Okay a few more hits makes this more reassuring :)
Current vehicle assignments (not locked in yet)
GrumpyTuna - '69 Camaro
DudeTuna - '69 Camaro
RickS95 - ???
dlrws6 - '69 Camaro
TunaPhreak - ???
WolfpackS2k - '70 Challenger
Turbo-Tuna - '63 Corvette Z06
Revengel - '69 Camaro
LooneyTuna - '70 Challenger (2nd choice Camaro)
I have lap times (for each car) written down from what I was tweaking the specs to even out the cars. I think mid 1:40s were achieved by all if memory serves me correct. The written down times are at home of course ;D Both the Corvette and Challenger topped 190 on the longest straight.
Only running mid 45's here with the Camaro. Sounds like I will be bring up the rear in this race, going on the times i have seen here. Also tires are not lasting that long for me, just my driving i guess.
I'm going to have to do some cipherin' when I get home. My car feels strong, handles well, pulls hard coming out of the turns, and hits 193-194 at the start/finish, but I'm not seeing 40s. I ran either a 41.7 or a 42.7 last night (can't remember which) and that was with 10 laps under my belt. Can't think of any place where I can pick up a second or two.
Fortunately, I look amazing in the Corvette. :D
Now i don't feel to slow WolfpackS2k. :)
P.S. Revengel you missed something last night! I still need help! :-[
dam 2 months away...gonna need a reminder i don't usually remember much past 3-4days ::)
Hey - just did some tuning & running (wee baby Sheamus was up for a while!)
Here's what I have for my tune. This is for a broken in '69 RM.
Suspension:
Ride Ht: -9 / -10
Spring: 12.1 / 10.6
Dampers: 6 all the way around.
Anti Roll: 4 all the way around.
Camber: 1.9 / 1.3
Toe: Zilch.
Will try the new update out! Thanks again for the help Revengel!
P.S. Ran a high 43 with the other tune!
Tranny tricked to 221
LSD: My standard 12/23/12
Aero: 20/50 (will likely take some of that off)
Actual time: 1:44.238
Not impressive at all...but then again I'm not hitting 190 on the straights like the others are.
My brake balance was 4/7 but now it's 5/5 and I've got pretty even tire wear.
Hope that helps!
Now i don't feel to slow WolfpackS2k. :)
P.S. Revengel you missed something last night! I still need help! :-[
My thuderous bad...Wee Baby Sheamus (who I think will be my pit chief) was in need most of the evening. That said here's what I recall from my setup on Race Hards - I did run some Race Mediums and...maybe it was the lateness of the hour...but I was only able to get down to a 1:44.023 for whatever reason. Actually I think I know. But I digress...
Camber: 1.9 - 1.3.
Toe: Zeroes.
Ht: -10 front, -12 Rear. This is a plan for the infield.
Spring: 13.0 Front, 10.5 (iirc) rear. Have to update that tonight.
Dampers: 8/8, 7/7
Anti-Roll - 4/4
Aero - Max in front, 45 in rear. I'll likely adjust that tonight as well.
Tranny - Tricked then set fina gear to 230 (for draft) or 215-220 for solo driving.
My est times are around 4:45.1x in Race Hards and I'm getting 18-20 laps out of them.
Hope that helps!
So I guess it begs to question:
Will tire wear be on or off for this? While I love the idea of pit stops (and heck, heavy damage) I understand RickS95's point.
So I guess it begs to question:
Will tire wear be on or off for this? While I love the idea of pit stops (and heck, heavy damage) I understand RickS95's point.
Don't change the rules for me. That said, heavy damage would cause realistic pit stops. Also, I haven't checked fuel usage (because I was so pissed about the tire wear), but that would be another cause for pit stops. Some months ago Hey, Spec and I ran an enduro at DRC. Each race was something like 90 minutes long. Spec ran out of fuel twice, so it can be an issue.
In a nutshell, I've always been hard on the tires. But last night I was intentionally trying to save the tires and crashed on the 5th lap because the rears couldn't handle the power.
So I guess it begs to question:
Will tire wear be on or off for this? While I love the idea of pit stops (and heck, heavy damage) I understand RickS95's point.
Don't change the rules for me. That said, heavy damage would cause realistic pit stops. Also, I haven't checked fuel usage (because I was so pissed about the tire wear), but that would be another cause for pit stops. Some months ago Hey, Spec and I ran an enduro at DRC. Each race was something like 90 minutes long. Spec ran out of fuel twice, so it can be an issue.
In a nutshell, I've always been hard on the tires. But last night I was intentionally trying to save the tires and crashed on the 5th lap because the rears couldn't handle the power.
I was in that Enduro driving for TKB. Still have the Green Vette in the garage!
I drive very differently with tire wear on because I know I have to conserve them...and I hate spinning out. I shoot for even wear. That said I haven't taken the '63 for a spin at DRC (which is like my...4st favorite track?) so I can't speak to rear tire burn. I'm getting 12+ laps on Mediums and 18+ on hards with solid 1:44-45 lap times. They creep up to 1:46 after about 8-10 laps and slowly creep up from there.
Anyone else for heavy damage?
Now i don't feel to slow WolfpackS2k. :)
P.S. Revengel you missed something last night! I still need help! :-[
My thuderous bad...Wee Baby Sheamus (who I think will be my pit chief) was in need most of the evening. That said here's what I recall from my setup on Race Hards - I did run some Race Mediums and...maybe it was the lateness of the hour...but I was only able to get down to a 1:44.023 for whatever reason. Actually I think I know. But I digress...
Camber: 1.9 - 1.3.
Toe: Zeroes.
Ht: -10 front, -12 Rear. This is a plan for the infield.
Spring: 13.0 Front, 10.5 (iirc) rear. Have to update that tonight.
Dampers: 8/8, 7/7
Anti-Roll - 4/4
Aero - Max in front, 45 in rear. I'll likely adjust that tonight as well.
Tranny - Tricked then set fina gear to 230 (for draft) or 215-220 for solo driving.
My est times are around 4:45.1x in Race Hards and I'm getting 18-20 laps out of them.
Hope that helps!
I see why guys are switching to iRacing. Last week I did a little testing and ran however many laps with no tire wear. Just wanted to get a good idea of what lap times I could expect. At the time I was seeing high 42s. Tonight I thought I'd run a few more laps, this time with tire wear on to see what lap times I could expect and how many laps I could get out of a set of tires.
I'm almost two full seconds a lap slower and I doubt I can get 10 laps out of the tires.
As good as we think this game is, there's simply nothing realistic about it. I think Gar has the right idea by running his series with tire wear turned off. During a race it's literally impossible to run a full lap with tires at their optimum because at the start of the race you run the first lap from a stand still and by the time you're ready for your second lap, the tires are already showing wear. Make a pit stop and you can't count the lap you pitted on because you have to slow down to make the pits and then then next lap is killed due to time in the pits and by the time you're ready for a full lap, your tires are showing wear again.
What a joke.
I don't feel so bad about my 45's now. :)
I don't feel so bad about my 45's now. :)
I ran a few more laps last night before waving the white flag. Went out nice and easy, used the torque to help me through the corners, broke early, and short shifted. Ran 46s and 47s preserving the tires for 5 laps, noticed the ass end wanted to start coming around on lap 6.
Went back to the garage and lowered the aero on both the front and back thinking it would extend tire life. It did, sort of. The extended life of the tires was offset by the lack of grip and associated tire wear of sliding.
Went back the garage again and added some traction control...set it at 2. Basically, did nothing.
I'm crying 'uncle.'
. Actually strike the part about the rear end.
. Actually strike the part about the rear end.
Correct. If you have a twitchy rear that likes to come around, try adding +10 (or more) to get that rear in the air. I have not run a single lap, so my response simply comes from my pocket .... however from what I've read here, it sounds like exactly what is needed. Lower numbers on torque/acceleration can/will help too, but thats just covering the source problem. If you find the rear-height that it wants to keep it inline with the front wheels, you can put alot of the numbers back into the trq/acc
Returning to observing the forum ... ;)
Also, how do we add this evnet to the Tunas calendar?
I'm...alive! I tell ya, these 9 day long vacations really take their toll ;D
Anyways, I need to start practicing for this soon!
And could anybody that hasn't chimed in please state whether or not October 12th works for them please???
Also, how do we add this evnet to the Tunas calendar?
I'm...alive! I tell ya, these 9 day long vacations really take their toll ;D
Anyways, I need to start practicing for this soon!
And could anybody that hasn't chimed in please state whether or not October 12th works for them please???
Also, how do we add this evnet to the Tunas calendar?
Lets try and turn some laps this weekend.
I'm not sure exactly when yet but I'm pretty sure I'll spend some time this weekend practicing. If I recall correctly I think I was only in the 1.46s my last test session.
Is their an advantage to either one? I usually do short.
Is their an advantage to either one? I usually do short.
Having cars shoot out into turn 1 makes it a scarier corner than it already is.
Is their an advantage to either one? I usually do short.
Having cars shoot out into turn 1 makes it a scarier corner than it already is.
I'll have you know, I can shoot out of either exit!
Try to make that Z06 work for you as we already have plenty of Z28's signed up for participation! :P
Yes I will be around for that this weekend and definitely would like to run a 30 lap "sprint". Should be around Friday but Sunday will be even better...should be free most any time that day.
Football mannnnnnnnnnnnn
It's football season and I have season tickets to NCSU. First home game is Saturday ^-^
If any one is interested, I'm pretty sure I'll spend a couple hours Saturday morning practicing. Probably around 8 or 9 a.m. Eastern time, if any one wants to join it.
Also, for matter most part if you see an orange dot under my name this weekend I'm most likely practicing and any and all are welcome to join.
Also, Also, I don't want to gratuitously cross promote, but if any one is interest I may also mess around with the Group C project I've been tinkering with.
Thank you my friend!
Hey this is a reminder for everyone to keep practicing in their spare time. The race is just over 3 weeks away. Everyone should also make sure to send me a Friend Request if we're not already pals :P
If they are interested, are racers from the TPRA welcome to participate in this Enduro? If so I'll ask if Kartracer and some others would like to join in. I'm thinking that I'd like to run, too.
General reminder that this race is coming up fast! Less than one week till go time fellas!
I've decided on a lap count of lap count of 67. That should put the race length right around 2 hours.
As another reminder be sure to check your tire longevity! After the latest GT5 update the tire wear has changed drastically and I've found you can go much further on a set of tires than before. :o
My tire wear has been pretty even which I am quite pleased with. When I last practiced I was able to get 19 laps out of a set of tires. Most of my times were in the 1:45s with just a handful 1:44s. I was trying to see how far I could push the tires though so there was a lot of short shifting out of 2nd gear in the interest of preservation.
Just did some driving last night with the new tire wear. While before I was getting 12 laps I can certainly get 16-18 or more (depending on driving) with the new wear. I give that a thumbs up.
Was doing laps and had a low of only 1:43.582. I'm not going to be fast enough but I'll do what I can! On the plus side Dr. Mrs. will take care of wee baby Sheamus that night!
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Just did some driving last night with the new tire wear. While before I was getting 12 laps I can certainly get 16-18 or more (depending on driving) with the new wear. I give that a thumbs up.
Was doing laps and had a low of only 1:43.582. I'm not going to be fast enough but I'll do what I can! On the plus side Dr. Mrs. will take care of wee baby Sheamus that night!
8)
I did some sober 1'44 laps Sunday morning. I should look at it again before Friday, but your time is better than mine. :)
Also, does anyone know how to make the brakes work better on the Camero?
It just seems to take a long distance to slow done. My trouble is at the hair pin and the right turn at the end after that.
Just did some driving last night with the new tire wear. While before I was getting 12 laps I can certainly get 16-18 or more (depending on driving) with the new wear. I give that a thumbs up.
Was doing laps and had a low of only 1:43.582. I'm not going to be fast enough but I'll do what I can! On the plus side Dr. Mrs. will take care of wee baby Sheamus that night!
8)
I did some sober 1'44 laps Sunday morning. I should look at it again before Friday, but your time is better than mine. :)
Also, does anyone know how to make the brakes work better on the Camero?
It just seems to take a long distance to slow done. My trouble is at the hair pin and the right turn at the end after that.
Turns 3 and 5?
what tires?
We will have this event in my lounge so please be sure that you're PSN friends with me.
I will be shortly sending out a PM to everyone that has signed up for this race.
When I could hold it together, I was getting 1:46s on RH tires. Which is about right, I'm usually 2+ seconds slower than the fast guys. :laugh
Just to chime in - it's possible to be in your "My Lounge" without being a PSN friend of yours.
For example: if I'm freinds with RickS59 & he's friends with you I can just go to the community tab in GT5, look at his profile & I'll see a yellow circle next to the teacup (Lounge). That indicates that he's online & I can click on the yellow circle to join whatever lounge he's in.
Hope that helps!
Hahaha, yeah I think maybe ;)
Good thinking on the penalties while practicing. I would hope that everyone tries to keep at least 2 tires on the asphalt while navigating through there. I mean heck anything more than that and I dunno how you wouldn't spin.
Someone mentioned race hard tires. everyone for the race should be on race medium tires only :D
I'm stuck at the office right now so I can't figure this out for myself...can anyone tell me how many liters of fuel you can pick up at a pit stop while the crew is changing tires (meaning that the fuel filler guy stops about the same time the tire guys are done so you don't sit there with your thumb up your butt)? I was thinking you could get 14 or 17 liters in about the same time as it takes the guys to change the tires.
Working on my pit strategy and I forgot this important piece of information.
I'm stuck at the office right now so I can't figure this out for myself...can anyone tell me how many liters of fuel you can pick up at a pit stop while the crew is changing tires (meaning that the fuel filler guy stops about the same time the tire guys are done so you don't sit there with your thumb up your butt)? I was thinking you could get 14 or 17 liters in about the same time as it takes the guys to change the tires.
Working on my pit strategy and I forgot this important piece of information.
Thanks guys. Unfortunately, I really need the number to be 36 for my figures to work the way I want them to.
I'm stuck at the office right now so I can't figure this out for myself...can anyone tell me how many liters of fuel you can pick up at a pit stop while the crew is changing tires (meaning that the fuel filler guy stops about the same time the tire guys are done so you don't sit there with your thumb up your butt)? I was thinking you could get 14 or 17 liters in about the same time as it takes the guys to change the tires.
Working on my pit strategy and I forgot this important piece of information.
14 is the number I remember.
Thanks guys. Unfortunately, I really need the number to be 36 for my figures to work the way I want them to.
ok 36 it is then
Thanks guys. Unfortunately, I really need the number to be 36 for my figures to work the way I want them to.
ok 36 it is then
Y'all are awesome.
Here's the thing - it's less how much you can put in per pit stop, it's how much do you need to put in during the race. For example if I need to put in 100 then I need to figure out roughly how many liters I need per pit stop. Only two pits? around fiddy liters per pit. Four? 25 per pit. The thing is you're going to need that fuel eventually - the plan is to finish with the least amount of petrol in your tank at the end of the race.
Thanks guys. Unfortunately, I really need the number to be 36 for my figures to work the way I want them to.
ok 36 it is then
Y'all are awesome.
Here's the thing - it's less how much you can put in per pit stop, it's how much do you need to put in during the race. For example if I need to put in 100 then I need to figure out roughly how many liters I need per pit stop. Only two pits? around fiddy liters per pit. Four? 25 per pit. The thing is you're going to need that fuel eventually - the plan is to finish with the least amount of petrol in your tank at the end of the race.
odd thing the only race car i've found in game so far that the rims can be changed on is the C2 racing vette we are using in this event...enjoy ;D
Since I'm letting the game itself line us up in order for the race start I don't see how you can change your tune without losing your qualifying spot.
If you guys like I know a way around that but it will require about 5 minutes extra to set it up. If nobody minds that bump in time it's fine by me.
Did I read correctly that the draft now works in qualifying sessions? I think I've got enough squeeze left to draft but I'm not positive.
Did I read correctly that the draft now works in qualifying sessions? I think I've got enough squeeze left to draft but I'm not positive.
Pretty sure that while the *sound* is affected during the free run, the *draft* is not effective for the free run/qualifying.
:)
^and that sucks for qualifying situations because someone has leave the track to change the setting back before the race...and loses their qualifying time in the process.
Since Rick is good, if nobody requests the need to adjust the tuning of their car between Q and Race Start then we will just leave the qualifying and grid set up the way it is.
^and that sucks for qualifying situations because someone has leave the track to change the setting back before the race...and loses their qualifying time in the process.
Since Rick is good, if nobody requests the need to adjust the tuning of their car between Q and Race Start then we will just leave the qualifying and grid set up the way it is.
And if we start from a standstill, I'm likely to spin my rears, hit the wall, and end up last through the first turn anyway.
And if we start from a standstill, I'm likely to spin my rears, hit the wall, and end up last through the first turn anyway.
I would expect a rolling start. Anything else is just asking for disaster on that banking ..... :o
Also, also, with a two hour race, it really shouldn't matter where I, or anyone else, starts on the grid. And if we start from a standstill, I'm likely to spin my rears, hit the wall, and end up last through the first turn anyway.
I may not make this. To tell you the truth I totally forgot about it until Mr Pack sent his email. Things have been pretty crazy all year and especially since September so I can't remember shit. I have no tune, no mojo and not much chance of keeping up with you guys, er maybe just Rick, :laugh though he is never as slow as he complains. I may wait till the next race if I don't drop in cold at the last minute tomorrow.
Also, also, with a two hour race, it really shouldn't matter where I, or anyone else, starts on the grid. And if we start from a standstill, I'm likely to spin my rears, hit the wall, and end up last through the first turn anyway.
Personally I feel that it does make a difference, though I will admit more on some tracks than others. I would also be so bold as to say that DRC is perhaps a "pass happy" track.
Anyway....just over 24 hrs! I'm giddy with excitement!!! :-X
I may not make this. To tell you the truth I totally forgot about it until Mr Pack sent his email. Things have been pretty crazy all year and especially since September so I can't remember shit. I have no tune, no mojo and not much chance of keeping up with you guys, er maybe just Rick, :laugh though he is never as slow as he complains. I may wait till the next race if I don't drop in cold at the last minute tomorrow.
I can only get 529 hp. Is this correct?
Thanks for the support guys! THAT is why it this place is so great. 8)
Unprepared is my middle name! Don't like to practice, but i like to race! Will be there tonight if I'm still breathing! ;) (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I had a bspec driver run about 30 laps and topped out at 539 hp. :-\ You guys need to give me a 30 second head start. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Did you do and Oil Change?
All my tune did was guarantee me not to finish last. I'll be happy to share if anyone wants it, but I had nothing on Grill. I divide the blame into two parts. First, he was faster than me; and second, I was half a second faster in my lounge. Even with the draft and/or lower weight due to fuel consumption, I never came within a half second of laps I ran in my lounge. But ultimately, Grill dominated.
From last 7 or 8 on, I was playing catch up to Grill and Metal. Grill apparently wrapped this thing up early, because while I spent most of the race in 3nd place, with roughly 20 laps to go, I noticed I was in 2rd place and Metal was several spots behind me. I was shocked to be in 2st and figured Metal was going to try to run the final 20ish laps on one set of tires.
My original plan was to pit every 14 laps, but realized I could make up a lap or so each stint due to lower weight from fuel consumption. I was still in second til I pitted with 10 laps to go but figured I was going to catch Metal before the end, and hoped I'd catch Grill (wishful thinking).
I caught Metal with just a couple laps to go, but never sniffed Grill. He was far superior to anyone on the track. I thought I was supposed to have an advantage in the turns or on the straights, since we were in different cars, but that wasn't the case as he used talent to keep me behind him for all two hours.
It was a fun event and I enjoyed preparing for it (I particularly enjoy running at DRC). I have to say, two hours is a bit long for me. I'd love to have then enduros monthly, but if we're voting, I'd vote for something 60-90 minutes long...that seems to be my max.
I appreciate the time and efforts put forth by everyone to make this happen.
Sorry to bail but not being able to race with anybody really bothers me. There was no way I could continue for another hour like that. Usually when this happens I'm not driving a car with similar specs as the rest of the field. I didn't think I sucked that much, but maybe I do. :-\
It was good to hear that everyone else had fun.
this beast is a pig on fuel but capable of over 17 laps on tires my best time with the car is 1:42.182 peak times are posted around lap 5 of the tire cycle 14 lap schedule is recommended times drop significantly after that 46's. care must be given when accelerating off the hairpins not to spin.
i think practice is the answer. regarding tuning i only made tweaks to even tire wear once I figured my transmission wouldn't top out, after that i ran ALOT of laps. I also tested the other 2 cars we ran in the race both hitting mid 43's(after some tuning) to figure out what their characteristics(strengths/weaknesses) were. and honestly i thought the camaro was gonna be the car to beat after my test session wednesday it has amazing tire wear and fuel mileage. hate to say it but the corvette didn't impress me at all other than top speed because it melted the back tires. awsome driving Rick i was expecting camaro's to dominate the podium.
I'm almost always up for an enduro if I have the time...
but I really can't stand that track. So personally I would steer clear ;D
unless you are testing in a online lobby either yours or someone elses testing is mostly useless cause the physics are different.using the practice room is only viable for offline going from offline to online with some cars can seriously knock them out of balance(FT-86 for example).
unless you are testing in a on line lobby either yours or someone elses testing is mostly useless cause the physics are different.using the practice room is only viable for offline going from offline to on line with some cars can seriously knock them out of balance(FT-86 for example).
unless you are testing in a online lobby either yours or someone elses testing is mostly useless cause the physics are different.using the practice room is only viable for offline going from offline to online with some cars can seriously knock them out of balance(FT-86 for example).
C looks good to me
C looks good to me
I voted on the other thread...same as Turbo...C.
So while I think everyone seems in favor of a "repeat" of this event with identical cars I was doing some tinkering earlier and...
grabbed a bunch of newer American race cars if we want to ever do a more modern interpretation of this race.
Corvette C5.R - 640hp 1139kg 643PP
Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II - 618hp 1130kg 643PP
Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car - 603hp 1165 kg 641PP
Dodge Viper GTS-R Team ORECA - 618hp 1150kg 643PP
The above figures are all stock (PP is with max downforce). These cars' performance are just about identical. Without tuning, but setting their transmissions at 230 mph and using RS tires I got the following times: (order same as above)
1:40.439
1:41.223
1:40.029
1:40.470
I feel like using these cars for a future race at DRC could make for a lot of fun. I used RS tires for this brief test b/c if we do a shorter race in the future (per Rick's request) like around 90 minutes using RS tires would still keep the pit strategy as a big impact.
Love to hear your thoughts... :)
Rick, yes these vehicles will be raced stock. In my garage they are all at 643 PP (except one Ford GT at 641 which I suspect isn't fully broken in yet) so no additional power mods will be allowed. If, fully broken in, they all max out at 643PP that will be an enforced regulation in the lounge.
dlrws6, yes if they both have identical power/weight/PP either is fine
Revengel, nice choice. I'm leaning towards that one as well. (though at this point it's purely for the sound and looks. haven't driven it enough to form an opinion on its handling).
I'm ready to start looking at cars. Just to clarify, this is a stock/no tuning gig?
C) new cars (Viper, GT, Corvette), same track, shorter race (90 min) on RS tires
Thanks for the info. You're doing us all a great service :D
I played around with the new physics before heading into work. In one of my lounges I didn't notice any difference between the old version and the new update.
I was hoping to run some laps in the Viper, but I simply couldn't. I pitted after 3 laps and changed cars. My tune might suck, but it felt good and planted all the way around the track, it's simply not fast enough. I did an engine refresh and that gave me the 1 PP I was missing so I've got all three cars running at 643 (though the Ford will hit 645...more on that later).
After pitting, I grabbed the Ford to see the number of laps I could expect running a bit easier than last week. I lessened the downforce a bit up front and in the back to see if I could extend the tires a bit. Last week I went 16 laps and the last couple were pretty hairy, but I ran balls to the wall the whole time. This time I eased up a bit, stayed in a taller gear for the sweepers, and squeezed the throttle instead of trying to put it through the firewall.
My first almost spin was on lap 12, which I believe was the same as last time. However, I babied it a bit and got 18 laps out of the rears (still plenty on the fronts). I really think I could have gone 19 but the passenger side rear was way low and it was getting pretty squirrelly. The laps were very consistent and despite not really pushing the car, I cracked my first 1:37.
Unless someone is simply into Detroit iron, I can't see anyone taking the Viper in this race. It seems pretty far off the pace of the other two cars and doesn't make up for it in handling (maybe you can go 20+ laps on the tires and that might make it competitive).
I see this race coming down to the Corvette and the Ford GT LM. The Corvette is cake to drive and you'll get 20 laps easily (unfortunately, I'm going to have to run another session in the Corvette to see if babying the car on the new physics increases tire wear). The Ford is over a second a lap faster, but it's going to get a minimum of 2 laps less on the tires.
My best time in the Ford is 1:37.8 and my best in the Corvette is 1:39.1. I think I can see 37.5 in the Ford and 38.8 in the Corvette. Also, the Ford still has a couple PP to play with if we run the cars stock (the Corvette runs at 643 and the Ford at 645). I think we should run the cars at the PP they come with, meaning the Ford is a couple up on the other two cars, to offset the shitty tire wear and the fact that people are more likely to spin out in the Ford as the tire grip diminishes.
I think I found your post in another thread in this Enduro section.QuoteI played around with the new physics before heading into work. In one of my lounges I didn't notice any difference between the old version and the new update.
I was hoping to run some laps in the Viper, but I simply couldn't. I pitted after 3 laps and changed cars. My tune might suck, but it felt good and planted all the way around the track, it's simply not fast enough. I did an engine refresh and that gave me the 1 PP I was missing so I've got all three cars running at 643 (though the Ford will hit 645...more on that later).
After pitting, I grabbed the Ford to see the number of laps I could expect running a bit easier than last week. I lessened the downforce a bit up front and in the back to see if I could extend the tires a bit. Last week I went 16 laps and the last couple were pretty hairy, but I ran balls to the wall the whole time. This time I eased up a bit, stayed in a taller gear for the sweepers, and squeezed the throttle instead of trying to put it through the firewall.
My first almost spin was on lap 12, which I believe was the same as last time. However, I babied it a bit and got 18 laps out of the rears (still plenty on the fronts). I really think I could have gone 19 but the passenger side rear was way low and it was getting pretty squirrelly. The laps were very consistent and despite not really pushing the car, I cracked my first 1:37.
Unless someone is simply into Detroit iron, I can't see anyone taking the Viper in this race. It seems pretty far off the pace of the other two cars and doesn't make up for it in handling (maybe you can go 20+ laps on the tires and that might make it competitive).
I see this race coming down to the Corvette and the Ford GT LM. The Corvette is cake to drive and you'll get 20 laps easily (unfortunately, I'm going to have to run another session in the Corvette to see if babying the car on the new physics increases tire wear). The Ford is over a second a lap faster, but it's going to get a minimum of 2 laps less on the tires.
My best time in the Ford is 1:37.8 and my best in the Corvette is 1:39.1. I think I can see 37.5 in the Ford and 38.8 in the Corvette. Also, the Ford still has a couple PP to play with if we run the cars stock (the Corvette runs at 643 and the Ford at 645). I think we should run the cars at the PP they come with, meaning the Ford is a couple up on the other two cars, to offset the shitty tire wear and the fact that people are more likely to spin out in the Ford as the tire grip diminishes.
http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2116.0 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2116.0)
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can i play toooo?
can i play toooo?
Yes, but you have to drive the Viper and take mandatory pit stops.
can i play toooo?
Yes, but you have to drive the Viper and take mandatory pit stops.
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME. IN FACT I'LL DRIVE THE VIPER, BUT I REFUSE TO PIT. THAT'LL OUGHTA LEARN YOU!!!!
why yes, i suppose i wll be. god that was funny!!!!!
why yes, i suppose i wll be. god that was funny!!!!!
For those who have no idea what we're talking about, in the last 4-letter enduro, Spec, Hey and I were on a team. We'd worked on the car for what seemed like months and had a workable tune and a perfect strategy. We'd calculated how much fuel each lap took and how many pit stops we'd have to make, and armed with those numbers, how much fuel we needed to get at each pit stop to make it to the end.
Spec completely misunderstood the message and ran out of fuel...twice.
I'll use the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car see you on the 30rd if not sooner for some practice. :)
6 days till race day!
Can we get a tally of who is showing up? I feel like attendance won't be what it was last time.
I'm going to try and get some pre race laps in on Wednesday night. I'll trash dawson's lounge. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I'm going to try and get some pre race laps in on Wednesday night. I'll trash dawson's lounge. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I might be able to join in and break a few chairs.
I'm going to try and get some pre race laps in on Wednesday night. I'll trash dawson's lounge. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I might be able to join in and break a few chairs.
Are you getting fat and need to go on a diet?
I learned last night that I can't go 20 laps if I spin out 3 times in the first 10 laps.
I learned last night that I can't go 20 laps if I spin out 3 times in the first 10 laps.
I learned not to let Ricks95 get away in the first few laps. :)
I'll probably be here too .... not sure what car tho. Run a few laps a 1/2 hour before should be good .... :o
Going to try and make the race tomorrow! I will probably be in the Ford GT LM SPEC II test car if that is cool!
P.S. Not sure on the tires, but practicing on RM's!
also, how many laps is this race? i'm supposed to practice for tomorrows 4 letter word enduro tonight, but i really need to step out of the jag for a few minutes.
so it starts 6:oo pacific time. and prolly about 1:30 hours or so i figure? cool.
so it starts 6:oo pacific time. and prolly about 1:30 hours or so i figure? cool.
so it starts 6:oo pacific time. and prolly about 1:30 hours or so i figure? cool.
Thought you were to limit you car to 150 mph so it would give use real slow people a chance! ;D
so it starts 6:oo pacific time. and prolly about 1:30 hours or so i figure? cool.
Thought you were to limit you car to 150 mph so it would give use real slow people a chance! ;D
I thought Rick said he had to use a Viper?
so it starts 6:oo pacific time. and prolly about 1:30 hours or so i figure? cool.
Thought you were to limit you car to 150 mph so it would give use real slow people a chance! ;D
I thought Rick said he had to use a Viper?
I'm pretty sure I did say that, but in thinking about it, I'd prefer he drive the fast car...I'd hate to get my ass beat when he's driving a piece of shit and I'm in the go-to car.
Going to try and make the race tomorrow! I will probably be in the Ford GT LM SPEC II test car if that is cool!
P.S. Not sure on the tires, but practicing on RM's!
It's Racing Softs only. :)
Going to try and make the race tomorrow! I will probably be in the Ford GT LM SPEC II test car if that is cool!
P.S. Not sure on the tires, but practicing on RM's!
It's Racing Softs only. :)
The first readable line in the OP under events says ..... Racing Medium
I have not gone through 20 pages of this thread, so maybe I missed something in regards to tires. Hell, I dont even know the track that was decided on. Probably other things like hp/pp caps that I'm not sure of ...
Maybe its better if i give up on this one, and catch ya 'all next time .... :laugh
I have not gone through 20 pages of this thread, so maybe I missed something in regards to tires. Hell, I dont even know the track that was decided on. Probably other things like hp/pp caps that I'm not sure of ...
Maybe its better if i give up on this one, and catch ya 'all next time .... :laugh
what a blast, thanks guys for letting me join in on this.
And you for calling someone "some fucker" and not the name of the driver.
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Rick, we will find a time. Definitely will be in the new year though. And possibly different cars (than either we've already used).
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Rick, we will find a time. Definitely will be in the new year though. And possibly different cars (than either we've already used).
I think we should make it a monthly series at DRC. Different cars each time.
In thinking out loud, I wonder if it could be a year long series with 12 cars...drive a different one each time. Winner could be determined by either a points system based on each race or combine the times of each race for one overall winner based on time (highly unlikely that everyone involved would be able to make each race, so maybe a race or two get dropped and the winner is determined by his ten worst times...something like that).
That would include no oil change?
I would prefer 11 or 12, but 13 would work for me too.
Okay so far the sign up sheet is like so:
DudeTuna - LFA
dlrws6 - Z06
RickS95 - Z06
WolfpackS2k - SLS
GrumpyTuna - SLR
Grilled Tuna - SLR
So until we have more than 8 people I would prefer if nobody else picks the Z06. Keep in mind I've done extensive testing (IMO at least) that has determined that any of these cars are capable of winning. I'm confident the winner will be decided by who makes the fewest mistakes, not because of what car they're driving. Also, people can change which car they want to drive up to 2 weeks before the race date (TBD) as long as it's still available.
I will make another separate thread later today so that the individual race info will be easy to find for everyone.
Interesting analysis. Personally I didn't find the LFA to be the fastest and I found it to be the twitchiest vehicle. I would agree the Z06 is the slowest, but not by much.
New selection noted. Also stay tuned for a new thread just for the coming event...
I recorded similar times to what you posted above, for those 3 cars. I was able to record my fastest times in the LFA (mid to high 1:48s) however I was least consistent in that car and felt that the tire wear affected it more. The others (Benzes in particular) were much more consistent performers for me.
Are you guys using racing soft tires?
Are you guys using racing soft tires?
I think it calls for racing hards.