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Online Events => Other Online Events => Topic started by: RoninTuna on February 14, 2012, 10:10:08 AM
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As you may or may not have figured out by now, the Monday Night Grand Touring (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=1439.0), A Hundred and Fifty Miles of Spa Francorchamps (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=1450.0) and the 200 miles of Laguna Seca (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=1525.0) have all been test beds for something greater.
Now it's time to begin testing for the ultimate goal. This test will be a short and simple single race shootout at the Road course of Daytona. Again as in the previous races there will be restrictions based on the cars numbers. *See fine print for details.
--Event--
- Friday March 9
- Daytona Road course
- 10 laps
- Start time - Qualifying begins at 8:30pm Eastern time Race begins at 9:00pm Eastern sharp
- False start - Off
- Cautions - No
- Penalties - Off
- Visible damage - Off
- Mechanical Damage - light
- Traction control - Permitted
- ABS - Permitted
- Active steering - OFF
- Skid recovery - OFF
- Driving line - Permitted
- Slipstream - Weak
- Finish delay - Maxed out
--Qualifying--
- Qualifying - Qualifying will be held in real time and will begin thirty minuets before the race
- Starting order will be reverse grid** See fine print for details
- Drivers must run a minimum of two timed laps.
--Car Restrictions--
- Performance points
- LM-P - 700 pp
- GT-1 - 625 PP
- GT-2 - 550 pp
- Tuning/Parts - Unrestricted
- Tires - Any Racing compound
--LM-P Car Selection (700pp)--
- 908 HDi FAP - Team Peugeot Total '10 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=808) or R8 Race Car '01 (Yellow) (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=54) #1
- R8 Race Car '01 (Red) (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=54) #2
- 908 HDi FAP - Team Oreca Matmut '10 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=807) or R8 Race Car (Audi PlayStation Team ORECA) '05 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=55) #4
- Speed 8 Race Car '03 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=72) #7
- R10 TDI Race Car '06 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=56) #8
- R10 TDI Stealth Model (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1042) #??
- V12 LMR Race Car '99 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=91) #15
- Pescarolo-Courage - Judd GV5 Race Car '04 (Green) (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=793) or Courage C60 - Peugeot Race Car '03 (Green) (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=791) #17
- Pescarolo-Courage - Judd GV5 Race Car '04 (Red) (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=793) or Courage C60 - Peugeot Race Car '03 (Red) (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=791) #18
--GT-1 Car Selection (625pp)--
- Ford GT LM Race Car 2004 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=216), 2004 Alternate (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=217) or 2007 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=218) #4
- R8 LMS Race Car (Team PlayStation) '09 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=53) #5
- GT-R Concept LM Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=686) #23
- Zonda LM Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=788) #24
- R390 GT1 Race Car '98 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=707) #32
- McLaren F1 GTR Race Car '97 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=89) #42
- Corvette C5-R (C5) '00 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=117) #64
- Camaro LM Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=108) #65
- Fairlady Z Concept LM Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=675) #75
- NOMAD Diablo GT-1 '00 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=381) #88
- Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=177)#51, #91
- RX-7 LM Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=500) #00, #7, #18, #26, #30, #37, #93
- Corvette Z06 (C6) RM '06 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=127)
- Corvette ZR1 (C6) RM '09 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=130)
- GT-R R35 Touring Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1068)
- McLaren F1 Stealth Model (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1039)
--GT-2 Car Selection (550pp)--
- Tuscan Speed 6 RM '00 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1000)
- Lancer Evolution IX GSR RM '05 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=619)
- INTEGRA TYPE R (DC5) RM '04 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=285)
- IS F RM '07 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=399)
- NSX RM '91 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=8)
- Camaro SS RM '10 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=112)
- Challenger SRT8 Touring Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1063)
- SKYLINE GT-R R34 Touring Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1071)
- IMPREZA Touring Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1072)
- RX-7 Touring Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=1066)
- SILVIA spec-R AERO (S15) RM '02 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=722)
- RX-8 Concept LM Race Car (http://www.mygranturismo.net/car_sheet.php?id=518) #55
--Entrants--
LM-P
- Wizard - Speed 8 Race Car '03 - #7
- TheHotstepper - R8 Race Car (Audi PlayStation Team ORECA) '05 - #4
- Brindle - Pescarolo-Courage - Judd GV5 Race Car '04 - #17
- Baked - 908 HDi FAP - Team Peugeot - #1
GT-1
- STVM_RoninTuna - GT-R R35 Touring Car - #29
- Metal - Corvette Z06 (C6) RM '06 - #20
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GT-2
- Sniper - Challenger SRT8 Touring Car - 72
- GTP_Rylvir - Mazda RX-7 Touring Car #22
- Chrome - IS F RM '07 - #14
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--Floaters--
- Turbo-Tuna
- Fyldenn
--Miscellaneous--
- Only four entrants per class to keep some semblance of balance
- Once a car is chosen a driver may not change his car.
- Car selection is first come first serve.
- No instances of Duplicate Numbers *
- Disconnects during a race will be treated as a DNF due to mechanical failure.
--Fine Print--
* - Like before Cars are restricted to only one car per class can bare a number. If more than one car of the same class have the same number, only one is eligible. Once one car baring a number is chosen any other cars in that class that have the same number are considered ineligible. Duplicate number clause dose not apply to cars of another class. In other words the number 4 can appear on a LM-P, GT-1 and GT-2 cars simultaneously. RM, TC and Stealth cars with personalized numbers are limited to four and can not bare a number found on a non personalizable car of the same class. Cars are also restricted to numbers consisting of one or two digits. This means if a car has a three digit number such as the Blue RX-7 LM #202 are not eligible.
** LM-P's must start in the back behind GT-1 who are to start behind GT-2
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10 laps.
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10 laps.
Yes ten laps. I want the race to be reasonably short in duration but still long enough to gauge the level of separation between the classes and I feel ten laps should be just enough.
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Interesting, I like the idea of racing separate classes. However I will be on vacation that date so I cannot partake. :P
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Interesting, I like the idea of racing separate classes. However I will be on vacation that date so I cannot partake. :P
Again? Oh ya,
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/1monocle.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
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I'm half tempted to take the Integra RM, but I'm just thinking out loud.
Also, 20 laps wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. :)
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I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make this but if I do, I'd like to drive the Bentley Speed 8.
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Interesting, I like the idea of racing separate classes. However I will be on vacation that date so I cannot partake. :P
Again? Oh ya,
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/1monocle.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Indeed, my good man! Headed to Big Sky Montana for some high country snow skiing!
(http://blog.jaspatrick.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Snob-jas-patrick-blog.jpg)
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I'm half tempted to take the Integra RM, but I'm just thinking out loud.
Also, 20 laps wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. :)
I'm not 100% sure I'll be able to make this but if I do, I'd like to drive the Bentley Speed 8.
Ok, I'll list you both as "undecided" for right now. But if some one comes along and steals your car before you decide to commit you'll have to make another selection when and if you decide to commit to it. Also with cars with variable numbers like the stealth cars, RM's and TC's I'll want your running number so it can be listed with you so no one can steal your number out from under you.
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Put me down for #14, and I'll sample a few cars tonight.
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Ahh, if only west coasters had an opportunity to actually make this event.
Any particular reason why this is being run so early?
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If this starts at 7, put me down as a possible in the 908 Team Peugeot. If it starts at 10, I'm out.
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Ahh, if only west coasters had an opportunity to actually make this event.
Any particular reason why this is being run so early?
Well, I used the existing template from races I wanted to get run and completed before I had to leave for work, since I don't have to work on Friday nights I can push the start time back some for this as long as it's not too late for the East coasters. I could go as late as 9:00PM if that would work out better.
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If this starts at 7, put me down as a possible in the 908 Team Peugeot. If it starts at 10, I'm out.
I am positive you are not alone in that. Would 9 be acceptable though? I'm positive this race will take less than an hour if not less than half an hour.
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Uhm, the host doesn't like West Coasters? DOH! J/K Sniper......I wish I could make it, but alas, I have a real life on Fridays that precludes my Virtual life (Dammit! >:( ) Come East - I Haz Beer! :D
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It's just a single 10 lap race correct? That should only take 20-30 minutes I would think. Anyway, if the time is pushed back, I would be interested in running either the Challenger RM or Camaro RM if the guys that ran them before don't want them.
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It's just a single 10 lap race correct? That should only take 20-30 minutes I would think. Anyway, if the time is pushed back, I would be interested in running either the Challenger RM or Camaro RM if the guys that ran them before don't want them.
Yes, just a quick ten lapper this time by.
If you want to wait to see if Dawson wants to stay in the Challenger TC or Cip wants to stay in the Camaro RM it's up to you, I can put you down as undecided as well. With this being a test race with such limited number of entry space and ample number of cars to choose from I'm not planning on holding cars for people, they are first come first serve pretty much.
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I guess I'll jump into a GT-1 car and take my trusty Rainbow Nissan. So far all of the interest seems to be geared to the GT-2 and LM-P.
The Goal here is to gauge the degree of separation between the classes at 75 pp difference for reference for future Endurance races. If the separation is too great I'll run another one of these at 50 pp difference and see how that works out.
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It's just a single 10 lap race correct? That should only take 20-30 minutes I would think. Anyway, if the time is pushed back, I would be interested in running either the Challenger RM or Camaro RM if the guys that ran them before don't want them.
Yes, just a quick ten lapper this time by.
If you want to wait to see if Dawson wants to stay in the Challenger TC or Cip wants to stay in the Camaro RM it's up to you, I can put you down as undecided as well. With this being a test race with such limited number of entry space and ample number of cars to choose from I'm not planning on holding cars for people, they are first come first serve pretty much.
I appreciate the courtesy Ronin, though perhaps I'm not understanding this event properly. If this is just a single event (taking place on the 9th) then I cannot make it. If it is the start of a series then I can probably make further dates. So if it is just this one night, Sniper is free to use the Challenger TC as I will be absent. But if it is a continual series then yeah I might want to use the Challenger, though I actually would probably not just so I can try out something new (but make no mistake that Challenger is fun to drive!) ;D
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It's just a single 10 lap race correct? That should only take 20-30 minutes I would think. Anyway, if the time is pushed back, I would be interested in running either the Challenger RM or Camaro RM if the guys that ran them before don't want them.
Yes, just a quick ten lapper this time by.
If you want to wait to see if Dawson wants to stay in the Challenger TC or Cip wants to stay in the Camaro RM it's up to you, I can put you down as undecided as well. With this being a test race with such limited number of entry space and ample number of cars to choose from I'm not planning on holding cars for people, they are first come first serve pretty much.
I appreciate the courtesy Ronin, though perhaps I'm not understanding this event properly. If this is just a single event (taking place on the 9th) then I cannot make it. If it is the start of a series then I can probably make further dates. So if it is just this one night, Sniper is free to use the Challenger TC as I will be absent. But if it is a continual series then yeah I might want to use the Challenger, though I actually would probably not just so I can try out something new (but make no mistake that Challenger is fun to drive!) ;D
This is just a single event taking place on the 9th for some fun reconnaissance efforts. The car thing only came up because Sniper said "if the guys that ran them before don't want them"
Oh, and I'm an asshole, the courtesy is not from me, it's from Sniper (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) .
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Hehe, well given that then I say have at it! I won't be around ;)
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I'm thinking I should be able to make this (not 100% yet) but I'd like the Team ORECA R8 #4 por favor.
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OK, tentatively put me down for the Challenger RM #72.
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OK, tentatively put me down for the Challenger RM #72.
You mean the Challenger TC right? The Challenger RM and the Challenger TC are two very different cars and RM's not one of the eligible cars.
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Yeah, the TC is what I meant.
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I am about 80% sure i can make it. Would like to try the 908 Pugeot that isnt spoken for if you dont mind.
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I am about 80% sure i can make it. Would like to try the 908 Pugeot that isnt spoken for if you dont mind.
Stepper beat you to it. The one that Brindle asked for is #1 and the other is #4 which is shared by the R8 Stepper called. Brindle seemed pretty definite on entry but I want to confirm whether the time shift to 9:00 would still work for him.
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Yeah, the TC is what I meant.
I just had to double check, the first time I chalked it up to a memory oops with the challenger TC still being new but after two I had to make sure we had been talking about the same car just to be safe.
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I am about 80% sure i can make it. Would like to try the 908 Pugeot that isnt spoken for if you dont mind.
Stepper beat you to it. The one that Brindle asked for is #1 and the other is #4 which is shared by the R8 Stepper called. Brindle seemed pretty definite on entry but I want to confirm whether the time shift to 9:00 would still work for him.
My bad didnt catch that. Oh well have fun everyone.
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I am about 80% sure i can make it. Would like to try the 908 Pugeot that isnt spoken for if you dont mind.
Stepper beat you to it. The one that Brindle asked for is #1 and the other is #4 which is shared by the R8 Stepper called. Brindle seemed pretty definite on entry but I want to confirm whether the time shift to 9:00 would still work for him.
My bad didnt catch that. Oh well have fun everyone.
You can have it if you want Baked... I can run something else.
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fridays are great for me, i'll bring out the RM z06 again #20 for the GT-1 class
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I'm in: GT2 Class, Mazda RX-7 Touring Car #22
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IS F RM '07, #14
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I have been confused about a few of the cars being an either or situation and. It just hit me(insert slow joke here) it is because of shared numbers that some choices will get eliminated. Am I understanding that correctly?
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I have been confused about a few of the cars being an either or situation and. It just hit me(insert slow joke here) it is because of shared numbers that some choices will get eliminated. Am I understanding that correctly?
Yes, that is exactly what it is.
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I have been confused about a few of the cars being an either or situation and. It just hit me(insert slow joke here) it is because of shared numbers that some choices will get eliminated. Am I understanding that correctly?
Yes, that is exactly what it is.
OK mind if I ask what the number has to do with it? I get curious some times.
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I have been confused about a few of the cars being an either or situation and. It just hit me(insert slow joke here) it is because of shared numbers that some choices will get eliminated. Am I understanding that correctly?
Yes, that is exactly what it is.
OK mind if I ask what the number has to do with it? I get curious some times.
The primary reason.....It's one of my biggest pet peeves with this game. Numbers are on the car for a reason and it's not to make them prettier. Having multiple cars of the same class with the same number on the raceway at the same time is just plain wrong.
Additionally this does promote some variety as well. If I did not have this restriction, how many people do you recon would want to drive the 908's largely because they are premium and reasonable to drive right out of the box? It's in our nature, People will all ways flock to what is perceived as the the "Go To" car. This stipulation prohibits that, The R10, the C60's the Bently they will all compete with the 908. Some people just need some added incentive to get into them is all.
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I can understand wanting a diverse field and if that is the sole reason I would understand as I have a sincere appreciation for such fields. But the logic of limiting a car based on the number it carries I don't get. The original purpose of the numbers was for scoring from the tower. But even all three of the local kart tracks have electronic scoring with transponders required on every kart making numbers even at that level superfluous. Here in the cyber world where the scoring is definetly electronic I just don't get it. But like I said was just asking out of curiousity. :-)
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I would like to switch cars if I may. I would like to enter with the Pescarolo-Courage - Judd GV5 Race Car '04 (Green) or Courage C60 - Peugeot Race Car '03 (Green) #17
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I would like to switch cars if I may. I would like to enter with the Pescarolo-Courage - Judd GV5 Race Car '04 (Green) or Courage C60 - Peugeot Race Car '03 (Green) #17
There is two cars there, I know they are actually two different years of the same car but which one you running.
Also I'll hook baked up with your old car
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Thanks... That was my plan. :)
IDK, I copy pasted it from the list. It's the first one.
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It is done and that closes the LM-P class. Now to fill out the GT-1 and GT-2 classes.
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So this is running at 9pm now? I might just be able to make that. I'll check back in closer to the date and see if you're still looking to fill up any class.
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So this is running at 9pm now? I might just be able to make that. I'll check back in closer to the date and see if you're still looking to fill up any class.
Yes, 9 PM, Friday nights are good for me because I don't have to work and it's a better time for the west coasters.
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Here I go...Looks interesting Ronin, I can usually race on Friday nights also, but I don't want to 'sign up' How about I show up, you tell me what class to run in, and I take part? I'll 'even out the field' I have lots of cars ready for GT-1 or GT-2. I could run an LMP too. If there's no room when the time comes, that's fine.
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Here I go...Looks interesting Ronin, I can usually race on Friday nights also, but I don't want to 'sign up' How about I show up, you tell me what class to run in, and I take part? I'll 'even out the field' I have lots of cars ready for GT-1 or GT-2. I could run an LMP too. If there's no room when the time comes, that's fine.
Well, I do generally like to know who will be there in advance but with this I had been considering the idea of alternates. For this format I am confident that full fields for each class is imperative for it to be enjoyed. Considering this is a twelve car race there is room for some alternates to stop by and see if a spot is open so yeah, we can do that.
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Okay, I'll make it a bit easier for the organizer. I will be there. Right now, GT-1 is low, so let's say I'll be in one of those. I know I have instant access to 6 that are unspoken for, so I'll wait to decide. I don't care what I end up in, I just want to race.
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This race is this coming Friday, I can't wait.
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I'm going to be running some practice for this in my lounge if any one wants to come out.
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I'm going to be running some practice for this in my lounge if any one wants to come out.
I doubt I'll have time tonight. I'm going to hockey in just over an hour and it's the kids' bed time very soon. I 'might' get to do a few laps.
Question though for anyone who has experience (and I'm sure you do Ronin), how does that GT-R (R35) TC compare to the Z06 RM? I'm not using either on Friday, I'm just curious, as I've yet to test the GT-R (R35) TC.
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I'm going to be running some practice for this in my lounge if any one wants to come out.
I doubt I'll have time tonight. I'm going to hockey in just over an hour and it's the kids' bed time very soon. I 'might' get to do a few laps.
Question though for anyone who has experience (and I'm sure you do Ronin), how does that GT-R (R35) TC compare to the Z06 RM? I'm not using either on Friday, I'm just curious, as I've yet to test the GT-R (R35) TC.
lol Both the Z06 and the R35 are spoken for but to answer your question, Metal and I had a half second difference or less duel lasting for over an hour at the Laguna Seca race this past Friday.
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lol Both the Z06 and the R35 are spoken for but to answer your question, Metal and I had a half second difference or less duel lasting for over an hour at the Laguna Seca race this past Friday.
I thought so, but too lazy to check details... it'll be interesting to see how that translates to a short DRC race.
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lol Both the Z06 and the R35 are spoken for but to answer your question, Metal and I had a half second difference or less duel lasting for over an hour at the Laguna Seca race this past Friday.
I thought so, but too lazy to check details... it'll be interesting to see how that translates to a short DRC race.
What'll be even more interesting is a quick test of GT-1 and GT-2 tonight I found the GT-2's almost exactly 10 seconds slower than GT-1.
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Looks like I might not make this one. UC just beat Georgetown and plays Syracuse tomorrow night at 7. The game (if there isn't a double overtime) will probably end about 9. Unless it's a blowout one way or the other (hopefully UC blowing out the team of pedophiles and addicts) then I won't make it.
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We need more floaters.
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As much as I hate to do this I might have to do some fishing tonight to fill the field, with only two floaters and three open spots and one announced questionable arrival. Worst case scenario we could get away with running three cars per class but Ideally I would like four. Never the less we are still on and gathering at Sho-Sho's lounge a little before qualifying start time.
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I will need a friend requewt to shosho to be able to attend. When shosho went away i deleted to make space.
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I will need a friend requewt to shosho to be able to attend. When shosho went away i deleted to make space.
Yeah, that is why I said it. I can't hold these in the host Tuna lounge because the TGTiF races are going to be there.
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I will need a friend requewt to shosho to be able to attend. When shosho went away i deleted to make space.
FR sent.
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I'm opening up the room here in a couple min for practice.
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I'll be in when the kids are quietly in bed...whenever that is. I wanna go fast.
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Despite some minor issues this turned out to be a good test.
Results
Wizard - LM-P
Feldynn - LM-P
Baked - LM-P
Hey - GT-1
Ronin - GT-1
Metal - GT-1
Eggs - GT-2
Turbo - GT-2
Chrome - GT-2
Sniper GT-2
Fried - LM-P
Nosocks - GT-1
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Last nights test race went over well despite a fairly large setback. I got some great shots of the LM-P's overtaking the GT-1's but by far the best racing was to be found in GT-2. The 4 GT-2 cars where no more than a half a second apart for ninety percent of the race where Sniper pitted in separating himself from the rest of GT-2. A grid staging issue caused some unwarranted separation in both the LM-P and GT-1 classes but this can be fixed with manual grid staging.
Turn one lap one
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_36.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_37.jpg)
Feldynn's LM-P Overtakes my GT-1 on lap one
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_38.jpg)
BakedTuna's LM-P overtakes Metalfreak1520's GT-1 on lap 1
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_39.jpg)
An early GT-2 battle between Sweeteggs (Silvia) and DesertSniper72 (Challenger)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_40.jpg)
A GT-1 Battle for position on lap 3 when SlowmanTuna's 07 Ford GT charges my 09 GT-R
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_41.jpg)
TurboTuna (NSX), Sweeteggs (Silvia) and DesertSniper72 (Challenger) take the bus stop in triplicate.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v371/battousaiofnphiles/GT4%20Pics/RoadCourse-Daytona_43.jpg)
TurboTuna (NSX) and DesertSniper72 (Challenger) side by side going into turn one on lap 5
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My GT-1 overtaking Feldynn's LM-P on lap 5
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TurboTuna (NSX), Sweeteggs (Silvia), DesertSniper72 (Challenger) and ChromeTuna (ISF) in their epic battle, I could not tell you what lap, they where like this most of the race, If I was to guess I'd say lap 6
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TunaWiz nabs him self a drive through penalty with a crash on Pit road on lap 6
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FriedTuna and TunaWiz on pit road on lap 7
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BakedTuna's LM-P overtakes SlowManTuna's GT-1 on lap 8 after pit stop for the LM-P
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My late race charge on SlowmanTuna's 07 Ford GT
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But because I am an idiot my late race charge was too little too late as I forgot to set the post race timer and time expired before I could take the position.
Congrats goes out to Wizard for the overall and LM-P class win, SlowmanTuna for the GT-1 Class win and Eggs for the GT-2 class win.
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Too many minutes to think. And now I thought i would ask why was the field reversed?
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Too many minutes to think. And now I thought i would ask why was the field reversed?
It was originally intended to be a test detail. I wanted (and still do to a point) to have the higher classes work through the lower classes, this is intended more for use under endurance format. It was not absolutely necessary for a sprint format but it needed testing. I would have hated to find that grid staging flaw that we saw during this race in a planned endurance race. Having seen the issue I know all ready how to fix it.
Now I have a question. The pre race inspection that I tried out. That was a suggestion from Hey that I thought I would try on the fly. Was that too much of a hassle or do you think it worked despite having no advanced warning?
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The pre race inspection was ok. But 40 mins of ptre race seemed a bit much. And multi class was cool to see but would the reverse grid be in future races?
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The pre race inspection was ok. But 40 mins of ptre race seemed a bit much.
Half an hour of it was qualifying and The inspection process took a little longer to execute than it should have due to some confusion with floaters and what class they where driving. I think the inspection process can go much quicker when everyone knows what all is going on. The half hour of qualifying is an attempt to keep qualifying live and not resorting to the qualifying in advance that the TPRA does. I personally do not like the whole qualify in advance thing they do so I am trying to avoid that at all costs because it requires a commitment in advance that many here do not want. Additionally due to confusion I spent most of the qualifying time explaining what was going on to the floaters.
The Pre race organizing can be cut down significantly. With the issues we had trying to use the ingame grid staging It would be safer and more accurate to manually stage the grid. That said there would be no need for us to wait for a last second LM-P to get a Q-time, he would just start at the back of his/her respective class like we saw last night with Feldynn needing to get a time in. We could knock it down to prolly fifteen minuets pretty safely with some practice.
And multi class was cool to see but would the reverse grid be in future races?
I'm not rightly sure yet. It will require a little more testing. You definitely got hosed in this race when you got hung up in traffic wile Wizard started in front, Fried roared around the other two classes almost unscathed and Feldynn managed to slalom through with only minor issue. The whole reverse grid thing is intended to add further challenge but at this point it may not be necessary.
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While I understand your desire to have the faster cars start in the back for more of a challenge, I think they should start out front and here's why...
Qualifying could be done in a normal fashion. Doesn't get any easier than that! :)
With the way you have it now, the chaos created in the first few turns is only going to separate people from their class, which I think is the exact opposite of what you want to happen. If the faster cars start out front, I think it would promote better racing within each class.
If it stays the way you have it now, take the example of an LMP crashing into a GT1 car in turn one, now they're both probably out of contention within their class. Doesn't make any sense to me.
In my opinion starting the faster cars out front is a win/win.
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Regarding the reverse grid start, as one of the less competent drivers (especially in an LMP car, sorry Hey :( ) I would much rather the faster classes start at the front basically for the same reason Wiz mentioned. From my POV it was a bit of a cluster, I just didn't know which way to go in the initial start and first corner then totally misjudged braking points and ran right into Hey at turn 2 pushing him off track. A better driver may not have done that though, and for what it's worth I don't think I caused too much of a problem lapping people after that when I had more time to anticipate.
I like the live qualifying and pre-race inspection, there is probably a way we can refine the process so it doesn't take quite as long but I don't think it should be removed at all. Maybe if at 5 minutes before end of Q (or close to it when they're happy with their time) everyone pulls into the pits but don't exit the track, then pull out one by one and lines up according to the display on the right. Everyone notes down their own position (Ronin could take a quick master list, like just initial + position) and we exit the track, track is changed to clear times and we all get back on track class by class for the inspection then line up accordingly and start the race.
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lol... I looked at the HostTuna account to see if anyone was in there for TGTIF and when that was empty, looked at ShoShoTuna and was like "oh, this is where everyone is!"
doh!
I don't usually find myself able to race on Fridays, but if I do I'll keep this series in mind.
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lol... I looked at the HostTuna account to see if anyone was in there for TGTIF and when that was empty, looked at ShoShoTuna and was like "oh, this is where everyone is!"
doh!
I don't usually find myself able to race on Fridays, but if I do I'll keep this series in mind.
This is not a series, this race here was a scaled down formatting test. The next time we'll see this (at least from me) it'll be an Endurance event.
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Sorry I missed this, looks like you guys had fun and got a lot of great pics! But with the weather the way it's been, Friday night was party night, and I had no chance of making this event :(