in the drink. To be honest, I think the drink is faster at this track.
Don't forget you are allowed any turbo's/engine mods and power limiter to meet specs. I will tell you that the 500 cars are running full turbo/engine mod (about 675hp) and dial it back to 532 or less. Helps a bunch.
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1'33.7 :o glad he's in a 500, no way I'll match that in any 300 car
I rarely do the permanent engine mods, especially to race cars. I like being able to return them to stock. I'll definitely experiment with turbos though
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Good point, I'll have to try the different turbos. I tried all 3 versions at Monza and found no difference in my lap times. But this week is a completely different track and any possible changes it torque could make a difference.
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Good point, I'll have to try the different turbos. I tried all 3 versions at Monza and found no difference in my lap times. But this week is a completely different track and any possible changes it torque could make a difference.
I had the very same issue when I put the turbos onto mine, My lap times just did not improve.
The Monza race I made the mistake of adding weight and power for higher top speed, sadly the two MPH on the frontstreach did not counter the expidited tire ware and fuel consumption. I seriously ran a 45 lap stint during practice at Monza on one set of Soft tires and only pitted in due to empty fuel tank. I only dropped a second in lap times from start to pit during that session, imagine how pissed I was when after twenty laps my lap times where getting slow due to tha last minuet change I made for two MPH.....Just to throw it out there for ya.
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Some food for thought regarding adding Turbos and permanent engine mods.
I bought the '06 drink, brand new, and here's some numbers that may interest you.
After oil change
hp 327
Tq 246
Added Mid RPM Turbo only - Used power limiter to bring back to "Oil change hp level (327)"
hp 327
Tq 282
Changed to High RPM Turbo only - Used power limiter to bring back to "Oil change hp level (327)"
hp 327
Tq 282
Then added Stage 3 Enging Mod only (Took off the Turbo) - Used power limiter to bring back to "Oil change hp level (327)"
hp 327
Tq 275
Then did Stage 3 Engine Mod with Mid RPM Turbo - Used power limiter to bring back to "Oil change hp level (327)"
hp 327
Tq 317***
Then did Stage 3 Engine Mod with High RPM Turbo - Used power limiter to bring back to "Oil change hp level (327)"
hp 327
Tq 301
***As you can see, adding the Stage 3 Engine Mod nets you up to 35 more ft/lbs of torque when used in conjunction with the Mid RPM Turbo, with this car as opposed to just using a turbo only.
In other words, with the horsepower being constant at 327...
Turbo only - Max torque is 282
Add Stage 3 Mod - Max torque is 317
I'm quite confident that all the other cars for both the 300 & 500 class will benefit in the same way. Other cars may have more torque if used with the High RPM Turbo, I'm not sure. May depend on the track too as far as what turbo will be more beneficial. I truly believe adding the Stage 3 Engine Mod will improve your lap times no matter what Turbo you decide to use. :)
I hope that all makes sense, I'm really tired. :)
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In the MR-S at Monaco, my lap times with high end turbo were almost identical when I dropped hp to change ratio from 3.38 to 3.48. The car has good torque to begin with, the high end turbo makes it that much better, so much so that dropping 10hp didn't hurt. However, I took off all turbos, running the car at a 3.51 ratio (stock = 315hp) added a second to my lap times.
I guess I'm saying this^ engine mods and turbos, even if you dial back the hp, help the performance of cars.
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Thanks for taking the time to work it all out Wiz. I will be off for and engine mod.
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Thanks for taking the time to work it all out Wiz. I will be off for and engine mod.
:stoopid:
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(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g40/rbillingsley72/Misc/Misc%20People/imagesCAD8ACB5.jpg)
I'm sure this exceeds the weight limit for the class.
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DLR and I are running some laps in my room right now if any one is interested
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I did not have time last night to mess with adding the engine mod to the drink. I am wondering what the HP limiter % is when adding that mid range turbo and engine mod?
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I checked my Subaru last night and sadly I can't even do any engine mods on it lol. It does have 400+ torques with a mid RPM Turbo though, maybe it'll do ok on a more bendy track tonight :D.
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I did not have time last night to mess with adding the engine mod to the drink. I am wondering what the HP limiter % is when adding that mid range turbo and engine mod?
Don't remember exactly, but I think its in the mid 80's range.
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Is this topic in relation to an event/series? I've been looking to use some of my GT cars! But I read all 3 pages and searched around and didn't see anything really related to GT300/500.
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Yes it is, gimme a minuet and I'll bring up all the related links.
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Original series information thread
http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=208.0 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=208.0)
Current series progress thread.
http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=460.0 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=460.0)
All that said, this thread is specifically for posting any unofficial practice sessions (in other words "Hey I'm tired of practicing by my self come on over"). Now if you want to crash a practice session by all means feel free, just make sure you check the regulations for the series and run under the same regs every one else is.
When I run practice sessions, I try to keep my room to the 500 class specs (because I am entered in the 500 class) and I do large numbers of laps in free run under race conditions (Damage heavy, off course real, false start... ect.) with an occasional practice race (Usually half the posted race distance) but that is just my room, everyone holds practice in their own way so.
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I'm going to try a little GT300 on Grand Valley if anyone is around.
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My room is open for some 500 practice
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I'm hoping to get in a little practice tonight in the 300 Rome Reverse if anyone is around.
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I'm hoping to get in a little practice tonight in the 300 Rome Reverse if anyone is around.
I hope to join you maybe around 8-9. :-\
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I will try to make it LLF.
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I should be on around 8:30ish