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Title: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! - COMPLETED
Post by: Wolfpack987 on November 28, 2011, 03:49:11 PM: The idea is to have competitive races once a month with a field full of different cars. Tuning would be limited so that investing a large amount of time is not necessary to having fun and be competitive. You would use the same car for every race so familiarity would exist.

I've picked out and tested 10 cars that once modified to a 480PP limit are similar in performance. I've posted a spreadsheet on Google Documents so if you send me your email addresses I will invite you to view it (or if someone wants to tell me how to hotlink it to this post I will do that). The cars would be allowed to reach the 480PP limit only through power increases. No weight reduction is allowed as this would give an unfair advantage to the AWD vehicles. And only minor power reduction would be allowed (just a few percentage). If you want to use an AWD vehicle you suffer the weight consequences. Limited tuning is the name of the game so allowable modifications are as follows:

-480PP upper limit
-Anything goes to hit the max power that PP will allow. Bolt-ons, engine upgrades, turbos, etc...anything goes
-No weight reduction
-No aerodynamic aids
-full drivetrain mods allowed, including adjustable LSD
-stock transmissions only
-race medium tires (or less if you want)
-height adjustable suspension only
-engines and chassis can be rebuilt if the cars are used and are eligible for restoration.

Eligible cars:
(Premium)
'97 R33 Skyline GT-R V Spec
'94 R32 Skyline GT-R V Spec II
'89 Fairlady Z 300ZX (Z32)
'91 Acura NSX
'91 Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R
(Standard)
'99 S2000 (US, J, EU doesn't matter)
'97 Supra RZ
'98 Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo (3000GT VR4 is allowable but heavier so I wouldn't bother)
'97 MR2 GT-S (not G-Limited)
'99 Honda NSX Type S Zero (any model year in the 90s is allowable but NOT the Type R)

Depending on how many people participate I would prefer no more than 1-2 entrants using the same vehicle (i.e. if we have 8 people racing then everyone use a different car, but if we have 12+ then duplicates are allowed). Since some of the cars are standard you might not have them easily accessible. If you want I can send any of the listed cars to anyone. I would require that everyone use the same car for every race, as this will minimize prep time. However I think it would be fair for everyone to have one "mulligan" where if they don't like the car they use for the first 1-2 races they can switch. But just once. I would want to start this race series in 3-4 weeks and hold an event once a month on a date that works best for everyone involved.

TRACK SCHEDULE (updated 4/30/12)

December - Tokyo (race winner - exXboxFan)
January 25th @ 9pm - Madrid - 40 laps (race winner - exXboxFan)
February 8th @ 9pm - Daytona Road Course - 25 laps (race winner - Feldynn)
February 22st @ 9pm - Mazda Laguna Seca - 30 laps (race winner - Turbo-Tuna)
March 7th @ 9pm - Circuit de la Sarthe 2005 (with chicanes)- 12 laps (race winner - Turbo-Tuna)
March 21st @ 9pm - Rome - 42 laps (race winner - WolfpackS2k)
April 4th @ 9pm - Monza - 31 laps (race winner - Turbo-Tuna)
April 18th @ 9pm - Indy Roadcourse - 35 laps (race winner - Metal)
May 2nd @ 9pm EST- Suzuka - 26 laps (race winner - Metal)

Qualifying will be held from 9 to 9:15 immediately before the race. After setting your qualifying time do NOT exit the track as your time will be erased and the game will start you at the back of the grid.

*****FINAL POINTS STANDINGS***** (race wins next to pts)
1 dawson864 - 640 (1)
3 LooneyTuna - 635
3 exXboxfan - 620 (2)
4 Turbo-Tuna - 560 (3)
5 PsychoPhreak - 520
6 metalfreak - 460 (2)
7 Feldynn - 395 (1)
8 cecollazo - 235
9 Cainius - 150 (retired from series, broken PS3)
10 skyfire3000 - 110
11 LastLeafFan - 100

******RESULTS******

RACE #1
1 exXboxFan Acura NSX '91 42:16.950 100
2 STVM_LooneyTuna Honda S2000 (US) '99 42:38.750 90
3 dawson864 Toyota Supra RZ '97 42:41.726 80
4 PsychoPhreak Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98 43:02.814 70
5 skyfire3000 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 43:37.222 60
6 Valrik Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 44:09.740 50
7 kngrsll Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 44:18.915 40
8 dannydigital Honda NSX Type S Zero '99 44:50.599 30
9 Canius Honda S2000 (US) '99 44:52.371 20
10 SonicZoom82 Acura NSX '91 45.03.629 10
11 blasphemour Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 -1 lap 5 (participation points)
12 chazz1x Acura NSX '91 -2 lap 5 (participation points)
13 Feldynn Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98 lobby disconnect 15 5 (participation points)
14 SnakeEyes427 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec (R33) '97 lobby disconnect lap 8 5 (participation points)

RACE #2
1st exXboxfan - Acura NSX '91 - 100 pts
2nd metalfreak - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 - 90
3rd LooneyTuna - Honda S2000 '99 - 80
4th dawson864 - Toyota Supra RZ '97 - 70
5th Feldynn - Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '98 - 60
6th SonicZoom82 - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec R33 '97 - 50
7th PsychoPhreak - Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '98 - 40
8th Canius - Honda S2000 '99 - 30
9th cecollazo - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 - 20
10th Fried_Tuna - Toyota Supra RX '97 - DNF - 10
11th Valrik - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II R32 '95 DNS - 5

RACE #3
1 Feldynn - FairladyZ 300ZX Twin Turbo '89 - 50:40.196 - 100 pts
2 exXboxFan - Acura NSX '91 - 50:44.443 + 4.247 - 90
3 Looney_Tuna - Honda S2000 '99 -52:03.832 + 1:23.636 - 80
4 PsychoPreak - FairladyZ 300ZX Twin Turbo '89 - 52:07.918 + 1:27.722 - 70
5 dawson864 - Toyota Supra RZ '97 - 52:12.651 + 1:32.455 - 60
6 Cainius - Honda S2000 '99 - 53:20.417 + 2:40.221 - 50
7 blasphemour - Honda NSX Type S Zero '99 - 53:34.211 + 2:54.015 - 40
8 LastLeafFan - Honda NSX Type S Zero '97 + 2 laps (?) - 30
9 Metal - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 - DNF - 20

Race #4
1 - Turbo-Tuna S2000 100 pts
2 - exXboxFan NSX +37.099 90
3 - PsychoPhreak Fairlady Z 300ZX + 1:01.325 80
4 - dawson864 Supra RZ +1:11.102 70
5 - metalfreak MR2 GT-S +1:20.391 60
6 - LastLeafFan NSX Type S Zero +1:42.847 50
7 - Feldynn Fairlady Z 300ZX +2:12.870 40
8 - Cainius S2000 + 1 lap 30
9 - Valrik Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) + 1 lap 20
10 - blasphemour NSX Type S Zero + 1 lap 10
11 - LooneyTuna S2000 DNF - disconnect on lap 2 5
12 - cecollazo Skyline GT-R V Spec (R33) DNF - disconnect on lap 1
13 - kngrsll Efini RX-7 Type R DNS - network failure pre-race

Race #5
1 Turbo-Tuna S2000 54:50.827 +100 pts
2 PsychoPhreak FairladyZ 300ZX + 13.018 90
3 exXboxFan Acura NSX + 18.048 80
4 Feldynn FairladyZ 300ZX + 38.981 70
5 dawson864 Supra RZ + 41.662 60
6 Looney_Tuna S2000 + 45.436 50
7 metalfreak MR2 GT-S +1:20.276 40
8 cecollazo Skyline GT-R (R33) + 1:21.577 30
9 Cainius S2000 + 2:02.385 20
10 LastLeafFan NSX Type S Zero DNF 10

Race #6
1 dawson864 Acura NSX 53:59.713 +100 pts
2 Turbo-Tuna S2000 + 0.856 90
3 exXboxFan Acura NSX + 6.497 80
4 LooneyTuna S2000 + 24.407 70
5 metalfreak MR2 GT-S + 53.396 60
6 Feldynn FairladyZ 300ZX +1:13.234 50
7 PsychoPhreak FairladyZ 300ZX +1:31.028 40
8 cecollazo Skyline GT-R R33 +1:56.125 30
9 SonicZoom82 Skyline GT-R R33 +2:43.903 20
10 LastLeafFan NSX Type S Zero DNF 10

Race #7
1 Turbo-Tuna - S2000 1:03.55.028 +100 pts
2 Looney_Tuna - S2000 +02.751 90
3 exXboxFan - Acura NSX +06.353 80
4 PsychoPhreak - FairladyZ 300ZX +47.271 70
5 dawson864 - Acura NSX +1:23.698 60
6 cecollazo - Skyline GT-R R33 +1:45.707 50
7 DudeTuna - NSX Type S Zero DNF 40

Race #8
1) Metal
2) WolfpackS2k +0.038
3) Turbo-Tuna ~+5.834
4) LooneyTuna ~ +35.xxx
5) cecollazo + 1 lap
6) GTP_Rylvir
7) skyfire3000 (DNF)

Final Race , #9
1) Metal - 1.00:11.969
2) LooneyTuna - + 9.476
3) TurboTuna - +23.265
4) Feldynn - +1:03.074
5) TunaPhreak + 1:16.924
6) dawson864 + 1:24.511
7) cecollazo + 2:19.618

Edited to add evnets to calander
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: DudeTuna on November 28, 2011, 04:40:31 PM: Without knowing time or day, I'll do it if I can make it.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wiz on November 28, 2011, 04:46:17 PM: Any idea on the duration of each race?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LR-MR-maxking39 on November 28, 2011, 07:28:08 PM: venues?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on November 28, 2011, 09:15:15 PM: races would be 45 minutes long. I want them long enough for ~~tear~~ tire wear to be a significant factor otherwise the mid-rear cars will have a significant advantage.

as to venues I don't have a list in mind however I'd favor tracks that exist in real life as well as pass friendly tracks to keep things interesting.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on November 29, 2011, 07:34:18 AM: Here's a link to a Google document displaying the testing information I gathered. For the lap times I took best of 5 laps.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0At_V0bF1PUZidE92aDBnQWFfSmV1MzQ2SG9IWWlneUE&hl=en_US#gid=0
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on November 29, 2011, 07:34:29 AM: I might be available as field filler. ::)

I drove the 2006 S2000 yesterday for seasonals and I loved it. I would try the 1999 version.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on November 29, 2011, 07:54:06 AM: What a great opportunity to bring out the Supra RZ. Love that car.

I too may be interested pending further info. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: RoninTuna on November 29, 2011, 08:40:22 AM: Not sure if I am interested, the only Japanese car from the 90's I enjoy is not elidgable.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on November 30, 2011, 02:03:52 PM: ^Sorry Ronin! I wanted to keep the car list relatively short, well rounded and all 2 door coupes!

I'm gonna start this in a few weeks (just once a month races though). Figure 15 minutes practice/qualifying (time depends on the circuit length) and then we'll line up for a 45 min race. Any specific questions just ask. If you want to participate please state which days of December are NOT good for you :D

I'll be out of town from tonight through Sunday so I most likely will not be around till then.

Have a great weekend everyone :jimi:
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on November 30, 2011, 02:44:04 PM: Party at Wolfpack's house. :yess
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: DudeTuna on November 30, 2011, 03:08:08 PM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on November 30, 2011, 02:44:04 PM

Party at Wolfpack's house. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/smiley83yes.gif)

this^
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: RoninTuna on November 30, 2011, 05:22:40 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on November 30, 2011, 02:03:52 PM
^Sorry Ronin! I wanted to keep the car list relatively short, well rounded and all 2 door coupes!

I'm gonna start this in a few weeks (just once a month races though). Figure 15 minutes practice/qualifying (time depends on the circuit length) and then we'll line up for a 45 min race. Any specific questions just ask. If you want to participate please state which days of December are NOT good for you :D

I'll be out of town from tonight through Sunday so I most likely will not be around till then.

Have a great weekend everyone :jimi:

but the 99 R-34 GTR fits the well rounded two door coups.....
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 05, 2011, 04:00:38 PM: Sigh...I understand! And based on your sig I'm not surprised you said that, lol. Thing is, I don't want 1/3rd of the field to be Skylines (as well as AWD) so I limited it to the R32 and R33. I also shot down the '98 Impreza WRX Sti 2 door b/c I just want a few AWD cars involved. Lemme see if that car's inline (performance wise) with the others and if so we can bring it in. After all, when possible I do like to please as many people as I can.

Quote from: LooneyTuna on November 30, 2011, 02:44:04 PM

Party at Wolfpack's house. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/smiley83yes.gif)

LMAO. Well, I was up North...and I was able to convince TunaPhreak to come into Manhattan Saturday evening for some heavy drinking ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: RickS95 on December 05, 2011, 04:14:13 PM: If this train needs a caboose, let me know. 480 PP is about as fast as I can go without hurting myself or someone else.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 06, 2011, 08:43:17 AM: Thanks for the info. I'll post something meaningful tonight, as last night I was just doing tasks and chores that had to be done after my 4 day trip, bleh.

Tonight will be fun stuff only!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LR-MR-maxking39 on December 06, 2011, 09:45:34 PM: What about including a 1990 Mazda RX-7 GTX?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 06, 2011, 10:32:54 PM: Let me get back to you on that, but I'm leaning towards no for simplicity's sake.

Okay, from what I'm hearing the following people are interested:

DudeTuna
LooneyTuna - S2000
SplitFriedBrindle - Supra RZ
RickS95
exXboxFan
TunaPhreak

Ronin, the R34 is simply too good. Is there another vehicle you'd be happy with?

Between this forum and some friends off another one (and some friends in general) I have 17 people total interested at this point. That's (obviously) over the limit of 16 but I don't think everyone will show up for whatever date is picked.

2 people have already asked for the R33 Skyline GTR so consider that one taken.

The first track will be Tokyo, 22 laps.

Based on time frames I've been given how is 915pm EST on December 15th? Or December 20th at the same time? I realize this is the same nights as the TuTu and ShoSho but then again this forum has something going on almost every night of the week!

Lemme know!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on December 07, 2011, 07:25:57 AM: Those times are good for me. 8)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: DudeTuna on December 07, 2011, 06:12:33 PM: Crap sorry neither day is good. Is a Wednesday a possibility?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 08, 2011, 07:17:54 AM: It probably is, but in general I try to avoid Wednesdays as that seems to be when Sony does PSN or GT5 updates.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: DudeTuna on December 08, 2011, 09:40:35 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on December 08, 2011, 07:17:54 AM
It probably is, but in general I try to avoid Wednesdays as that seems to be when Sony does PSN or GT5 updates.

Okay, no worries.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 08, 2011, 01:20:11 PM: This may be a Japanese car series, but the events will be global!

The track list is as follows:

December - Tokyo
January - Madrid
February - Daytona Roadcourse
March - Laguna Seca
April - Circuit de la Sarthe
May - Rome
June - Monza
July - Indy Roadcourse
August - Suzuka
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 08, 2011, 06:15:40 PM: Gonna be on after 9 tonight doing some shakedown runs if anyone wants to join in :P
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 08, 2011, 07:48:59 PM: Quote from: LR-MR-maxking39 on December 06, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
What about including a 1990 Mazda RX-7 GTX?

I'd prefer if you didn't use this car, to keep the selection of vehicles down, however after testing it out it seems mid pack and not an unfair advantage of any kind. So if you insist you can.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 11, 2011, 04:54:41 PM: First race is this Thursday the 15th, qualifying/practice starts at 9. Race is at 915.

A few people have issue with the time so we're doing a consolation race as well, on Tuesday the 20th (same times).

Racing both days is cool if you like, but the 15th is the one I'm aiming to have most people attend.

The usual rules:

-ABS = 1 and TC allowed
-mild damage
-no penalties
-weak slipstream
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Feldynn on December 12, 2011, 12:39:51 AM: Is there room for one more? If so I might like to come in the Mitsubishi GTO, I think I have a '98 one but if not would one of the older ones be acceptable?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: DudeTuna on December 12, 2011, 09:51:59 AM: Scratch me as I will not be able to make it this month. Sorry.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 12, 2011, 03:47:38 PM: Feldynn we still have room! And I believe nobody is using a GTO yet. Bring it! ^-^
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Feldynn on December 13, 2011, 01:33:54 PM: I checked my storage warehouse and it seems I only have the '98 Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR, is that going to be ok?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 14, 2011, 09:28:44 AM: Yeah that's perfect.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on December 14, 2011, 10:26:24 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on December 14, 2011, 09:28:44 AM
Yeah that's perfect.

can you update the OP to include who is using which car? That will make it easier to pick something else.

thanks.

so qualifying at 9:15? that would work perfectly for me (if kid goes to sleep when he's told)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 14, 2011, 12:58:23 PM: Some people are being difficult getting back to me, but I think the only cars that are spoken for are the S2000, Supra RZ and Efini RX7. I'm also redoing this race on Tuesday for some people that can't attend Thursday's evnet and in that race the R33 Skyline is spoken for.

To be on the safe side give yourself a first and second choice. If there's a conflict of several people wanting to use the same car whoever declared their intentions first will be given the nod.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on December 15, 2011, 07:33:00 PM: trying to make it there for 9:00 tonight Might be more like 9:15.

I'll most likely have the Acura NSX Premium
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 15, 2011, 07:51:14 PM: Sounds good Ex!

I just hope I can make it there myself! I've been having repeated server errors. I'm not being kicked off PSN, just the GT5 server. This is not good :(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on December 15, 2011, 07:56:33 PM: Do you have me? STVM_LooneyTuna? LOL I am going on now to see
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Feldynn on December 15, 2011, 10:54:45 PM: Great opening race Wolfpack! Decent turn out and a good spread of cars too made for some great racing moments! There were a few spin outs here and there but nothing major resulted, I think everyone did a great job of racing clean but respectfully hard.

I know Dawson and I had some great side by side flip flop action for a few laps as I did with Looney too before my untimely disconnection from the lobby, judging by where Looney and Dawson where when I returned I think the three of us would have had a pretty good battle for 2nth toward the end of the race.

Car wise I think the Mitsubishi GTO is quite the underrated little car, it's almost definitely the heaviest of the bunch weighing in at 1670kg or so but aside from a bit of slightly excessive tire wear (that might be due to my setup or driving style) I thought it handled surprisingly well. It did feel like a heavy car but it didn't drive like one if that makes sense, I felt like I could through it's weight around corners quite easily without it bogging down like a truck.

Thanks for setting it up Wolfpack, looking forward to the next race!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on December 16, 2011, 07:50:41 AM: Quote from: Feldynn on December 15, 2011, 10:54:45 PM
Great opening race Wolfpack! Decent turn out and a good spread of cars too made for some great racing moments! There were a few spin outs here and there but nothing major resulted, I think everyone did a great job of racing clean but respectfully hard.

Thanks for setting it up Wolfpack, looking forward to the next race!

:stoopid:

Speaking of the spin outs, the first I drove through the smoke "Days of Thunder" style. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) I got lucky on that one, but the next lap I ended up crashing into Danny after his spin out but was only hobbled briefly.

After getting spun out myself in the early going I was able to claw back just after many of us pitted around lap 13. It wasn't long after that when a bunch of us were racing in a pack when Feldynn unfortunately got disconnected. I chased Wolfpack down after several good laps and was able to stay ahead by avoiding my inevitable big mistake that I seem to have every race.

ExXbox drove away with it by staying ahead of the early crashes and putting in some of the best laps, effortlessly, while giving driving tips. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 16, 2011, 08:44:07 AM: Thanks for the kind words fellas! It is most appreciated and I was pretty happy with the turnout, especially since I know of 4 other people that want to participate but could not make this date. The lobby disconnects were quite unfortunate (Feldynn wasn't the only victim). I was having GT5 server issues myself so I consider myself lucky for not being booted.

I really enjoyed seeing such a variety of 90s Japanese sports cars in one race. And it was great to have them all so closely matched. LooneyTuna and ExXboxFan, hats off to you 2 for some excellent driving. If Looney hadn't been the helpless victim of an early crash I'd imagine he could have challenged for the lead! As to me, I think I was driving the Supra to the best of my ability and 90% of my lap times varied by less than 1-2 seconds (and were just barely off my fastest lap time).

Without further ado here are last night's results:

   PSN Car Time    Gap Points
1 exXboxFan Acura NSX '91 42:16.950    -- 100
2 STVM_LooneyTuna Honda S2000 (US) '99 42:38.750    +21.000 90
3 dawson864 Toyota Supra RZ '97 42:41.726    +24.776    80
4 PsychoPhreak Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98 43:02.814    +45.864 70
5 skyfire3000 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 43:37.222    +1:20.272    60
6 Valrik Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 44:09.740    +1:52.790    50
7 dannydigital Honda NSX Type S Zero '99 44:50.599    +2:33.649    40
8 blasphemour Mazda efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 time expired 30
9 Feldynn Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98 lobby disconnect around lap 14 I think 20
10 SnakeEyes427 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec (R33) '97 lobby disconnect around lap 8 (maybe?) 10

I look forward to seeing you guys for the next event in January. As we had 10 people for this race we still have room for more so if you'd like to join in let me know!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on December 16, 2011, 08:45:58 AM: thanks dawson/wolfpack for the great race. it was nice meeting some new people, but I think all the "voices" were familiar ones. Good chit-chat alwasy keeps a race fun. Sometimes the quiet ones are good racing, but boring online interaction.

though, as I noted toward the end of the race, my "chit-chat" lap was a full five seconds slower than my "head down and concentrate" lap that preceeded it. I buckled down and pulled another one of those fast laps before the end.

1:31.0 is the time to beat on Tokyo with an NSX to spec. if anyone wants to try it.

There was a varied field talent-wise, so it was cool in that it provided something for everyone.

Looney finally clawed his way up to the front, and he kept me at around 18.xxx seconds for a few laps. I then had my "head down" moment and pulled it to over 21sec by the end.

Finally got that victory toke at the end ;) 8)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 28, 2011, 07:56:23 AM: Sorry I haven't updated the points standing (trying to figure out a way to combine the results of the two "event 1" races). Been busy with the holidays but I'll have it figured soon. Oh and don't worry ex-Eboxfan, you will be in 1st ;D

Moving forward Race #2 is to be held in January between the 10th and 25th. As mentioned before the course will be the Madrid city circuit. Please state which day works best for you (or alternately if you're mostly free state which day(s) does NOT work for you).

Event length will be 40 laps, with the same rules as before.

(I sent out a group email regarding this as well)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on December 28, 2011, 10:30:01 PM: i'd be willing to join in if there's room! my best days are: mon, wed before 10:30p, thu before 10:30p and fri. i'll have to poke around with the car list and see what car i would be running.

edit: forgot to mention, all those times are EST. thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on December 29, 2011, 07:45:46 AM: Friday and Saturday are ususally the hardest for me. I should be able to attend any day if push comes to shove with enough notice.

Hope to see you Metal. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 29, 2011, 09:42:03 AM: LooneyTuna I don't like doing events on Friday or Saturday nights either so we'll try to avoid that.

Metal, do you mean you can only play those nights till 1030pm? Or that the event must start by then? Either way I don't think it'll be a problem. Metal we would love to have you aboard. At this point I technically have 16 people signed up. However I am sure that come the day of the race there is always 1-2 people that can't make it.

Cars that are still available for use are as follows:
'97 Supra RZ
'97 MR2 GT-S
'91 Efini RX-7 Type R
'89 Fairlady Z 300ZX Twin Turbo

Refer back to the first page of this thread for all the rules and regulations. Also add me as a friend on PSN; name is dawson864
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on December 29, 2011, 10:50:58 AM: Sorry for my absence lately, I will be able to start making the races from here on out. Holidays were busy for me.

If I haven't been bumped yet that is. :-[
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 29, 2011, 10:59:39 AM: Ah, yes we can still have you! I had thought previously that you were MIA for good but welcome back! Do you still want to use the Supra RZ?

If so then Metal, the Supra is off the table ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on December 29, 2011, 12:34:55 PM: I would like to, but if its an issue, I will shop for something else.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 29, 2011, 12:44:22 PM: You can have it as to date I'm the only other person using it.

Supra's off the table folks!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on December 29, 2011, 02:33:02 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on December 29, 2011, 09:42:03 AM
LooneyTuna I don't like doing events on Friday or Saturday nights either so we'll try to avoid that.

Metal, do you mean you can only play those nights till 1030pm? Or that the event must start by then? Either way I don't think it'll be a problem. Metal we would love to have you aboard. At this point I technically have 16 people signed up. However I am sure that come the day of the race there is always 1-2 people that can't make it.

I would have to leave by that time. Sorry for the lack of clarity lol. Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 29, 2011, 08:35:01 PM: The "second coming" of race #1, held last Tuesday (the 20th) was a fun event with 7 participants (3 of whom had already done the race back on the 15th). The results are as follows:

1st - dawson864 - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 (no points)
2nd - kngrsll - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II '95
3rd - Valrik - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II '95 (no points)
4th - Cainius - Honda S2000 '99
5th - SonicZoom82 - Acura NSX '91(has to change car)
6th - blasphemour - Acura NSX '91 (no points and has to change car)
7th - chazz1x - Acura NSX '91 (has to change car)

I'm not sure how to integrate points from this race with the race held on the 15th. Obviously points do not count twice for people that participated in both (if you were in Race 1 then points count from that race. The second one gives you no points). The question is what to do with the people that weren't in race "1", that being kngrsll, Cainius, SonicZoom and Chazz1x.

I have an idea of how to integrate them but I'm open for any suggestions...?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on December 29, 2011, 10:26:22 PM: keep the best of the two results and throw the other one out?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on December 30, 2011, 07:58:17 AM: Take an average from both races?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on December 30, 2011, 10:08:26 AM: Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on December 29, 2011, 10:50:58 AM
Sorry for my absence lately, I will be able to start making the races from here on out. Holidays were busy for me.

If I haven't been bumped yet that is. :-[

there goes my lead... DOH! At least the replays will be instructional ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on December 30, 2011, 10:11:59 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on December 29, 2011, 08:35:01 PM
The "second coming" of race #1, held last Tuesday (the 20th) was a fun event with 7 participants (3 of whom had already done the race back on the 15th). The results are as follows:

1st - dawson864 - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97 (no points)
2nd - kngrsll - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II '95
3rd - Valrik - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec II '95 (no points)
4th - Cainius - Honda S2000 '99
5th - SonicZoom82 - Acura NSX '91(has to change car)
6th - blasphemour - Acura NSX '91 (no points and has to change car)
7th - chazz1x - Acura NSX '91 (has to change car)

I'm not sure how to integrate points from this race with the race held on the 15th. Obviously points do not count twice for people that participated in both (if you were in Race 1 then points count from that race. The second one gives you no points). The question is what to do with the people that weren't in race "1", that being kngrsll, Cainius, SonicZoom and Chazz1x.

I have an idea of how to integrate them but I'm open for any suggestions...?

if in the first race, count as official time. if only able to attend the 2nd race, count that as official time. then see where overall finishing time stacks compared to first race.

so my first place of race #1 compared to the highest placing newcomer in race 2 and see who has the quicker finishing time...

going forward though, two races is too confusing unless there are two divisions with qualifying.

EDIT: Oh, and if it's on a Weeknight, please do at least 9:15 or 9:30 so I can put kid to bed and have time to warm up.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on December 30, 2011, 07:05:47 PM: Yeah going forward there will NOT be two races like this first go around.

exXboxfan, I like your idea of using total time. How do you view the race results from the replay? I saved the replay but can't seem to view the full results.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on December 31, 2011, 06:07:39 PM: Wolfpack, i should have my car selection wrapped up within the next couple days. i have the 1st and the 2nd off so plenty of time for testing!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 01, 2012, 05:56:51 PM: As per exXboxFan's suggestion the two race results from Event 1 will be merged together via time. Going forward there will be just one race (no make up event) so I hope we can find a date that works for everyone (or close to it). Below are the results going forward:

1 exXboxFan Acura NSX '91 42:16.950 100
2 STVM_LooneyTuna Honda S2000 (US) '99 42:38.750 90
3 dawson864 Toyota Supra RZ '97 42:41.726 80
4 PsychoPhreak Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98 43:02.814 70
5 skyfire3000 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 43:37.222 60
6 Valrik Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 44:09.740 50
7 kngrsll Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) '95 44:18.915 40
8 dannydigital Honda NSX Type S Zero '99 44:50.599 30
9 Canius Honda S2000 (US) '99 44:52.371 20
10 SonicZoom82 Acura NSX '91 45.03.629 10
11 blasphemour Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R (FD) '91 -1 lap 5 (participation points)
12 chazz1x Acura NSX '91 -2 lap 5 (participation points)
13 Feldynn Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98 lobby disconnect 15 5 (participation points)
14 SnakeEyes427 Nissan Skyline GT-R V Spec (R33) '97 lobby disconnect lap 8 5 (participation points)

Italics reflect entrants who will be changing cars (permanently) from hereon out.

A fun stat that I thought I'd throw up are everyone's fastest laps:

exXboxfan - 1:51.014
STVM_LooneyTuna - 1:51.811
dawson864 - 1:52.963 (MR2)
PsychoPhreak - 1:52.971
Feldynn - 1:53.004
dannydigitl - 1:53.106
dawson864 - 1:53.367 (Supra)
Canius - 1:53.770
skyfire3000 - 1:53.818
kngrsll - 1:54.265
blasphemour - 1:54.297 (NSX)
SonicZoom82 - 1:54.322
blashpemour - 1:55.106 (RX7)
SnakeEyes427 - 1:55.164
Valrik - 1:56.099
chazz1x - 2:00.153

I think that seeing how close most of the fastest lap times are is a testament to how closely matched these different cars are.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on January 01, 2012, 06:35:33 PM: I'll take the mr-2 thank ya!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 03, 2012, 02:44:24 PM: I haven't tried looking at the end of a replay to see finishing time, and of course it just resets the replay for ya...

how did you manage getting the times out? I'm going to need to know this for something else I'm working on.

Thanks!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 03, 2012, 02:54:54 PM: ^^Noted Metal. MR2 it is!

^Well that is an interesting thing. For the first race (the one you in which you were the victor) I was smart enough to 1) set the "waiting" period at the end to the maximum of 2:30:00 and 2) took a screen shot (with my camera) of the results screen, haha. For the 2nd race I forgot to extend the "waiting" period so it was on the default 30 seconds which unfortunately cut off a lot of participants last lap. However nobody seemed to complain that it robbed them of the opportunity to overtake anyone. Of course that still left me with several participants without a final time. I extrapolated that data with a "best" guess by pausing the reply after the winner crossed the finish line and, based on viewing the full information screen, calculated how far back people were based on the 3 timing intervals featured for the Tokyo circuit. The times I used for the intervals were the winner's times so in most cases I helped everyone out (though it was fair b/c it was across the board). I realize this may be confusing.

Bottom line, always take a screen shot!!! (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 04, 2012, 01:43:56 PM: we need a better way to do this. mastergt has been talking about this for a while... I hope someone at PD listens eventually.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 04, 2012, 02:47:14 PM: so it looks like we're at madrid next, right? and that's the full madrid?

also can you confirm the date yet? will it be the 2nd or 3rd thursday of each month?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 04, 2012, 09:49:55 PM: Yup Madrid, in the forward direction.

Based on everyone's feedback I think the next race will be January 25th (a Wednesday). I know it's more than a month after the last race, but it was the best fit. I'm still waiting on the feedback of ONE person to confirm to me that he's free then (PITA since he works in a hospital) but that should be the date I think :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 05, 2012, 10:25:09 AM: January 25th is the next race date. Figure 915 for start time, practice and qualifying before that. (In my lounge)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 20, 2012, 03:33:23 PM: BUMP BUMP BUMP

The next race is this coming Wednesday night at 9pm (with practice before that). Be there or be square! (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 20, 2012, 03:56:44 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 20, 2012, 03:33:23 PM
BUMP BUMP BUMP

The next race is this coming Wednesday night at 9pm (with practice before that). Be there or be square! (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

Speaking of practice. :o
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on January 20, 2012, 06:13:35 PM: No kidding! Tuna cup sun, SPA Enduro on wed, and this on thur....i'm gonna be tired lol...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 21, 2012, 06:44:38 PM: Quote from: Metal on January 20, 2012, 06:13:35 PM
No kidding! Tuna cup sun, SPA Enduro on wed, and this on thur....i'm gonna be tired lol...

Hey now, THIS race is on Wednesday and Spa Enduro is Thursday. Don't be looking in the wrong lounge on Wednesday now (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 22, 2012, 12:56:24 AM: how many laps at Madrid, and can you remind me where to see the track schedule? Or are you deciding that month by month?

thanks
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 22, 2012, 09:39:51 AM: Crap! Haven't turned a lap yet. :(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 22, 2012, 09:42:24 AM: Hey man it's 40 laps at Madrid. You should have gotten an email about it from me a few weeks ago? My outbox says the 5th. Lemme know if you didn't get that. ;D

I thought I posted the schedule in this thread, if not I apologize!

December - Tokyo
January - Madrid
February - Daytona Roadcourse
March - Laguna Seca
April - Circuit de la Sarthe
May - Rome
June - Monza
July - Indy Roadcourse
August - Suzuka
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 23, 2012, 09:17:20 AM: Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 22, 2012, 09:39:51 AM
Crap! Haven't turned a lap yet. :(

lol... please don't. Take masterGT's black belt and tie it around your eyes. Then hit gas, GO!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 23, 2012, 09:19:06 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 22, 2012, 09:42:24 AM
Hey man it's 40 laps at Madrid. You should have gotten an email about it from me a few weeks ago? My outbox says the 5th. Lemme know if you didn't get that. ;D

I thought I posted the schedule in this thread, if not I apologize!

December - Tokyo
January - Madrid
February - Daytona Roadcourse
March - Laguna Seca
April - Circuit de la Sarthe
May - Rome
June - Monza
July - Indy Roadcourse
August - Suzuka

yea you probably did send it and post it, but it's hard to locate is my thing. it would help if you could post all dates, times, tracks in the OP.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 23, 2012, 09:30:42 AM: ^done!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wiz on January 23, 2012, 04:28:37 PM: I'm fairly certain I won't be able to make this but on the off chance that I do, put me down for the '97 MR2 GT-S.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 24, 2012, 07:51:28 AM: Will there be a short "pre-race" to check server race conditions. Would be a good practice anyway.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 24, 2012, 09:02:45 AM: i concur
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 24, 2012, 09:26:03 AM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on January 24, 2012, 07:51:28 AM
Will there be a short "pre-race" to check server race conditions. Would be a good practice anyway.

That's a good point. We will do that; would have to have a Miata Cup repeat :(

TunaWiz, you are welcome to join if the field is not full (It supposedly is but there are always a few who cannot make it).
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 24, 2012, 04:46:07 PM: 450 or 480pp? Im confused. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 25, 2012, 07:40:05 AM: 480! ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 07:59:52 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 25, 2012, 07:40:05 AM
480! ;D

:o

My car is at 450.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 25, 2012, 09:35:49 AM: Whaaaaa? Surely your S2000 was set to 480PP for the first race! I mean you came in 2nd and smoked most of the field (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

What's going on over there... :lolz
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 09:40:37 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 25, 2012, 09:35:49 AM
Whaaaaa? Surely your S2000 was set to 480PP for the first race! I mean you came in 2nd and smoked most of the field (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

What's going on over there... (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)

Not sure, I could have brought it down for another evnet. :-\ (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

I will see how much I can improve my best time tonight. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 25, 2012, 09:52:53 AM: thankfully feldynn stopped by a room I was practicing in last night and reminded me we're not supposed to have the full trans on it. I must have added one since last time and forgot about it.

I was running 1:28.9 as a best with a tuned trans, now without it it's more like 1:30. I'll see if I can bring it down before then.

The main thing for people not too comfortable with this track (MADRID) is to remember to brake when you know you need to, and as tires wear, to brake even earlier. Coming to a dead-stop against a wall is going to hurt your chances more than braking a little too much.

I was able to get around 13 laps without suffering too much on tires. But that was with some skids and wall smacks ;)

This race MIGHT be possible to complete with just one pit stop, but most will need two I think. That is assuming Race Mediums cannot be swapped for Hards.. .correct?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 25, 2012, 10:03:38 AM: ^&^^I noticed you fellas practicing online last night after my 10pm race :P

Before PD updated GT5 and changed tire wear characteristics, it was a no brainer to use the stickiest tire allowed. Now that that has changed it is my feeling that you can use whatever tire compound you want up to the stickiest compound allowed. So for this race feel free to use race hard if you like.

Since that line of thinking might put you slightly behind the 8 ball (given that the race is tonight) I will offer up some tire data that I came up with a few weeks ago. For my car, the Supra, I was able to go 17 laps on one set of Race Medium Tires. For Race Hard tires I managed 25 laps. Of course with all the tight turns the RH tires were about 2-3 seconds per lap slower for me.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Feldynn on January 25, 2012, 10:05:56 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 25, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
I was able to get around 13 laps without suffering too much on tires. But that was with some skids and wall smacks ;)

This race MIGHT be possible to complete with just one pit stop, but most will need two I think. That is assuming Race Mediums cannot be swapped for Hards.. .correct?

Sadly the Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo isn't nearly as tire friendly, we ran an 8 lap race last night and I was down to 50% tires on the front and down a good 2-3 seconds a lap by the end. I might be able to tinker with my setup and squeeze a little more out of them but that's the price I pay for driving a hippo :), on the bright side though considering it is such a lumbering beast I thought it handled surprisingly well around Madrid.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 25, 2012, 10:09:24 AM: This is a bit of a tight circuit, however further down the schedule we have quite a few tracks coming up with plenty of wide open spaces (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 10:10:15 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 25, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
it's more like 1:30.

My best at 450pp was 132.257.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 25, 2012, 10:12:20 AM: FML, that's less than a second off my best period :-X

Good thing the Supra has a big ass, with which to block others! :D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Feldynn on January 25, 2012, 10:29:13 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 25, 2012, 10:12:20 AM
FML, that's less than a second off my best period :-X

Good thing the Supra has a big ass, with which to block others! :D

Hmmm, maybe it's a good thing I'm in the GTO then.. if I can get a decent jump off the line it might not be easy for people to get by with my big blue hippo lurching all over the track ;D.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 25, 2012, 10:57:00 AM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 10:10:15 AM
Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 25, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
it's more like 1:30.

My best at 450pp was 132.257.

you do know by now that it's supoposed to be 480, right? or is that what you meant?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 11:13:48 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 25, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
Quote from: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 10:10:15 AM
Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 25, 2012, 09:52:53 AM
it's more like 1:30.

My best at 450pp was 132.257.

you do know by now that it's supoposed to be 480, right? or is that what you meant?

Yes and yes. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 25, 2012, 11:53:41 AM: 1:29.6
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 25, 2012, 01:40:38 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 25, 2012, 11:53:41 AM
1:29.6

(http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lnx6s83du61qga9zvo1_400.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on January 25, 2012, 10:48:22 PM: That was fun!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 26, 2012, 07:39:00 AM: Once again it was a pleasure to race with everyone last night. There didn't appear to be any lag, but at least one racer, Baked, got booted during the race. :(

Goos times!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 26, 2012, 08:03:07 AM: it was fried. not sure what happened.

but yea it was fun!

madrid is one of the only places I know almost as well or as well as the mega fast dudes, due to being in some races with some fast dudes and studying what they did after the fact. it would have been a good showdown if there weren't so many collisions and stuff.

lag was okay. during the pre-race it seemed a little jumpy, and during the main race there was a point where fried got bumped to the outside of the wide circle at the end of the course, and then suddenly appeared to me way ahead of where he was a milisecond before.

so there was SOME lag. But lag isn't really the issue with this lounge bug, as reported by GTP.

because I saw an improvement after unplugging my mic on Sunday for tuna cup, I decided to go mic silent on this race, and the sluggish buggy feeling was never there. but how many did we even have in the race. was it 10 or so?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 26, 2012, 10:28:51 AM: We started with 10 and ended with 9.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 26, 2012, 11:14:18 AM: I have a questions...

Is there any qualifying procedure, or do you just wing it for this evnet?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 26, 2012, 11:20:29 AM: Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 26, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
I have a questions...

Is there any qualifying procedure, or do you just wing it for this evnet?

There is supposed to be 15 minute qualifying right before the race. We wanted to check for a lag bug last night and I guess that was used as qualifying? :-\ I thought it was strange what happened, but whatever.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 26, 2012, 12:20:30 PM: I apologize for the qualifying procedure (or lack thereof). Running that short 4 lap sortie was good to determine if any bugs were present (thankfully not) but then by the time that was over it was just around 915 and Metal had said he couldn't really hang around past 10 (stated in previous posts). So that's how we came to that start.

I sincerely hope that nobody was upset by that.

Starting with the next race, Daytona Road Course, we will line up on the grid based on qualifying lap times (viewed through the lounge) and then start that way.

Fried, really sorry to see you get disco'd (I assume that's what happened). After you were gone I was a Supra Wolfpack of one :'(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 26, 2012, 01:41:48 PM: With people not showing as promised, I think we can assume we won't run into the bug from here out. Especially if mics are not used by everyone. Besides, it's another month away and it could be fixed or improved by then.

if we DO have to do another little test race to check for the bug, I suggest allowing that to be the qualifying race, BUT those who were obviously faster should be allowed to move to the front of that unofficial race very quickly so they can duke it out.

AND probably most importantly. Though I liked meeting all of your friends Dawson, if someone hasn't raced in a long time they should be asked to do some serious practicing before joining the lounge on race day and briefed on some more etiquette stuff. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, but there were some frustrating moments.

On a positive note, when lapping people they did seem to get out of the way pretty quickly... so thanks to those who did that.

Is Metal Phreak the Metal guy from this forum? either way, he had me nervous the whole time! If I had more than one or two little wall-bumps, he would have won for sure. The next race could certainly have a different outcome.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Metal on January 26, 2012, 02:39:53 PM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on January 26, 2012, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 26, 2012, 11:14:18 AM
I have a questions...

Is there any qualifying procedure, or do you just wing it for this evnet?

There is supposed to be 15 minute qualifying right before the race. We wanted to check for a lag bug last night and I guess that was used as qualifying? :-\ I thought it was strange what happened, but whatever.

it looks like it used reverse grid order from our test run, cause i started close to dead last, and the people that finished ahead of me in that test race started behind me.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 26, 2012, 02:48:00 PM: reverse was better than normal order because the pre-race/test race was so chaotic that I never got a clean lap in without being punted... starting in 7th when fried would be 1st would have not been fair because I had the fastest lap on the course. At least with reverse order the fast guys had to battle through the same situations...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 27, 2012, 08:36:52 AM: Ex-xBoxFan, as always I appreciate your constructive criticism. I don't take it as complaining! The goal is to have good racing with high participation. Wish it wasn't so difficult sometimes.

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AND probably most importantly. Though I liked meeting all of your friends Dawson, if someone hasn't raced in a long time they should be asked to do some serious practicing before joining the lounge on race day and briefed on some more etiquette stuff. I don't want to sound like I'm complaining, but there were some frustrating moments.

I spaced out these races with the hopes that everyone will have plenty of time to practice. With 1-2 exceptions I'm finding out that a few of these people barely race anything in the time between races! As in don't even play GT5. I will pass along a mass message that people need to be prepared or do not participate at all. Obviously we're not looking for racing perfection but some preparation effort is needed/required. I will say that cecollazo is a good friend of mine, and just moved into a new house. Before that he was in limo and most of his stuff was packed up for a month, including his PS3 (silly if you ask me!). Not really an excuse, but I don't mind mentioning it ;D He was the permanent back marker but I think he was good at letting people go by. SonicZoom...I dunno what his deal is. dmdffkid is not that great (don't know why he continually picks the NSX) and he (wisely I guess) quit after the qualifying race due to his poor performance.

I'll post the race 2 results later today after work (sorry for the delay my home PC is currently broken). In the interest of keeping people interested I will plan the next race sooner. Perhaps within the next 2-3 week window?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 27, 2012, 08:42:53 AM: There will always be a gap between those in front and those in back. Everyone just needs to know the correct protocol if you are about to be lapped etc. Practice or not. Unless ,of course, you are not able to keep your car in a straight line. Then, you shouldn't be racing others ;) yet.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 27, 2012, 09:07:16 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 26, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
reverse was better than normal order because the pre-race/test race was so chaotic that I never got a clean lap in without being punted... starting in 7th when fried would be 1st would have not been fair because I had the fastest lap on the course. At least with reverse order the fast guys had to battle through the same situations...

That is actually incorrect. I started on pole for the test race with a 29.4
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 27, 2012, 09:17:09 AM: I don't mind doing it more frequently.

if we could stick to a particular night of the week that would be good.

wed seems good so far. kid is in bed (maybe not asleep) by race time anyways...

as for the racers, don't worry about it too much. I don't watn to sound like we're a bunch of snobs, but yea at least an hour or two of prep sometime within a month would seem like a no brainer.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 27, 2012, 09:19:08 AM: Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 27, 2012, 09:07:16 AM
Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 26, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
reverse was better than normal order because the pre-race/test race was so chaotic that I never got a clean lap in without being punted... starting in 7th when fried would be 1st would have not been fair because I had the fastest lap on the course. At least with reverse order the fast guys had to battle through the same situations...
That is actually incorrect. I started on pole for the test race with a 29.4

ok sorry it showed the fastest was still a couple tenths above that on my screen. the poijnt was that we should have been starting near each other rather than being spread out.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 27, 2012, 09:28:31 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 27, 2012, 09:17:09 AM
an hour of prep sometime within a month would seem like a no brainer.

That's about all I can muster. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 27, 2012, 10:04:21 AM: Dammit Brindle! And here I thought Ex's time of 1:29 was all car :D I figured that a 1:30.661 in the overweight Supra was about all that car had.

Sigh :(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 27, 2012, 10:09:16 AM: How does every other Wednesday sound for the remainder of the series? The next race would be February 9th, then 22nd (conveniently side stepping the week with Valentine's day ;) )
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 27, 2012, 10:10:36 AM: watch the replay, there are some tricks to getting around the corners fast that fried and I both were doing...

he would have been doing those types of times in race if his tires hadn't been chewed up in crashes, me thinks. if you watch the replay, you'll see he's down to zero tires and still pushing out pretty impressive times... with that said, an NSX in his hands is not something I want to see pass me lol
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 27, 2012, 10:11:26 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 27, 2012, 10:09:16 AM
How does every other Wednesday sound for the remainder of the series? The next race would be February 9th, then 22nd (conveniently side stepping the week with Valentine's day ;) )

sounds good to me. especially if the girl has no right to be mad at me for it!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 27, 2012, 10:13:06 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 27, 2012, 09:19:08 AM
Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 27, 2012, 09:07:16 AM
Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 26, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
reverse was better than normal order because the pre-race/test race was so chaotic that I never got a clean lap in without being punted... starting in 7th when fried would be 1st would have not been fair because I had the fastest lap on the course. At least with reverse order the fast guys had to battle through the same situations...
That is actually incorrect. I started on pole for the test race with a 29.4

Sorry as well Ex, I wasn't trying to be an ass, just wasn't the race I expected.

ok sorry it showed the fastest was still a couple tenths above that on my screen. the poijnt was that we should have been starting near each other rather than being spread out.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 27, 2012, 10:22:19 AM: Fried, can I ask what you did to combat understeer in the Supra? I intentionally limited tuning for this series so maybe it's not possible but I thought I would ask.

Provoking power on oversteer in the Supra seems impossible to me. I've got the front suspension on full soft, rear full hard. A few degrees of camber in the front, none in the back. And I've got the LSD set to 5 for accel and deccel. Also had brake balance slightly rearward

I don't mean to say the Supra understeers a lot off the bat, but the front tires wear much faster than the rears and then the understeer ensues.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 27, 2012, 11:01:47 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 27, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
Fried, can I ask what you did to combat understeer in the Supra? I intentionally limited tuning for this series so maybe it's not possible but I thought I would ask.

Provoking power on oversteer in the Supra seems impossible to me. I've got the front suspension on full soft, rear full hard. A few degrees of camber in the front, none in the back. And I've got the LSD set to 5 for accel and deccel. Also had brake balance slightly rearward

I don't mean to say the Supra understeers a lot off the bat, but the front tires wear much faster than the rears and then the understeer ensues.

They should be closer together to help turn in and ride height should be lower in rear to induce understeer..

More accel would add power oversteer to a car as well as the initial, but be careful with initial. Brake setting seems fine.

Off my head I ran... -3/-3, 9.2/9.9, 2/3, 3/2, 1.1/1.3 lsd 32/36/22

Other than that
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 27, 2012, 12:23:55 PM: Thanks for the tips...

Though why does GT5 state in the game that more differential lock up = more understeer?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 27, 2012, 01:04:28 PM: Not sure, as I don't think I've read it.

This works for me...

LSD initial - amount of rotation while on accelerator. (higher # more rotation, but also increases effects of accel and deccel equally)

LSD accel - amount of wheel spin (so to speak) of drive tires. (higher # more slip in drive wheels exiting a corner)

LSD deccel - amount of turn in (so to speak) while on brakes. (higher # more stable/later braking, but car becomes harder to turn in while braking)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on January 27, 2012, 01:42:02 PM: Ahah, interesting. Perhaps I've interpretted it wrong, but (and this has worked for me) GT5 says that the higher the #, bit it for initial, accel or decel the more lockup the differential experiences. The more lockup that a differential has the more the car understeers.

Regardless, I will try looking at it from your point of view! ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 27, 2012, 02:06:28 PM: You are correct. A higher number does lock the diff tighter. HOWEVER, in most situations, a tighter locked diff will result in wheel slippage. It just depends on when/how you want that to occur, as to weather it is helping or hurting you.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on January 27, 2012, 02:39:13 PM: Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 27, 2012, 02:06:28 PM
You are correct. A higher number does lock the diff tighter. HOWEVER, in most situations, a tighter locked diff will result in wheel slippage. It just depends on when/how you want that to occur, as to weather it is helping or hurting you.

didn't sound like you were being an ass to me... no worries.

i don't have that great of an understanding of Differentials really, but I will say that my experience has been that higher numbers on accel and decel make you need to have the car pointed straight while accel and braking.

with good throttle and brake control, lower numbers work better the more skilled you become. (racers like fried and other extra-terrestrials, use a lot of partial brake going into corners and are really good and giving throttle only when it's needed and never when it's not a good idea).

this is why default settings for a-spec noobs (which we all were at some point) it sets the levels very high, so that when you install the adjustable diff, you feel the difference in a super powerful car. Noobs tend to just max out every car they get because they think that's what the point of the game is, and then when exiting corners with the wheel still turned sharply, they mash teh gas, of course it's going to start flying in circular fashion! WIth the diff setup at default, that is cured, somewhat.

I still don't claim to understand the underlying physics/mechanics of an LSD though.

is there a really good thread or article out there somewhere anyone would recommend?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wiz on January 27, 2012, 02:51:24 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on January 27, 2012, 02:39:13 PM

is there a really good thread or article out there somewhere anyone would recommend?

Anytime I want to read up on anything tuning wise, I go here - http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204024 (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=204024)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LastLeafFan on January 27, 2012, 03:15:57 PM: I'm not sure that it's done me any good but :stoopid:
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on January 27, 2012, 06:51:43 PM: I'm not sure I fully understand it all, but I have beliefs that I use.

Initial is a mystery for me. It seems to work with Acceleration to control what happens under throttle. I always use 7-8, factory settings for most cars is 5, adjustable LSD is 10. except for the LM Prototype cars. It seems that a higher number like 20 helps stabilize them mid corner/apex.

Acceleration controls how the torque is applied on the gas.

Higher number means that the wheels lock sooner/quicker, so that they turn the same speed. This sounds like it would automatically cause understeer. What I'm reading here though, with some cars, is if your back end gets minor oversteer (?) regardless of LSD, a higher setting will not hurt, but in fact let the back end slide around slightly, in a nice balanced way (?)

Lower number means that the wheels are free to turn at different speeds more. I always use a number between 25 and 35, usually somewhere between the factory setting and the Adjustable LSD default. If you lower it too much, especially with a low Initial setting, you can lose a lot of acceleratin - in fact, you can use this as a form of tractin control if you really want to.

any corrections?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on January 28, 2012, 07:06:25 AM: These last several posts show how come I can't understand how to tune. :laugh I can't get my head to stop spinning just from talk about LSDs.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on January 28, 2012, 11:54:52 AM: Quote from: Turbo-Tuna on January 27, 2012, 06:51:43 PM
I'm not sure I fully understand it all, but I have beliefs that I use.

Initial is a mystery for me. It seems to work with Acceleration to control what happens under throttle. I always use 7-8, factory settings for most cars is 5, adjustable LSD is 10. except for the LM Prototype cars. It seems that a higher number like 20 helps stabilize them mid corner/apex.

Acceleration controls how the torque is applied on the gas.

Higher number means that the wheels lock sooner/quicker, so that they turn the same speed. This sounds like it would automatically cause understeer. What I'm reading here though, with some cars, is if your back end gets minor oversteer (?) regardless of LSD, a higher setting will not hurt, but in fact let the back end slide around slightly, in a nice balanced way (?)

Lower number means that the wheels are free to turn at different speeds more. I always use a number between 25 and 35, usually somewhere between the factory setting and the Adjustable LSD default. If you lower it too much, especially with a low Initial setting, you can lose a lot of acceleratin - in fact, you can use this as a form of tractin control if you really want to.

any corrections?

No, it would hurt the car even more to raise the accel (in my personal experience). This is a case where lowering the number would be beneficial. You may loose a tad bit of accel, (due to the loss through lsd clutch slippage) but the trade off is you are now able to pick the throttle up much sooner exiting a corner.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 02, 2012, 07:36:40 PM: Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 27, 2012, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 27, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
Fried, can I ask what you did to combat understeer in the Supra? I intentionally limited tuning for this series so maybe it's not possible but I thought I would ask.

Provoking power on oversteer in the Supra seems impossible to me. I've got the front suspension on full soft, rear full hard. A few degrees of camber in the front, none in the back. And I've got the LSD set to 5 for accel and deccel. Also had brake balance slightly rearward

I don't mean to say the Supra understeers a lot off the bat, but the front tires wear much faster than the rears and then the understeer ensues.

I was finally looked up my settings (after being away) to compare to what you gave me Brindle...and realized that perhaps you're using the fully customized suspension? The series calls for height adjustable sports kit suspension only :-X

time to switch? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

They should be closer together to help turn in and ride height should be lower in rear to induce understeer..

More accel would add power oversteer to a car as well as the initial, but be careful with initial. Brake setting seems fine.

Off my head I ran... -3/-3, 9.2/9.9, 2/3, 3/2, 1.1/1.3 lsd 32/36/22

Other than that

I was finally looked up my settings (after being away) to compare to what you gave me Brindle...and realized that perhaps you're using the fully customized suspension? The series calls for height adjustable sports kit suspension only :-X

time to switch? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 03, 2012, 09:52:32 AM: Daytona Road Course race will be 25 laps. OP is updated to reflect this as well...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 03, 2012, 09:58:12 AM: this one will be interesting because with the long straights (called turns, but really straights IMO) each car may have a different top speed.

At madrid, I was barely able to top 4th I think.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 03, 2012, 10:04:00 AM: Yes it should! I'm not sure how well I'll fare in the Supra. A very stable car yet I believe it has the worst power to weight ratio of the entrants (and if not it's close). On this track I was barely getting into 6th on the longest "straight" and was hitting right around 160. Best lap time so far of a 2:00.132

I've updated the OP to help clarify a few things, as well as the race schedule from hereon out! 8)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 03, 2012, 10:48:28 AM: cool. I like the qualifying clarificiation. We'll just have to watch for bugginess, which may or may not be fixed come wednesday. Hopefully there's an update after the maintenance.

could you also update with where everyone is on points so far?

It might keep people interested in seeing who they are still running against.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on February 03, 2012, 11:13:02 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 02, 2012, 07:36:40 PM
Quote from: SpitFriedBrindle on January 27, 2012, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: WolfpackS2k on January 27, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
Fried, can I ask what you did to combat understeer in the Supra? I intentionally limited tuning for this series so maybe it's not possible but I thought I would ask.

Provoking power on oversteer in the Supra seems impossible to me. I've got the front suspension on full soft, rear full hard. A few degrees of camber in the front, none in the back. And I've got the LSD set to 5 for accel and deccel. Also had brake balance slightly rearward

I don't mean to say the Supra understeers a lot off the bat, but the front tires wear much faster than the rears and then the understeer ensues.

I was finally looked up my settings (after being away) to compare to what you gave me Brindle...and realized that perhaps you're using the fully customized suspension? The series calls for height adjustable sports kit suspension only :-X

time to switch? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

They should be closer together to help turn in and ride height should be lower in rear to induce understeer..

More accel would add power oversteer to a car as well as the initial, but be careful with initial. Brake setting seems fine.

Off my head I ran... -3/-3, 9.2/9.9, 2/3, 3/2, 1.1/1.3 lsd 32/36/22

Other than that

I was finally looked up my settings (after being away) to compare to what you gave me Brindle...and realized that perhaps you're using the fully customized suspension? The series calls for height adjustable sports kit suspension only :-X

time to switch? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

Nope, height adjust only. height -3/-3, spring 9.2/9.9, damp 2/3, 3/2, camber 1.1/1.3
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 03, 2012, 11:25:56 AM: Hmmm, I wonder if we have slightly different Supra RZs? I didn't mean to make false accusations, but with the height adjustable suspension I cannot adjust to the spring rates you say you're using. ??? :-\ That is utterly bizarre. I'll recheck tonight I guess, though I had the screen up last night and looked :-X

eXxBoxFan, I am going to post that up today. I apologize for not doing sooner. I've been away most of the last week so I was a bit behind. Please forgive me ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 03, 2012, 11:28:11 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 03, 2012, 11:25:56 AM
I've been away most of the last week so I was a bit behind. Please forgive me ;D

Weren't you rubbing elbows with :mono ?

:lmao
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 03, 2012, 11:29:39 AM: I was!

Now I need someone to help me remove the silver spoon from my ass (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 03, 2012, 11:33:35 AM: (http://sharetv.org/images/silver_spoons-show.jpg)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 03, 2012, 11:49:48 AM: Race #2 Results

1st exXboxfan - Acura NSX '91
2nd metalfreak - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97
3rd LooneyTuna - Honda S2000 '99
4th dawson864 - Toyota Supra RZ '97
5th Feldynn - Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '98
6th SonicZoom82 - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec R33 '97
7th PsychoPhreak - Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo '98
8th Canius - Honda S2000 '99
9th cecollazo - Toyota MR2 GT-S '97
10th Fried_Tuna - Toyota Supra RX '97 - DNF
11th Valrik - Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II R32 '95 DNS

OP is updated as well to reflect the results and points. I will update the post with race times as well, later when home (can't read them off the screen shot I took with my iPhone (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif) )

CURRENT STANDINGS
1 exXboxfan - 200
2 LooneyTuna - 170
3 dawson864 - 150
4 PsychoPhreak - 110
5 metalfreak - 90
6 Feldynn - 65
8 skyfire3000 - 60 (tie)
8 SonicZoom82 - 60 (tie)
9 Valrik - 55
10 Canius - 50
11 kngrsll - 40
12 dannydigitl - 30
13 cecollazo - 20
14 Fried_Tuna - 10
15 blasphemour - 5
16 chazz1x - 5
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: Brindle on February 03, 2012, 12:46:28 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 03, 2012, 11:25:56 AM
Hmmm, I wonder if we have slightly different Supra RZs? I didn't mean to make false accusations, but with the height adjustable suspension I cannot adjust to the spring rates you say you're using. ??? :-\ That is utterly bizarre. I'll recheck tonight I guess, though I had the screen up last night and looked :-X

eXxBoxFan, I am going to post that up today. I apologize for not doing sooner. I've been away most of the last week so I was a bit behind. Please forgive me ;D

As will I. I know you weren't accusing and I (http://i.imgur.com/Gv2Zeu6.gif) way too much to remember shit. I do know for a fact my suspension had only half the shit I usually change, I just probably mixed it with a different car.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 03, 2012, 01:25:04 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 03, 2012, 11:25:56 AM

eXxBoxFan, I am going to post that up today. I apologize for not doing sooner. I've been away most of the last week so I was a bit behind. Please forgive me ;D

it's no problem I just wondered where everyone is at... whose contending with whom... 8)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 07, 2012, 10:27:24 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 03, 2012, 10:04:00 AM
On this track I was barely getting into 6th on the longest "straight" and was hitting right around 160. Best lap time so far of a 2:00.132

I got a 1:55.5 last night in my nsx. That car doesn't get near the top of 5th and some of the shift points feel weird, but it gets the job done ;)

it did feel a little unstable under braking, so I may mess with it some more tonight...

as always, the key to DRC is braking when you KNOW you need to. Don' wait longer just to see if you can squeeze more out. You'll regret it. The person who can do this one thing consistently will win it.

oh, and slow down for the pit entrance... it will bite you if you don't.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series!
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 07, 2012, 10:56:28 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on February 07, 2012, 10:27:24 AM

I got a 1:55.5 last night in my nsx.

:o

I'm exactly 2 seconds behind you. :P
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 07, 2012, 11:13:55 AM: Is qualifying at 9:00 or race start?

Is it OK if I come out with a car that meets specs to see if there is room?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 07, 2012, 11:37:30 AM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 07, 2012, 11:13:55 AM
Is qualifying at 9:00 or race start?

Is it OK if I come out with a car that meets specs to see if there is room?

I believe qt is at 9-9:15. Race right after. I hope you can join in. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 07, 2012, 12:07:37 PM: FML! I'm going to get smoked in this race :( I know I picked the Supra...but dammit.... (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) Exbox, I wholeheartedly agree with your comments. No walls to prevent cars from leaving the track this time around!

LastLeafFan, I tried to hold the race with a full grid of the same people every time around, but (at least with this series) it seems impossible. So yes please come and participate, help fill the grid, and have fun! Double check the specs in the first post and come have some fun ^-^

Qualifying WILL start at 9 sharp (mean it this time). And at 915 we will set ourselves up on the grid to set the starting order for the race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 07, 2012, 01:16:48 PM: Don't look for Wolfpack LLF. Dawson864 (?) Or, follow my dot. ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 07, 2012, 01:28:56 PM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on February 07, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
Don't look for Wolfpack LLF. Dawson864 (?) Or, follow my dot. ;)

Good call, though I think we're PSN friends. We were both in the the MGTC series the other month...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 07, 2012, 01:34:19 PM: I never thought of that. I'm not sure we are friends yet. Is it dawson864?

If I can make it on Wednesday I'm sure I can be there the rest of the series. If there is room though.

I haven't tried any cars yet but the Acura sure looks promising (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif).
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 07, 2012, 03:38:02 PM: Yes it's dawson864.

And yes I think there will be room for the remainder of the series.

Argh, no more Acuras!!! :lolz
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 07, 2012, 04:39:08 PM: hey! The car may be great, but it ain't ALL car, ya know :jimi: 8)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 07, 2012, 05:04:22 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 07, 2012, 03:38:02 PM
Yes it's dawson864.

And yes I think there will be room for the remainder of the series.

Argh, no more Acuras!!! (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)

I will take a look and see what I have in my garage later tonight.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 07, 2012, 05:54:56 PM: Gonna be a long race for me :( .. best I managed with the Mitsu GTO is a nice round 2'00.004 and tires were going away quite badly about 6 laps into practice mode.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 08, 2012, 07:45:24 AM: Ya, I noticed the tire wear also, and that damn bus stop. :o
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 08, 2012, 08:03:35 AM: Everyone make sure you do the PSN system update before tonight's race time. I tried to do some practice last night but the playstation had other ideas. I then spent the next hour doing a system update >:(

oh well, better last night than tonight! :laugh
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 08:06:11 AM: I think I have decided on which car to use. The Honda NSX Type S Zero '97. Only problem is I cycled my UCD at least 6-7 times last night after i spent about 40 minutes >:( with the system update.

I found the NSX '01 and the NSX R version and was all excited until I read the specs again. Anyway I can't find this car so if anyone can help me out with one I would very much appreciate it.

I'm not sure I'm going to run tonight as I don't have a single lap under me as well as the fact that I have no idea what options are there for tuning with the height only suspension.

If I can get the car and try a few laps without crashing constantly then I will give it a go.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 08, 2012, 09:04:17 AM: I'll see if I have one to send you. Send me a FR at your convenience to ExXboxfan (no dash)

it would be nice to have another NSX out there with me.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 09:26:21 AM: I'll send a FR even if you don't have the car. With the system update last night I forgot to check to see if Dawson was on my friends list.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Brindle on February 08, 2012, 09:31:46 AM: NSX's are way too fast. Was curious about Ex's 155, so I hopped in the supra. 156.9 was best after 10 laps. I then decided to try an type s. (http://i.imgur.com/kdCxV9H.gif) 154.4 after second lap. Good luck to those not driving an NSX. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: TunaPhreak on February 08, 2012, 09:47:29 AM: Yeah, Feldynn and I were able to turn a bunch of laps last night before Wolfpack got kicked off and then Jay joined in later, and while as Ex said it's not ALL the car, that NSX definitely seemed to go faster easier than anything else I tried out! LLF, I def have both the 97 and 99 standard type S, can send it when I finally get home from work if you're still going to run, please do!

And I think Feldynn and I both officially gave up on the GTO. There are definitely faster cars out there than others, and between tire wear and lap times, the poor Mitsu comes in on the lower end. I'm not gonna straight bandwagon jump to the NSX, but I will hop in the Nissan ship as I don't think anyone's used the 300Z yet this series. That I was at least able to pull fairly consistant 1:57's-58's with and keep tires for around 10 laps.

I will say that I like the pack of cars, and while the PP system is obviously flawed as stated many times before, I think if we distributed the slower cars to the faster guys, we'd have some tight pack racing in this group/car combo. Maybe if everyone wants to run a season 2 we distribute cars based on the overall standings here :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 08, 2012, 09:51:23 AM: Quote from: TunaPhreak on February 08, 2012, 09:47:29 AM
Yeah, Feldynn and I were able to turn a bunch of laps last night before Wolfpack got kicked off and then Jay joined in later, and while as Ex said it's not ALL the car, that NSX definitely seemed to go faster easier than anything else I tried out! LLF, I def have both the 97 and 99 standard type S, can send it when I finally get home from work if you're still going to run, please do!

And I think Feldynn and I both officially gave up on the GTO. There are definitely faster cars out there than others, and between tire wear and lap times, the poor Mitsu comes in on the lower end. I'm not gonna straight bandwagon jump to the NSX, but I will hop in the Nissan ship as I don't think anyone's used the 300Z yet this series. That I was at least able to pull fairly consistant 1:57's-58's with and keep tires for around 10 laps.

I will say that I like the pack of cars, and while the PP system is obviously flawed as stated many times before, I think if we distributed the slower cars to the faster guys, we'd have some tight pack racing in this group/car combo. Maybe if everyone wants to run a season 2 we distribute cars based on the overall standings here :)
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Thanks, I feel better now. :)

That would be a great idea if it could be done!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 10:00:16 AM: Quote from: TunaPhreak on February 08, 2012, 09:47:29 AM
Yeah, Feldynn and I were able to turn a bunch of laps last night before Wolfpack got kicked off and then Jay joined in later, and while as Ex said it's not ALL the car, that NSX definitely seemed to go faster easier than anything else I tried out! LLF, I def have both the 97 and 99 standard type S, can send it when I finally get home from work if you're still going to run, please do!

And I think Feldynn and I both officially gave up on the GTO. There are definitely faster cars out there than others, and between tire wear and lap times, the poor Mitsu comes in on the lower end. I'm not gonna straight bandwagon jump to the NSX, but I will hop in the Nissan ship as I don't think anyone's used the 300Z yet this series. That I was at least able to pull fairly consistant 1:57's-58's with and keep tires for around 10 laps.

I will say that I like the pack of cars, and while the PP system is obviously flawed as stated many times before, I think if we distributed the slower cars to the faster guys, we'd have some tight pack racing in this group/car combo. Maybe if everyone wants to run a season 2 we distribute cars based on the overall standings here :)

If you could send me the '97 that would be amazing.

Any tips on tuning with this suspension? Can we only adjust the height? I've never done this before, just automatically buy the fully adjustable one every time.

I will be there if I can turn a few laps before race time. I'm afraid that I would just get in everyone's way with a new car and no testing. Don't want to ruin anyone's race.

Also what time does the room open?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 08, 2012, 10:09:38 AM: Yeah sadly the Mitsubishi GTO is just not going to cut the cheese :(, while I do love the car (especially with a bit of tuning) it's just too far behind anything else on the track. For the record I did managed to squeeze a high 1'59.xxx out of it with probably enough tires to last 6-8 laps but my average laps were still just over 2'00.

After jumping in both the Mazda efini RX-7 and Nissan 300ZX I was managing consistent 1'58s with a few 1'57s, so I'll likely be joining Phreak in a 300ZX.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 08, 2012, 10:10:55 AM: TunaPhreak's network always seems to be more stable than mine so we usually base any races I "have" from his Lounge. I'm not sure what time he plans to get online today...I would hope by 8.

As to the NSX unfair advantage, I'm really kicking myself for not instituting, from the beginning of this series, a ballast penalty for race winners. I feel like putting that into effect now would be unfair persecution of ExXboxFan (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

While the NSX is fast it is more tail happy than some of the other offerings so its not all peaches and cream.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: TunaPhreak on February 08, 2012, 10:13:04 AM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
If you could send me the '97 that would be amazing.

Any tips on tuning with this suspension? Can we only adjust the height? I've never done this before, just automatically buy the fully adjustable one every time.

I will be there if I can turn a few laps before race time. I'm afraid that I would just get in everyone's way with a new car and no testing. Don't want to ruin anyone's race.

Also what time does the room open?

No problem, I'll check the thread when I get home in case someone else already sent it, otherwise expect around 6 if I hopefully remember.

Yeah, you can buy the height adjustable suspension. So far most every car I've tried out on this course I would lower it nearly to the max, up the spring rate to the max or close, and same with damper. The height adjustables don't have a very large tuning margin :P Then you can adjust camber to your liking and I think that's all that's open. It was intentionally limited tuning to try to limit the necessary practice/tuning needed between weeks.

~~I'm going to jump on a limb and say it will be hosted in my lounge again as Wolfpack seemed to have network issues last night.~~ I'll be hosting in my lounge. Look for it to open between 8 and 8:30 (hopefully closer to 8 as stated), officially starting at 9pm EST. If I'm not IN the room, please don't join yet I'm trying to keep myself the host of my own lounge.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 10:59:21 AM: Quote from: TunaPhreak on February 08, 2012, 10:13:04 AM
Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
If you could send me the '97 that would be amazing.

Any tips on tuning with this suspension? Can we only adjust the height? I've never done this before, just automatically buy the fully adjustable one every time.

I will be there if I can turn a few laps before race time. I'm afraid that I would just get in everyone's way with a new car and no testing. Don't want to ruin anyone's race.

Also what time does the room open?

No problem, I'll check the thread when I get home in case someone else already sent it, otherwise expect around 6 if I hopefully remember.

Yeah, you can buy the height adjustable suspension. So far most every car I've tried out on this course I would lower it nearly to the max, up the spring rate to the max or close, and same with damper. The height adjustables don't have a very large tuning margin :P Then you can adjust camber to your liking and I think that's all that's open. It was intentionally limited tuning to try to limit the necessary practice/tuning needed between weeks.

~~I'm going to jump on a limb and say it will be hosted in my lounge again as Wolfpack seemed to have network issues last night.~~ I'll be hosting in my lounge. Look for it to open between 8 and 8:30 (hopefully closer to 8 as stated), officially starting at 9pm EST. If I'm not IN the room, please don't join yet I'm trying to keep myself the host of my own lounge.

Thanks Phreak, I will check when I get home. I'm pretty sure I have you on my friends list.

I'll give it a go and see everyone there tonight. Thanks for the tuning advice as well. Should be interesting if someone sees me coming up behind Bwahahahaha :laugh
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 08, 2012, 11:18:22 AM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 08, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Bwahahahaha

Looking forward to seeing you tonght. Also just added.

:muhaha

(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 08, 2012, 03:52:56 PM: all I can say is that at madrid I didn't just finish 20 sec ahead of 2nd, but also clawed my way to the front after a lot of difficult passes...

I'll see if I can handle the car with 80-100kg at the zero position and if it feels stable I'll try running it with that.

i'm not getting consistent 1:55s either... Most are in teh 1:56-57 range if I don't slide at all or use too much caution in trouble spots...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: TunaPhreak on February 08, 2012, 07:02:11 PM: LLF, NSX has been sent, good luck!

Everyone else, room is open! I'm no physically present even though I'm in the room, but I'll be there later. Feel free to practice/warm up/jerk off/whatever ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Metal on February 08, 2012, 10:12:28 PM: well, it would have been nice to stay in the race since i was doing well, but the wed update crashed my connection to the GT5 servers.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 09, 2012, 07:59:19 AM: Sorry we lost you Metal! Seems like there's 1 ~~casualty~~ DNF every race. Oh well, such is racing! ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 09, 2012, 08:43:08 AM: Quote from: Metal on February 08, 2012, 10:12:28 PM
well, it would have been nice to stay in the race since i was doing well, but the wed update crashed my connection to the GT5 servers.

sux you got dropped... would have been good.

congrats to Feldynn for the win!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 09, 2012, 09:34:16 AM: I apologize for the delays at race start. I thought that Psycho was hosting in my lounge not his and thus a few participants were temporarily left out in the cold. 2 other participants also informed me (after i sent them semi-annoyed texts) that they haven't gotten any of my race related emails (this ppl aren't on any GT5 related boards). Lol, oops!

Race 3 Results!

1 Feldynn - 50:40.196
2 exXboxFan* - 50:44.443 + 4.247
3 Looney_Tuna - 52:03.832 + 1:23.636
4 PsychoPreak - 52:07.918 + 1:27.722
5 dawson864 - 52:12.651 + 1:32.455
6 Cainius - 53:20.417 + 2:40.221
7 blashphemour - 53:34.211 + 2:54.015
8 LastLeafFan + 2 laps (?)
9 Metal - DNF

*ran with 80kg "penalty" ballast

Congrats to Feldynn for some great driving and excellent pit strategy. Condolences to LastLeaf who had great difficulty finding the pit entrance (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) and Metal for the disconnect.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 09:35:08 AM: It's too bad you got dropped Metal as you were right on my tail at the time, the next thing I knew I was all alone again. I just figured that you must have pitted but then someone mentioned that you were gone.

It was a fun time and I learned a very valuable lesson last night. Know how to pit at DRC.

I spun out at the bus stop on I think it was the 1rd lap and promptly went from 6st to last and thought my race was over. Not in the NSX though. I picked my way through the pack and made it back to 3st and Xbox pitted on I think lap 10 and when he got back out I was right with him. Then Feldynn pitted on lap 12 and I moved to 2st 10 seconds back of Xbox.

This is when I had my brain fart. I pitted after 13 and was sent right through the pit and had to go all the way around. A 3 + minute lap hurt but not as bad as the next lap when I went through the pit again. A 6:10 lap which put me 3 laps down. The 3st time being a charm I saw that you had to be in that little lane just below the track. I honestly never knew that before, Oh well live and learn.

I honestly felt that I could have got 3st or even 2st with Xbox pitting twice.

Anyway a good time and I want to thank Phreak for the kind donation of the NSX. I had enough time to run it completely stock and got in about 5 laps before the race.

I will be more prepared next time even though I hate the next track.

Good times guys and thanks for taking me in Wolfpack.

Congrats on the win Feldynn.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 09, 2012, 09:43:33 AM: Glad to have you aboard Leaf! And with the NSX you were doing well!

Laguna Seca isn't my favorite (as i've said) but I felt like I should put it on the schedule, lol, so there it is :lolz
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 09, 2012, 09:56:49 AM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 09:35:08 AM

I spun out at the bus stop on I think it was the 1rd lap and promptly went from 6st to next to last and thought my race was over.

Congrats on the win Feldynn.

Fix'd, I was so far behind you didn't even know I was there. I was knocked off course earlier in that lap

I'm glad I stuck with it and ran some consistent laps, stayed out for 14 laps before 1rd pit stop. I held on, barely, to bring home 3st.

This
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 09, 2012, 10:02:08 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 09, 2012, 09:34:16 AM
I apologize for the delays at race start. I thought that Psycho was hosting in my lounge not his and thus a few participants were temporarily left out in the cold. 2 other participants also informed me (after i sent them semi-annoyed texts) that they haven't gotten any of my race related emails (this ppl aren't on any GT5 related boards). Lol, oops!

Race 3 Results!

1 Feldynn - 50:40.196
2 exXboxFan - 50:44.443 + 4.247
3 Looney_Tuna - 52:03.832 + 1:23.636
4 PsychoPreak - 52:07.918 + 1:27.722
5 dawson864 - 52:12.651 + 1:32.455
6 Cainius - 53:20.417 + 2:40.221
7 blashphemour - 53:34.211 + 2:54.015
8 LastLeafFan + 2 laps (?)
9 Metal - DNF

Congrats to Feldynn for some great driving and excellent pit strategy. Condolences to LastLeaf who had great difficulty finding the pit entrance (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) and Metal for the disconnect.

I did end up running an extra 80kg, maybe put an asterisk on it? Think I'll probably dial it back to 40-50kg for next race if that's okay. Oh, and I did not bump up power to get back up to 480pp.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 09, 2012, 10:16:25 AM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on February 09, 2012, 09:56:49 AM
Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 09:35:08 AM

I spun out at the bus stop on I think it was the 1rd lap and promptly went from 6st to next to last and thought my race was over.

Congrats on the win Feldynn.

Fix'd, I was so far behind you didn't even know I was there. I was knocked off course earlier in that lap

I'm glad I stuck with it and ran some consistent laps, stayed out for 14 laps before 1rd pit stop. I held on, barely, to bring home 3st.

This

Looney, I saw that. I think it was Canius that tapped you into the grass on the outside of that right turn (entrance to banking)? I hope that didn't piss you off too much. I'll mention to him to be more mindful about incidental contact and yielding. Either way a pretty good race for you I think!

exXboxFan, good call. It's been updated. Also run whatever you like. Obviously close racing is more fun but don't put yourself at a disadvantage of course.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 09, 2012, 10:51:47 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 09, 2012, 10:16:25 AM

Looney, I saw that. I think it was Canius that tapped you into the grass on the outside of that right turn (entrance to banking)? I hope that didn't piss you off too much. I'll mention to him to be more mindful about incidental contact and yielding. Either way a pretty good race for you I think!

Yes, it upsets me but I can't throw stones as I make mistakes as well. ( I made such a mistake a short time before this event but I checked up until the driver I hit regained position) I just wish people would hold up if they know for sure that they took someone off track. Then, maybe there will be at least two drivers racing each other instead of just one waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay in the back.

...and thanks for the compliment :) I'm happy with what I was able to accomplish, especially since I wouldn't be able to catch the cats out front even without going off track.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 11:08:10 AM: I guess so, I just thought that was on lap 2. I figured that was when I went to 7th or so. All I know is there were cars all over the place. I still don`t know how I missed Dawson when he spun entering the oval from the infield. Just luck going through the cloud of smoke (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif).

Who was it that drove in the pit exit by mistake. I was laughing over that one plus I don`t know who it was but I T boned someone at turn 1. Couldn`t avoid them as they were across the whole track.

Good laughs throughout and great run Looney going from that far back.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 09, 2012, 11:16:59 AM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 11:08:10 AM
I guess so, I just thought that was on lap 2. I figured that was when I went to 7th or so. All I know is there were cars all over the place. I still don`t know how I missed Dawson when he spun entering the oval from the infield. Just luck going through the cloud of smoke (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif).

Who was it that drove in the pit exit by mistake. I was laughing over that one plus I don`t know who it was but I T boned someone at turn 1. Couldn`t avoid them as they were across the whole track.

Good laughs throughout and great run Looney going from that far back.

Thanks LLF. :)
I think that was me. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) I forgot about that incident as well. I almost went into the exit of pit rd myself but was able to drive around.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 09, 2012, 11:20:17 AM: HAHA, I remember when that happened. TunaPhreak and someone else spun out around turn 1 and Phreak ended up in the pit out lane. And instead of just driving through it he turned around and drove out of it. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) :lolz (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) I recall eyeballing that on my map and chuckling a bit.

I had 2 really nasty crashes (one that temporarily killed my engine) but I was lucky enough to not take anyone out with me. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 09, 2012, 11:24:43 AM: Thanks guys, that was a fun race and somewhat of a surprise result for me.. I hadn't expected Ex pit that 2rd time around lap 20(?) and almost threw away what lead I then had a couple of times I think :). DRC has never been a good track for me but I really did enjoy the race and have a much better understanding of the course now too.

Ex, Metal and I had a good few laps at the start racing close and swapping spots until I blew it at the bus stop on Lap 4 and lost what draft I had. I'll try and get some pictures out of the replay today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 09, 2012, 02:23:08 PM: I agree close racing is most fun and I personally don't want to hoard the car that is seen as the fastest.

I had a thought, and it doesn't have to be done in this series, but you might want to consider it for another one (or if you really like the idea, I'm okay with implementing for the rest of these races)

okay idea time: (patent pending) :laugh

2nd place gets the choice of swapping cars with the winner of the previous race. If the NSX wins, then 2nd place can choose to run it, but the other guy has to change cars too. This could be done by sending/cloning the car, or by simply changing to an identical car you already own.

this honor would only be given to 2nd place though, to avoid confusion and to keep the field diverse.

If you decide to adopt this, I'd like to start AFTER the next race. If you don't like the idea, then I'm okay with that too. Just thought I'd offer up something to shake things up a bit.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 09, 2012, 02:34:48 PM: Not that I would have a chance to get 1nd, I think it would make more work to "re-learn" a different car for possibly just one race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 09, 2012, 02:52:44 PM: I think you got 2st twonce now, so you'd hypothetically be able to grab an NSX and win the next one.

you'd not be forced to switch, but could ify ou wanted to
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 09, 2012, 02:54:28 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on February 09, 2012, 02:52:44 PM
I think you got 2st twonce now, so you'd hypothetically be able to grab an NSX and win the next one.

you'd not be forced to switch, but could ify ou wanted to

That was before Metal joined. :angel: I would try it just to see.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 03:11:22 PM: I know it's 2 weeks away but I just have 1 question.

Does anyone know where the pit is at Laguna Seca (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 09, 2012, 03:22:12 PM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 03:11:22 PM
I know it's 2 weeks away but I just have 1 question.

Does anyone know where the pit is at Laguna Seca (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

It's over there ----> somewhere I think :)

I do know it's possible to go in too fast and bounce of the walls before autopilot kicks in which can cause you to warp to the start of the pit lane and get the no-stop auto drive-thru penalty so I for one will be practicing entering the pit lane under race conditions just to be safe!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 09, 2012, 03:31:14 PM: I think that maybe I should practice that as well.

No knuckleheads will be permitted in the next race.

Mind you it may be a bit more difficult but if Phreak wants to enter the pit exit I think that may be OK ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 09, 2012, 03:43:23 PM: (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)

lol, you guys are making me bust out laughing over here at work. :lolz

exXboxFan, that idea sounds swell with me. As long as nobody objects to it we can put it into effect after Race #4.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 14, 2012, 02:03:56 PM: maybe it's just me, but the NSX does not seem to be much different in lap times with the 300zx so far at Laguna Seca.

I think because of the wide-open areas at DRC it favored some cars more than others... Laguna seems to be a different story.

I'll only limit with additional weight if it seems that I cannot get similar times with another car.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 14, 2012, 02:51:35 PM: Interesting find Ex. I won't have a chance to do any testing there myself till later this week...possibly tomorrow 8)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 16, 2012, 08:17:29 AM: Has anyone done any testing this week. I really believe that it's going to be fun even though I don't care for this track. There should be cars spinning out all over the place.

I will get the ball rolling. When I did manage to keep the car on the track I got a rather sloppy 1:32:250. I have no idea if that is going to be close at all.

I'm having a hard time with some of the gears this week. The stock tranny is tough when you can't adjust anything.

Should be fun.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 16, 2012, 08:31:37 AM: I think a 1:32 is good. If I'm remembering right, my best with only a little practice was in the 1:32s.

for sure, sticking to the edge of the track is challenging here. staying out of the sand is the name of the game.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 16, 2012, 10:15:59 AM: Funny you should ask LLF!

TunaPhreak and myself did some testing last night. TurboTuna also joined in on the fun. Turbo turned a 1:31.007 with the NSX Type S Zero and my best was a high 1:32 using the Supra. I tried a few others cars for funnzies and was getting mid 1:33s with the R32 and R33 Skyline as well as the S2000.

The cars seemed very lively on this track and more prone to transitional and power on oversteer than on previous tracks. Could make some vehicles tricky but I actually really enjoyed it in the Supra, which usually has a very planted rear end.

Oh, and I determined the lap count. 30 laps my friends, 30

I think the biggest determining factors (for finishing order) in this race will be staying off the sand and going easy on the tires!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 16, 2012, 10:50:48 AM: sweet. good to know it is possible to get into the 1:31s. I'll be aiming for that.

the MR cars will have some difficulty at the chicane if not hitting the right part of it.

I enter the chicane from the far right, aim towards teh inside of the S, and exit through the middle. it has the most predictable effect on cars, IMO.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 21, 2012, 07:45:08 AM: Ran a best of 132.1 after 20 minutes. :-\ My best will probably be in the mid/high 1 31s
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 21, 2012, 08:25:04 AM: Goos looking times Looney! Between that and your weight advantage (towards tire wear) I would say you're in good shape coming into the race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 21, 2012, 08:34:07 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 21, 2012, 08:25:04 AM
Goos looking times Looney! Between that and your weight advantage (towards tire wear) I would say you're in good shape coming into the race.

(http://991.com/newGallery/Loverboy-Get-Lucky-516772.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 21, 2012, 10:29:58 AM: so far my best is a 1:32.5xx

I won't be adding any weight this time ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 22, 2012, 07:35:53 AM: What ever I had going....it's gone. :( Mid 33's at best.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 22, 2012, 07:48:50 AM: Most I could get out of the 300ZX was a 1'33.3xx but I was averaging 1'34 to 1'36 depending on how badly I drive. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 22, 2012, 08:07:23 AM: I'm with you guys. I tried about 10 laps last week and did a 1:32:250 but since then I have only managed one lap in the 32's, mostly in the mid 33's. I was playing with my limited settings and can't believe that I can't find the same setup again.

I think there could be a lot of dust thrown up this week. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 22, 2012, 08:48:12 AM: thing is, this track is one of those that is very hard (for me, and apparently others) to replicate a perfect lap time after time. Each one has the tiniest flaw and that's .5 sec easily.

my best is now a 1:32.1 and I know I have a 1:31 in me if I could get that golden lap in.

from my perspective, because it took a lot of practice to get down to this time, I don't think the NSX has any real advantage here at Laguna. I have to think that my lap time is more preparation and putting laps in rather than just having "the car".

alas, what matters most tonight is staying out of the sand.

I'll be braking early and being cautious especially on the first lap when we're close together.

Don't punt me bros!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 22, 2012, 10:05:50 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on February 22, 2012, 08:48:12 AM

my best is now a 1:52.1 and I know I have a 1:51 in me if I could get that golden lap in.

:muhaha
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: TunaPhreak on February 22, 2012, 10:28:44 AM: Me thinks those 5's should be 3's??

Yes, there's a lot of nuance to this track, and a couple turns that 1 tire off will REALLY screw you over, and in the testing I got in with Feldynn last night, found that even a small shift in driving style can greatly affect tire life and lap times.

With that said, bestest tire shredding lap I pulled was a 1:33.017 (I think that was with a draft) and was able to pull a 1:33.05 or so without a draft, but that was really pushing the tires, and subsequent lap times immediately suffered.

The last practice race we got in last night I was able to finally smooth out and brake early, avoid even a single tire going red, and I managed to put up 3 low-mid 1:34's in a row followed by low 35's. Now will I be able to drive as smooth tonight? No idea, but spoiler alert: tire wear is going to be a HUGE factor here I think, especially with the super long slow pit lane (make sure you don't blow your pit entrances either, this is one that *can* skip you through without tires/fuel!)

Glad to see some of those putting up 32's are finding it harder now, and look forward to seeing everyone tonight! Event will be in the lounge of "dawson864" but I'll be wearing the crown. Expect it to open somewhere in the 8-8:30 range.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 22, 2012, 11:21:03 AM: I think pit stops will be huge here. I can't see myself making it with less that 3 stops and if I have any pit excursions then even more (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

edit: maybe 4 stops.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 22, 2012, 11:42:15 AM: ^I really hope you practiced entering the pits for this track. A DRC repeat would be ~~funny~~ unfortunate (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)

I've noticed a slight time reduction in lap times as well. Last week I did some practice with Turbo-Tuna and Feldynn and hit 1:32s several times. Then I did some tire longevity practice on Saturday and I couldn't do better than low 1:33s.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 22, 2012, 12:25:44 PM: I hope there is nobody behind me while entering the pits. I am very slow when I enter now. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 22, 2012, 12:59:02 PM: yea psycho you are right... my 5's were meant to be 3's.

so my best is 1:32.1
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on February 22, 2012, 04:17:23 PM: Well, it looks like I'm 95% (arbitrary high %) dedicated to racing tonight, and WolfDawson2000 has given me the green light to run an S2000. It's not quite a NSX Type S or an MR-2, but it's pretty fast.

I agree guys, tire wear could be huge. Drive too aggressively and 8 laps will kill mine, so I might have to slow down to make it 10 laps each = 2 stops. If you have to stop 3 times, I'm guessing a driver who has a clean, tire friendly race will beat you.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: TunaPhreak on February 22, 2012, 05:59:18 PM: Lounge is up super early this week for anyone looking to practice, see you at 9!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 22, 2012, 07:18:14 PM: ^^great to have you! ;D

^I'm in, wahoo! ^-^
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: TunaPhreak on February 23, 2012, 06:52:52 AM: Hope everyone had fun last night, we had a pretty decent field for the start! Unfortunately more disconnects than usual this go round, but hopefully today's 9 HOUR MAINTENANCE will help with some of that real soon!

I personally put my practice to good use, drove a nice clean race (until lap 30) and was happy with my overall position. It was kind of lonely however, but I def remember getting to battle metal a bit, and saw dawson try to sneak up on me. Saw a few real nasty spins and off courses as well, I hope it was all driver error and nothing unclean. I went mic-less for the first time since I was hosting to try to avoid disconnects/lag issues, so I know it was a lot harder to call position going into some of the tougher corners. I think metal went wide at the left hander right before the straight before the corkscrew (I don't know my turn numbers at all if you couldn't tell) because he thought I was on the inside. I knew better than to try to pull a pass there after some practice the day before, but unfortunately had no way to communicate that the line was his. Hope it didn't effect you too much, and really hope this is all better within the next few days.

Anyway, after the race a few had mentioned they wished they had saved the replay but forgot, so here you go. Replay from my point of view, 65 megs. Enjoy!

http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5/90s_Japanese_4.zip (http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5/90s_Japanese_4.zip)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 23, 2012, 08:21:48 AM: thanks for posting!

It was fun. Good job to turbo for the win!

I practice a lot this week, and it mostly paid off, except that I never went off on the last turn during practice, and that's where I went off TWICE last night.

I did end up getting a 1:31.5 as a fast lap during the race. So that was pretty cool to see.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 23, 2012, 09:21:28 AM: I really wish my Blootoof mic hadn't decided to quit last night, there were a couple of times where I really wanted to say sorry and such lol.

The race itself was mostly just average for me, for some reason I didn't have the best time driving that car on that track last night which is odd as I usually do fairly well at Laguna Seca in other cars but for some reason I just couldn't quite keep that 300ZX on the road enough consistently. Not that I really had any major spin outs (at least after that hiccup on the 1rd lap when I hit Dawson and a few of us got bunched up) either, I just dipped a wheel off here and there and had to slow down too much.

I did try something interesting with tires though as some were commenting on midrace :). I started out on Racing: Hards with the intention of making it a 1-stop race though sadly I miscalculated slightly, I got about 14 laps (I think) out of them before I decided to pit and switch to Mediums. Had I stuck with the Hards I would probably not have had to pit again, but after about 13 laps on the Mediums I just couldn't stay out any longer without losing a spot or two anyway so I chose to be safe.

My plan was to go a bit over halfway on RH then switch to RMs with a lighter fuel load for the rest of the race, if I hadn't had all the little skids and tire scrubs that I did I think it would have worked perfectly :D. I definitely got a lot better wear out of the RMs with less fuel in the car too, in short practice races (full tank) I think I was at best going to make 8-10 laps per set but with less fuel they were easily going 12-15 laps depending on driver error :).
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on February 23, 2012, 12:23:58 PM: Great bunch to share the track with. I would have liked a closer battle with you Ex, but I guess it wasn't meant to be. Another time perhaps. I had a very good race. Not quite the pace I had practicing in the afternoon, but I still did well, I never put 4 wheels off the track, and never spun. My car was awesome.

Thanks for having me.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 23, 2012, 02:01:21 PM: i'd hate to see how fast you are when you are on pace!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 23, 2012, 02:17:44 PM: I had fun last night guys evn though I can't stand that track.

I need to send apologies to a few that I bumped with last night. I can't remember everyone but I believe Feldynn and Canius were 2. I thought in both cases that I was clear but evidently not and I'm sorry.

Overall a good time and I don't believe that pit strategy was as much a fector as I thought it would be. I managed to go 11 laps both times and finished with 8 strong laps. I think my 28th lap I finally hit one in the 32's but overall most were 33's 4's and all the way up to high 40's. Self inflicted of course.

I have to stop spinning out on lap 1 every time, it's really hard trying to keep up to the leaders when you're 15 seconds back after 1 lap :'(.

Good fun and I look forward to the next one. I'm sorry Looney discoed right away, that would really suck after working hard to get there and with all of the :fucking around at the start to have that happen >:(.

I hope this maintenance will take care of some major issues this time, here's hoping.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on February 23, 2012, 04:51:26 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on February 23, 2012, 02:01:21 PM
i'd hate to see how fast you are when you are on pace!

It was probably more sony/server related than 'my' pace. I got a lot of 1'31s in afternoon practice (alone in Dawson's lounge)...got One 1'31 in the 30 lap race, and it was around 1'31.9. I had a good mix of 32s and 33s.

Yeah, it definitely sucked that Looney disco'd. I think 3 discos from 13 on the starting grid.

Great track selection for this series. I'm not a fan of city courses, but the rest are cool.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 24, 2012, 10:31:17 AM: if you practice with short races instead of free run mode, you get a better idea of lap times and how consistent you can get them. The tire wear and aero aren't the same in free run.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on February 24, 2012, 11:31:32 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on February 24, 2012, 10:31:17 AM
if you practice with short races instead of free run mode, you get a better idea of lap times and how consistent you can get them. The tire wear and aero aren't the same in free run.

That could be it too. Other than my first practice with Dawson and Phreak, my only practice was free run in a lounge.

Also, my tune on the S2000. I did it specifically for Laguna. With the corkscrew and the next corner, you really have to be careful about the back end, especially in a light car that's a bit twitchy already.

Height Adjustable Suspension: (F/R)
Ride Height ~~-5/-10~~ -10/-5
Spring Rate 4.0/5.0
Damper: 1/3
Camber: 2.0/2.5

LSD
Initial: 10
Accel: 30
Decel: 10

I don't know how this will work at other tracks, but it should be quite stable.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on February 24, 2012, 01:38:57 PM: interesting... I may do up an S2k and see if I can get closer to your lap times. it's always educational to go back to a race locale afterwards and see how other people did what they did. Replays are great for that too.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 28, 2012, 08:52:49 AM: Sorry for the delay in posting results, I will have them soon! I was out of town for a few days and finally figured out how to import a replay last night (thanks Phreak) and I wrote down the results, but then forgot to bring them in to work today to update the standings :-\

They'll be up tonight, promise! Looking forward to the next race on the 7th, La Sarthe! :D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Feldynn on February 28, 2012, 09:02:29 AM: Which version of La Sarthe are we running?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 28, 2012, 12:44:41 PM: That information, as well as lap count, will be determined (and posted) tonight! ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-28-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 28, 2012, 10:16:57 PM: Race #4 Results!

1 - Turbo-Tuna S2000
2 - exXboxFan NSX+37.099
3 - PsychoPhreak Fairlady Z 300ZX + 1:01.325
4 - dawson864 Supra RZ +1:11.102
5 - metalfreak MR2 GT-S +1:20.391
6 - LastLeafFan NSX Type S Zero +1:42.847
7 - Feldynn Fairlady Z 300ZX +2:12.870
8 - Cainius S2000 + 1 lap
9 - Valrik Skyline GT-R V Spec II (R32) + 1 lap
10 - blasphemour NSX Type S Zero + 1 lap
11 - LooneyTuna S2000 DNF - disconnect on lap 2
12 - cecollazo Skyline GT-R V Spec (R33) DNF - disconnect on lap 1
13 - kngrsll Efini RX-7 Type R DNS - network failure pre-race
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-28-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on February 29, 2012, 11:02:36 AM: Is there a conflict on the 7rd with Baked's Birthday Bash the same night?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-28-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on February 29, 2012, 11:07:59 AM: Quote from: LastLeafFan on February 29, 2012, 11:02:36 AM
Is there a conflict on the 7rd with Baked's Birthday Bash the same night?

Only for an hour or so I would guess. ;)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-28-12)
Post by: BakedTuna on February 29, 2012, 01:34:04 PM: No conflict of interest the caterham @cape ring south is a drop in deal. Everyone here run their points series and drop by to say hi around that. :-)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on February 29, 2012, 10:44:27 PM: OKay cool.

BTW track configuration posted (2005 w/chicanes)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 01, 2012, 11:36:27 AM: Cool. I'm not sure I'll be entering, I'll ask about entry closer to the event.

Interesting note...I did a few laps in an S2000 and a Supra...same top speed on the track.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 01, 2012, 03:32:34 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on February 29, 2012, 10:44:27 PM
OKay cool.

BTW track configuration posted (2005 w/chicanes)

cool
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Feldynn on March 02, 2012, 12:19:44 AM: Quote from: Turbo-Tuna on March 01, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
Cool. I'm not sure I'll be entering, I'll ask about entry closer to the event.

Interesting note...I did a few laps in an S2000 and a Supra...same top speed on the track.

What kind of top speeds were you getting Turbo? I myself ran a few laps with my Fairlady 300ZX for proper test purposes, then the Twin Turbo GTO MR and an NSX Type S Zero just for fun / comparison.

Fairlady 300ZX
Top Speed: about 165mph
Best lap: 4'29.5xx

Mine felt pretty comfy, tire wear wasn't too bad considering it's weight (1510kg I think) and the stock trans is quite nice.

Twin Turbo GTO MR
Top Speed: about 160mph
Best Lap: 4'31.8xx

As much as I love that GTO MR between it's bulk and slightly long gears (for the power, the actual gear spacing is very nice for a stock trans) are making it just too slow to be competitive at spec for this series :(.

NSX Type S Zero
Top Speed: about 175mph
Best Lap: 4'25.1xx

Definitely has the speed advantage over my Fairlady on the straights with the higher speed, mine did seem a bit heavy wearing on the rear tires though (even without extra wear from excessive wheelspin) which could cause handling problems down the line or maybe mean an extra pitstop though it might just have been my non-setup / driving style :).

Should be an interesting race!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 02, 2012, 07:01:56 AM: I forget my exact top speeds. I doubt I hit 170 in them. Maybe 164, maybe 168....somewhere in between. Lap times I kind of remember. I only did one timed lap in each. Supra was 4'29, S2000 was 4'26.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 02, 2012, 08:00:20 AM: Interesting testing notes fellas. The reason I set the race for the chicane configuration actually had a lot to do with the vehicle top speeds. Since my regulations call for stock transmissions I felt that having a several mile long straight would be unfair for some vehicles. Unfair to the point of insurmountable. Without chicanes I got the following top speeds:

'91 NSX - 189
Supra RZ - 179
300ZX - 188
S2000 - 176
MR2 GT-S - 173
GTO Twin Turbo - 176

The faster cars were enjoying a 1-3 second advantage per lap as a result of that. While I enjoy the original "old school" La Sarthe configuration it just isn't meant for a series of this specification.

As an aside it blows my mind that the stock NSX transmission is geared for close to 200 mph (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 05, 2012, 07:54:32 PM: Looks like I will be running around 4'30. :-\
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 05, 2012, 10:48:36 PM: Looney, I was using basically the same tune listed on page 15 of this thread for a few laps and it worked well. I think my engine only had the bolt ons/turbos required to make 480PP, no power reduction. It may help, it may not. Good luck!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 06, 2012, 07:42:34 AM: Quote from: Turbo-Tuna on March 05, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
Looney, I was using basically the same tune listed on page 15 of this thread for a few laps and it worked well. I think my engine only had the bolt ons/turbos required to make 480PP, no power reduction. It may help, it may not. Good luck!

This one?
Height Adjustable Suspension: (F/R)
Ride Height -5/-10
Spring Rate 4.0/5.0
Damper: 1/3
Camber: 2.0/2.5

LSD
Initial: 10
Accel: 30
Decel: 10

In the "testing" I was doing raising my height seemed to help the most. My springs are similar but camber is reversed more or less. Also, when braking the back end always wants to swing around. Is there anything to prevent that? (could that be a lsd (decel) adjustment?

also....thanks for the confidence. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 06, 2012, 08:11:16 AM: ^You could try adjusting your brake bias more towards the front (if you haven't already). Stock is 5/5. Going to 5/3 or so should help.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 06, 2012, 08:16:23 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on March 06, 2012, 08:11:16 AM
^You could try adjusting your brake bias more towards the front (if you haven't already). Stock is 5/5. Going to 5/3 or so should help.

I'll see if that helps.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 06, 2012, 09:53:44 AM: Also, I fixed my tune. I had ride height listed backwards. On a twitchy car like this, I'll have my front end closer to the ground. This is probably more important at Laguna than at Sarthe.
My actual setting would have been -10/-5.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 07, 2012, 09:13:49 AM: I've been swamped at work (hence my lack of posting this week :laugh ) but I'm looking forward to seeing everyone tonight!

as usual, dawson864's lounge tonight
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 07, 2012, 09:32:01 AM: finally got a 4:27.9 out of my NSX.

look forward to racing w/ you all tonight.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on March 07, 2012, 10:03:49 AM: Seeing you's guys fast lap times doesn't worry me nearly as much as the sand pits, lack of runoff in 05, and my own driving do :P

Looking forward to tonight, have fun guys!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on March 07, 2012, 10:19:54 AM: This should be interesting tonight. I haven't run a single lap on this track.

Not ever! (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) Look out if you see me coming.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 07, 2012, 12:52:48 PM: caution to everyone... check your car immediately before entering track. My car got switched to Sports Softs while I was practicing in Lounge earlier, and I thought I was just sucking hardcore. Turns out wrong tires.

there really isn't that much difference between offline and online now days, and for this track, hardly any difference at all.

if you're just trying to practice your line around the track, do so in offline Practice mode so you can see your ghost and look for places to beat it.

the first S curve after the start is going to be tricky. please those with cars in front, brake a little early there and once we're through that we shouldn't be bunched up any more for the rest of the race.

but that is a place where one person could ruin the race for a lot of people...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 07, 2012, 12:56:29 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on March 07, 2012, 12:52:48 PM
caution to everyone... check your car immediately before entering track. My car got switched to Sports Softs while I was practicing in Lounge earlier, and I thought I was just sucking hardcore. Turns out wrong tires.

I knew it! ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 07, 2012, 12:58:46 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on March 07, 2012, 12:52:48 PM
caution to everyone... check your car immediately before entering track. My car got switched to Sports Softs while I was practicing in Lounge earlier, and I thought I was just sucking hardcore. Turns out wrong tires.

there really isn't that much difference between offline and online now days, and for this track, hardly any difference at all.

if you're just trying to practice your line around the track, do so in offline Practice mode so you can see your ghost and look for places to beat it.

the first S curve after the start is going to be tricky. please those with cars in front, brake a little early there and once we're through that we shouldn't be bunched up any more for the rest of the race.

but that is a place where one person could ruin the race for a lot of people...

:stoopid: great tips Ex! Especially regarding that first S turn.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Metal on March 07, 2012, 10:10:58 PM: goos racing tonight guys!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: Feldynn on March 08, 2012, 07:35:32 AM: Great racing last night! Used to be I never really cared much for the La Sarthe tracks but I started really enjoying the 2005 layout a lot a while back for some reason and had a blast last night! Spent the first 4-5 laps riding along on Exbox's drafty coat tails :), never could quite get enough of a jump on that NSX to make a pass stick but had a lot of fun trying, after some pitting I ended up behind Turbo and we spent a few laps dancing in the draft too.

As with Daytona Road a few races back it all came down to tire wear / pit strategy, I almost managed a 1 stop race but after a nasty slide near the end of lap 5 I decided to get tires which meant by the end of lap 11 I probably should have pit again but I figured "what the heck" and drove a particularly tender-footed (well tender-thumbed since I use a controller) last lap that felt like my tires were made of butter (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif).

Goos times :).
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 2-29-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on March 08, 2012, 08:29:22 AM: Sorry guys but I bailed after 2 laps. I didn't have a chance to practice at all on this track and probably haven't turned a lap there since license tests over a year ago.

I spent more time in the sand than on the track and wasn't having even the slightest bit of fun. While I wouldn't have been in anyone's way until maybe the 1/2 way point I'm sure I would have been a distraction.

While I know quite a few tracks and can run fairly well considering that I don't have time to practice I can't go to a place like that and keep up let alone stay on the track.

Anyway I hope everyone had a goos time and I will be there for Rome.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 08, 2012, 08:31:33 AM: Understandable LLF, sometimes there just isn't a chance to practice. Looking forward to seeing you in Italy!

Congrats to Turbo for back to back wins! And congrats to everyone for a fun race. Seemed like a lot of close and clean fun last night, though personally I spent 80% of the race mid pack with no one in sight of me (front or rear). My dang Supra lost 18 horsepower over the course of the race. Could have sworn my oil was fresh. Oh well I doubt an additional 7 PP would have elevated me to the front of the field. To beat Turbo or exXbox I think an additional 20 PP would be needed...or maybe a Honda product :laugh

The race schedule returns us to a city course after a long streak of purpose built track so...look out for those walls! (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 08, 2012, 09:20:39 AM: Very fun race indeed. Ex put down a kickass Q time - over a second better than mine. I had a bad start due to a qualifying 'glitch', and in the first few laps, I had a lot of offs while those two ran away from the pack. Poor Dawson had an off early on lap 1 which made him fight his was back from the start. Ex pitted early, and I got in some good laps with Feldynn. Ex realized too late that he had to pit a second time, and that handed me the win. I really think you could have won had you pitted after 8 or 9.

Very good driving guys. In the end 'strategy' decided the race...the fastest driver on track didn't win this week. That's the way it goes sometimes.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 08, 2012, 09:57:05 AM: yea I know I'm really kicking myself for not having a better pit strategy going in.

should have stayed out when I had feldynn apparently staying out right behind me. should have learned that lesson after DRC.

also should have pitted around 9 or 10 in order to save the lead I had. mathematically I could have pulled ahead of turbo again since I would be only a few seconds back (had 20 sec lead) and fresh tires while his would have started to get pretty worn.

everything's a learning expereince I guess!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on March 08, 2012, 06:10:56 PM: There's a lot I want to say about how awesome that was and how much fun I had, but it's dinner time so I'll stick with very nice race Turbo, and here's a few shots from the event, enjoy!
http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5-2012/90s-Sarthe05 (http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5-2012/90s-Sarthe05)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 09, 2012, 07:52:02 AM: Quote from: TunaPhreak on March 08, 2012, 06:10:56 PM
There's a lot I want to say about how awesome that was and how much fun I had, but it's dinner time so I'll stick with very nice race Turbo, and here's a few shots from the event, enjoy!
http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5-2012/90s-Sarthe05 (http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5-2012/90s-Sarthe05)

Congrats on your fine finish Phreak! Thanks for making me look like I was part of the race in your photos. :copz:
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 09, 2012, 09:08:42 AM: Quote from: TunaPhreak on March 08, 2012, 06:10:56 PM
There's a lot I want to say about how awesome that was and how much fun I had, but it's dinner time so I'll stick with very nice race Turbo, and here's a few shots from the event, enjoy!
http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5-2012/90s-Sarthe05 (http://phr3ak.n3.net/GT5-2012/90s-Sarthe05)

nice! psycho.

note: that was actually race #5
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on March 09, 2012, 02:30:44 PM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on March 09, 2012, 09:08:42 AM

note: that was actually race #5

D'oh! Thanks! I think that's only mentioned in the caption right? I'm not too worried. I realized after I think I'm the only one I didn't get a single shot of!

And thanks Looney, I ran the race I was hoping to and finished very very happily (Ahead of Ex was enough to make my night!). I was actually hanging with turbo for a long time, but then a mental error gave him a few seconds, and my sticky brake pedal required a fast unplug and replug of the 7pin connector, and by then he had all but ran away. I was very happy to see so many different people throughout the race, there were a lot of packs of 2 or more I saw out there at different times :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 16, 2012, 01:37:55 PM: Sorry I haven't posted the lap count for this race yet. I was out of town for a week and have just been getting back into the swing of things. Should have that info up tonight as long as nothing comes up.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 16, 2012, 05:51:07 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on March 16, 2012, 01:37:55 PM
Sorry I haven't posted the lap count for this race yet. I was out of town for a week and have just been getting back into the swing of things. Should have that info up tonight as long as nothing comes up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv1VP7j6YRg

:lmao :lolz :laugh
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-8-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 16, 2012, 07:58:47 PM: ^lol, nicely done there.

Okay for Rome the lap count will be 42.

42 laps.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 21, 2012, 12:29:20 PM: Bump for race tonight!

See you assholes in there ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on March 21, 2012, 12:51:13 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on March 21, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
Bump for race tonight!

See you assholes in there ;D

Assholes and brake lights, things you'll see because you'll be behind me :P
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 21, 2012, 06:34:41 PM: Lounge is up!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 22, 2012, 05:32:09 PM: Great race in Rome. I don't know how other guys' races went (except for Metal :()), but Ex, me, and Dawson had quite a battle for the podium spots. They spent some time together, then I spent some time with Ex, then I spent some time with Dawson, then Dawson ran away. On fresh tires, Dawson was gone; on old tires, I gained. I caught him on the last lap (he had worse tire wear I believe) but didn't have the execution to take first. Most of our battling wasn't actually tight battling, but gaps usually between 3 and 6 seconds. Great job everyone. Thanks for the race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 23, 2012, 07:28:57 AM: thanks turbo, agree a good battle between the three of us even though as you said there were small gaps most of the time. We could always see each other, so that was nice.

near the beginning of the race, did you notice I let you by? I could really tell that I was falling b ack from Dawson and that you were having to be real careful with me in front of you. I let you by and took advantage of your draft to stay in contact with Dawson, hopefully being able to capitalize later. IT was worth a try, but didnt' pan out because Dawson ran such a clean and basically flawless race.

I'll say again what I said that night after some people left.

Dawson won that race. Not his NSX. He kicked ass and got the job done very well. Any mistakes and the car would not have saved him.

I am switching to another car if that's still okay. I'm not going to listen to any more bitching about the NSX. I'm getting pretty sick of it.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 23, 2012, 07:43:45 AM: I wouldn't complain about a driver picking a certain car that's in the list. I can probably have equal results in my S2000 as the premium NSX. I don't think you should chage. I would, however, suggest that there are two classes of cars in this event.

Heavy cars (Skyline GT-R, Fairlady Z 300ZX, Supra RZ, GTO/3000GT)
Light cars ('91 Acura NSX, '91 Mazda Efini RX-7 Type R, '99 S2000, '97 MR2 GT-S, Honda NSX Type S Zero)

If I'm in a light car, I should beat Ex and Dawson in a heavy car. If either of you are in a light car, you should beat me in a heavy car
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 23, 2012, 08:00:41 AM: Turbo that is an interesting thought. I spent several hours evaluating these cars before creating this serious but it would seem that my testing was flawed. Also not including a penalty ballast rule was another big oversight :( I suppose we could retro-actively put in place the 2 class system if nobody protests.

exXboxFan, thanks for the kind words! I've been leery of MR cars since I love trail braking so much but I spent some time tuning this car to my tastes and it worked out really well. I wouldn't say that my race was "flawless", as Turbo was witness to one big "oops" on my part but luckily I recovered quickly and Turbo's quick reflexes prevented any contact between us. Still you are correct in that it well executed. Maybe the Supra is still capable of winning, but if so I'm not talented enough to make it happen. :-\

As to the race itself, it was a great one with a lot of tight racing. For the first 8-10 laps I was amazed at how close Turbo and Ex were racing. Half of the time I glanced at my map it seemed like their 2 arrows had become 1. Turbo you were definitely correct regarding tire wear. When I had the fresh rubber I could increase the gap. But after they started wearing you would reel me in. I spent some time reviewing the replay last night and your tire wear was much much better than my own. After 10-12 laps I was down to 30% tread (more or less) and you still were above 50%.

Being smooth and braking early to conserve tires were important in this race, so that a 2 stop strategy was possible. Pitting at laps 14 and 28 was my game plan and I was able to stick to it.

Fastest single lap times were ridiculously close at the top. Myself, Turbo and Ex all had fastest times just a few hundredths of a second apart. :o
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on March 23, 2012, 08:22:44 AM: I am going to retire from the series and last night was a great example of why. First I can't for the life of me keep the NSX on the track.

2rd I know that I caused at least 2 incidents which I have to apologize for to quite a few racers but there are too many to name.

I never have time to practice and I just can't show up at the time of the race and go. This car is fast but really doesn't like to turn, I was spinning out just going through a gradual corner. Maybe it's because I can't seem to find the time to get a decent tune under it.

I had my wife and kids nattering at me the whole time and then when I had an incident with Dawson which I do not blame you for, but it made me think what am I doing here when I'm now 2 laps down and only on lap 13?

The worst part was that for the 1rd 5-6 laps I was in 4st and right with Turbo before I started wall humping.

Sorry to everyone if I screwed up their race, I'm just too competitive for my own good.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 23, 2012, 09:00:25 AM: I'm very sorry to see you go LLF as you are in "my league". :'( I do however understand your frustration as I often get in the same boat as you were last night. If you are behind, and by yourself all fun quickly drains. Like yourself, my practice is very limited for these evnets. (That family thing really does add unneeded pressure etc) I am only able to get in about 30 minutes of practice for any race I get into, and I try to tune but I just have not "gotten it" yet :(. I am not good enough to be at the top because of those things, so I don't expect to be there and that is ok. I just hope to be competitive, not ruin anyone else's race and to be able to race with someone, no matter where. That is what makes racing truly fun for me.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 23, 2012, 09:49:09 AM: Yeah, not a flawless race Wolfy, but very good. You got some wall a few times too, but didn't really hurt much. I think we all rubbed the walls more than we would have liked. This difference in this race though was how fast you were on fresh tires. That created a gap that took too long to close, and by the time we closed it, it was either too late or didn't matter, or we didn't execute well enough. It was my third race in the series, probably the most fun.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on March 23, 2012, 09:59:30 AM: Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on March 23, 2012, 07:28:57 AM
I am switching to another car if that's still okay. I'm not going to listen to any more bitching about the NSX. I'm getting pretty sick of it.
If you want to switch for a more personal challenge (I'd say you're def one of the fastest in this group) then I say go for it. Sick of people bitching about the NSX though? Who? Someone will always have something to bitch about, and someone will ALWAYS bitch about the NSX :P

LLF, sorry to see you go, but definitely understand your logic. Really hope to see you in other fun evnets though that require less planning! I too often get too little time to practice/setup for these races, usually limited to an hour or so the night before. I came in with NO pit strategy, and that really hurt my placement. I've also gotten used to non-city courses so I pitted way before necessary, thinking I shouldn't run my front tires down too far, not thinking that there's walls, and if I blow a turn, I'll bounce and lose a sec maybe, not 15-20 like an entire pit stop.

After running 42 laps, I knew exactly how I wished I tuned the car. I made a few minor adjustments and ran a practice 15 lap race solo. I was able to keep tires for all 15 laps, keep them more balanced, and times went from about 8 laps in the 15's (still can't put a 14 down in this car no matter what I tried) and only got into the 19's by the 15th lap, so I know I blew this one on my own.

Ahhh hindsight, if I knew then what I knew now....

But again, great racing by the guys up front as expected, and looking forward to whatever may come next, I'll really need to start practicing if I have hopes of retaining a podium spot at the finish of the season. Honestly, I'm pretty sure I'd be lower on that list already had I not been one of the few to make every single race... Whatever, it's all fun I hope, and I personally couldn't ask for a better group of dudes to race with!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 23, 2012, 11:34:17 AM: LLF, I'm sorry to see you exit the series as well. You have good reasons, so of course it is totally understandable.

As far as vehicle preparation goes regarding tunes, I intentionally limited what tuning could be done to these cars to prevent problems like this. The sport suspension eliminates a huge chunk of tuning adjustability, as does the stock transmission with fixed ratios. For me personally I really just find one tune and stick with it for all the races. The only thing I really spend much time adjusting track to track is the LSD (and that's only if I don't like the way the car performs at the track in practice. If I like it right off the bat I don't touch anything). Then it's just a matter of determining maximum tire life and craft a pit strategy. In your case LLF I'm sorry it wasn't enough.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 23, 2012, 12:14:13 PM: See, even with more limited tuning I'm lost. :( One of these days...
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 23, 2012, 12:52:19 PM: lastleaf, I think I tried to go around you after turbo did, but I zigged and you zagged. It was NO big deal because it didn't really slow me much and I was still close behind turbo.

sorry to see you go if you have made a final decision. I'll keep you on my FL.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on March 23, 2012, 01:01:58 PM: Thanks for the thoughts guys. I have been looking more deeply into the LSD settings as I believe that this could be where I'm struggling.

I am going to give it another go before the next race and see if I can get it a bit more stable.

I will race if I feel I won't get in the way and at least compete mid pack.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-16-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 23, 2012, 01:06:13 PM: Quote from: TunaPhreak on March 23, 2012, 09:59:30 AM
Quote from: Ex-Xboxfan on March 23, 2012, 07:28:57 AM
I am switching to another car if that's still okay. I'm not going to listen to any more bitching about the NSX. I'm getting pretty sick of it.
If you want to switch for a more personal challenge (I'd say you're def one of the fastest in this group) then I say go for it. Sick of people bitching about the NSX though? Who? Someone will always have something to bitch about, and someone will ALWAYS bitch about the NSX :P

I also came in with next to zero practice (maybe 45 min at lunch same day) as I was and am deep into trying to purchase a car (the evo deal I told you guys about has since fallen through because of a dumbass seller that doesn't understand how cashier's checks work.)

I had no pit strategy either, except that once I had a couple guys in front, the strategy quickly became "DO WHATEVER THEY DO" lol

as for bitching, I've heard a lot of it but i'm not naming names. I am not claiming to be any sort of elite racer or the best at anything, but I don't like it when people try to insinuate that it's all car. I did really good in snakeyes' ACR cup last year and I won the first race this year. We all have the SAME car in that series.

I'd rather win or get podiums in something else going forward, so either I can prove the naysayers correct and lose without an NSX, or continue to place well with something else and hopefully shut them up.

@Dawson, maybe instead of classes or weight penalties, you could do something to even out the weight of all the cars? just a thought.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 23, 2012, 02:35:43 PM: at most I have heard comments about a car being better than others when it appeared to be an obvious advantage. I don't think I have really heard any bithcing. :-\
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 23, 2012, 03:28:20 PM: "Someone will always have something to bitch about, and someone will ALWAYS bitch about the NSX"

Yep. The NSX is probably the most singled out/complained about car as a 'go to' car by GT5 gamers. I try not to bitch about car choice, but I won't hesitate to call the NSX the best car in the class. I'd rank the NSX Type S (or Type S Zero) as the best, then the MR-2, then the '91 NSX and S2000, then the RX7 '91.

However, driving the best car does not guarantee wins. One less mistake and I could have been ahead of Dawson at the end.

I would personally hope that you don't change cars. I honestly believe it's not the best car. Can other people change cars to get a better ride? (I'm not really sure)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 23, 2012, 04:12:43 PM: I stated in the first post that people could make a vehicle change once (though the fine print says to do so after only 1-2 races so I technically violated that rule this past race :-X )

Off the top of my head both Psycho and Feldynn started with the Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo, and then both switched to the Fairlady. cecollazo started out in the MR2 GT-S, but mainly just because he was late to the party and didn't have many other options. After a bunch of people dropped out of the series he switched to the R33 GTR at my suggestion (I figured AWD would be good for him since he doesn't play much).

And then I switched from the Supra to the NSX this past race :P
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 23, 2012, 08:16:08 PM: I don't think I could beat the guys even with the NSX. :-X
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Metal on March 24, 2012, 07:24:24 AM: well i'll belly up to the table. I was one complaining about the NSX, i know you guys are fast anyway, and it was probably out of frustration with my consistent bad race luck than anything. If you wanna say i suck, then fine i really couldn't care less, but i know that MR-2 is quick, but i can never touch the NSX. I'm not saying its overpowered, or that its a crutch that's a "insta-fast" car. You still have to drive it, and a fast driver is always going to be fast. That being said, i can never touch the NSX's times with my car. For example; in the Madrid race: Ex, you made up a 15 some odd second lead that i had on you, and then just blew away. Maybe its the car, maybe i'm just a shit driver, cause i know i suck at tuning; but that is fine i enjoy the challenge and look forward to it every time this race series is coming up on the calendar. If i wasn't having fun, i would stop showing up. I enjoy racing with everyone in this series (even the ones i keep getting love taps from ;) ) and maybe i needed to vent for a second before i settled into my race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Brindle on March 24, 2012, 10:41:43 AM: Hope you don't mind my (http://i.imgur.com/hcqc0vy.gif)

The NSX happens to be naturally well balanced, hence a dominant car. HOWEVER, these type of cars do require skill to drive them at the fast pace they can be run at. They usually have a tendency to want to oversteer on entry and exit (loose is fast), but it still needs to be well controlled to put down good consistent times.

So in short, it still comes down to the driver. It's never all car, someone has to make the car stop, go and turn in a smooth and timely fashion. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 24, 2012, 02:25:23 PM: Well said Fried.

And Metal, I for one hold you in high regards as a driver. If I was running the MR2 in this series I wouldn't be surprised if I finished last every time!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on March 24, 2012, 04:43:01 PM: I consider you good driver also Metal. I would believe that bad luck has hurt your results as much or more than your driving. I think that MR2 has more potential at the series spec than most cars (you've seen its potential a few times, I'm sure), but it's probably the hardest to tighten the reins on. It may be the least predictable car of the bunch.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Feldynn on March 24, 2012, 08:01:47 PM: To throw another couple of pennies into the opinions pot here are some observations from me.

It's never "just" the car, it's always a combination of things such as driver + car + track. For example after the Rome race I hopped into a couple of different cars, some that were on the list and some that weren't but were still 90s Japanese, during that race I averaged 1'15 to 1'17 for lap times with (once I figured out how to drive) some mid 1'14 "fast" laps. I tried the MR2 and NSX Type S Zero (and the Nissan Silvia K's Aero (S14) '93, a light FR car) but the results were not much different, I wasn't magically faster and in fact ran very similar times to the 300ZX I used in the race.

The big difference on that track I found between race and post race alternate cars was the tire wear, given the relatively twisty nature of Rome the heavier cars (300ZX around 1500kg) used tires much more quickly than the lighter cars (around 1200kg). However that doesn't always hold true on every track, think back to Daytona Road, if I remember right my tires wore similarly with Ex's (Me in the 300ZX, him in an NSX I think) and the final result came down to pitstops.

Also La Sarthe is another example worth noting, a few cars had better top end than others when it came to the straight so in open air they had the advantage however if another car could stick close enough to use the draft then the advantage went away. Working examples again were myself in the 300ZX dogging Ex in the NSX for the first 5 or so laps, we lost eachother in pitstops but I picked up Turbo's coat tails I think (it was an S2000 I followed) and basically so long as I kept in draft range on the straight bits both cars were pretty even and it resulted in some great racing action.

Some cars are also better with more tuning than they are in a series like this, great example of that is the Mitsubishi GTO / 3000GT. I love the car with some weight reduction and other things done to it, but at the specs for this series I found it to be a bit too unwieldy which was a shame. Also I find I'm mediocre in MR cars generally speaking but others are much better at driving them.

Anyway, I'm not sure now where I was going with this post :laugh, my train of thought pulled into a siding a number of times and I think has finally gotten derailed so I'm going to stop rambling :).
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: Metal on March 25, 2012, 12:12:44 PM: Thanks for the posts guys, and I LOVE my little matte green MR-2 it is such a blast to drive, but she is a finnicky vixen to say the least (not a huge surprise i like the car then lol) i have a great time in this series and with every driver i have come into contact either with/guest/associated with the Tunas. Turbo, i think you hit the nail on the head, this car is awesome, but really unpredictable which can be both exciting and disappointing at the same time. I am relishing the challenge, however; and can't wait to hit the track with you guys again.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 26, 2012, 12:46:25 PM: Lap count posted ^-^
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-23-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on March 27, 2012, 11:19:57 AM: Quote from: Turbo-Tuna on March 23, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
However, driving the best car does not guarantee wins. One less mistake and I could have been ahead of Dawson at the end.
:stoopid:
And also what Feldynn said. So I think we're all happy in here again right? ^-^
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on March 27, 2012, 03:05:48 PM: yep. it's good we had the discussion though.

metal I agree with the others that you're one of the best in the series... but also have bad luck with traffic etc. Concerning Madrid, I just know that course really well and find it easy to master. Rome is one I tolerate but don't really like or have much comepetive experience with. It's still a mystery to me how to get the fastest line there.

I'll stil lbe trying to see if any other cars are comfortable to me and maybe still switch if it's okay.

We had agreed to a rule a few pages back that each race the 2nd place could pick the car of the winner so that the NSX would not always be first, but I think it's NOT been first enough times to negate the need for that type of rule.

And as Turbo suggested, it might actually be the third or fourth fastest anyways.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on March 27, 2012, 05:47:34 PM: We should add one more race after the trophies are handed out with just the NSX's. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on March 27, 2012, 09:25:31 PM: That's a pretty good idea Looney. Bonus Round! I may start plotting :laugh (evil laugh)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 02, 2012, 09:30:36 AM: What kind of times are people getting for this one?

My best are low 2:01s so far.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 02, 2012, 10:16:40 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 02, 2012, 09:30:36 AM
What kind of times are people getting for this one?

My best are low 2:01s so far.

Times? Oh ya, there's a race coming up. :palm2 I will do some recon tonight I hope.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 02, 2012, 10:51:08 AM: The NSX Type S (and Zero) can break 2 minutes for sure. I haven't tested my S2000 yet, but I plan on showing up on Wdnesday night.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 02, 2012, 06:05:48 PM: 158.6
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 02, 2012, 06:55:57 PM: daaaaaaaaamn :o
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 03, 2012, 07:17:26 AM: I did testing some time and got mid 159 in the S2000.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: DudeTuna on April 03, 2012, 02:50:23 PM: I would like to join the race tomorrow night if that's cool? I looked at lunch today (I know, I know, I already read about the NSX love lol) and have an NSX to specs.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 03, 2012, 06:25:48 PM: That would be cool Dude!

and 158.011 ;D

My last time post was from practice, this one is from my lobby. Virtually no difference now. Nice. :jimi:
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 03, 2012, 09:23:45 PM: Come on out Dude

I'll leave the door open for ya :angel:
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 04, 2012, 05:49:40 AM: Quote from: LooneyTuna on April 03, 2012, 06:25:48 PM
That would be cool Dude!

and 158.011 ;D

My last time post was from practice, this one is from my lobby. Virtually no difference now. Nice. :jimi:

(http://i.imgur.com/kdCxV9H.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: DudeTuna on April 04, 2012, 08:35:24 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 03, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
Come on out Dude

I'll leave the door open for ya :angel:

Great, see you all tonight then.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Feldynn on April 04, 2012, 01:37:35 PM: I likely won't be able to make it tonight's race :(, sorry for the short notice.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on April 04, 2012, 01:50:32 PM: Cool, Dude's coming out. Warm up the Van.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 04, 2012, 04:42:14 PM: :stoopid:

Quote from: Feldynn on April 04, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
I likely won't be able to make it tonight's race :(, sorry for the short notice.

Sorry you probably won't make it Feldynn! Short notice is fine. It's no notice that pisses me off >:(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Metal on April 05, 2012, 01:18:09 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 04, 2012, 04:42:14 PM
:stoopid:

Quote from: Feldynn on April 04, 2012, 01:37:35 PM
I likely won't be able to make it tonight's race :(, sorry for the short notice.

Sorry you probably won't make it Feldynn! Short notice is fine. It's no notice that pisses me off >:(

:( Sorry wolf, i was getting some sleep to get ready for 3rds tonight, and i completely overslept. Hope the race went well for everyone!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 05, 2012, 05:05:47 AM: Kind of a low turnout, but a good race. After a few laps, things got (somewhat) sorted out and Looney, Ex, and I proceeded to run a long battle of lap times to see who would take what podium spots. I managed to hold it together and take first - I only had one major screw up. Looney eventually gained and held second. Ex finished third. It was a fun race. Some of the others had bad luck, but sounded like they had fun racing.

Thanks again for the race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 05, 2012, 05:36:08 AM: I ran nearly a perfect race, for me, outside of a "half spin" and was able to get into 3th after about 8 or 9 laps. After missing several opportunities to pass X, I finally did it with 2 laps left, albeit with an unexpected pass. It was nice to see the leader for part of the race. ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on April 05, 2012, 06:59:53 AM: I need to apologize to everyone for not making it. Kind of a family moment last night with my 9 year old. Lets just say it was school related and our meeting went until 9:30 when I realized how late it was it was too late.

Too bad because I did practice for this one and like the track, it just wasn't meant to be.

I should mention that my son is now grounded for a week and with a four day weekend starting tomorrow it should be interesting.

Barring any more incidents I will be there next week as I like Indy Road too. I hope everyone had fun and see you all next week.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 3-26-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 05, 2012, 07:03:19 AM: Quote from: Metal on April 05, 2012, 01:18:09 AM
:( Sorry wolf, i was getting some sleep to get ready for 3rds tonight, and i completely overslept. Hope the race went well for everyone!

Hmmm, that's the excuse I always get from women I'm trying to date! (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) It's okay though, despite the low turnout it was fun. ~~I'm also wondering what happened to LLF?~~ Sorry you missed out LLF, but sounds like you had a good reason. Indy RC is next, but it is the 18th not next week ;)

I was definitely my own worst enemy last night and while I don't think my tune was good enough to win I think if I hadn't erred at all I could have made 3rd or 4th (no disrespect to the top finishers of this race you guys did awesome...I'm merely talking potential). Oh well that is racing! In the back of the field I had a good time mixing it up with cecollazo. Unfortunately he botched his pit strategy so in the end he was an easy pass.

I either witnessed or experienced lag last night and honestly I don't know which it was. Cecollazo was jumping around a lot when he was in front of me for 3-4 laps. I drove through clouds of smoke and dust at almost every chicane, and that made me wonder. And DudeTuna's car was very twitchy around me, but only for 1-2 laps near the mid-point of the race. Prior to that any wheel to wheel action we had was free of any lag. So when I saw him darting back and forth in my mirror I got a little nervous. And when his car rammed me hard into the 2nd chicane's wall I knew that it was lag and naturally not Dude. Shortly after that Dude left the room. I hope he wasn't pissed off or anything. :-\

Finishing order:
Turbo-Tuna - 1:03.55.028
Looney_Tuna - +02.751
exXboxFan - +06.353
PsychoPhreak - +47.271
dawson864 - +1:23.698
cecollazo - +1:45.707
DudeTuna - DNF

fastest lap times always intrigue me. Here are last night's:

Looney - 1:59.311
Turbo - 1:59.575
exBox - 1:59.634
dawson - 2:00.045
psycho - 2:01.093
cecoll - 2:01.997
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: DudeTuna on April 05, 2012, 09:45:01 AM: I was just dropping in for a race and had not been in for the entire series so when you mentioned lag and me hitting you I left to avoid messing up the race. Sorry all.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 05, 2012, 10:29:20 AM: Quote from: DudeTuna on April 05, 2012, 09:45:01 AM
I was just dropping in for a race and had not been in for the entire series so when you mentioned lag and me hitting you I left to avoid messing up the race. Sorry all.

Too bad it didn't work for last nights race. You were running me down when you left. :( I hope you come back next race.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 11, 2012, 01:11:09 PM: Anybody run some times for the next race yet? I've been so busy that I haven't played GT5 since the race last Wednesday! :(

I'm sure I'll play at some point this weekend so look for the lap count to be posted on Sunday or Monday.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 11, 2012, 02:16:52 PM: nope. not yet. I hope to soon though.

I've been lazy about GT lately... :-[
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 12, 2012, 06:10:29 AM: I got nothin yet also. I hope to get a few laps in at some point. I really like this track too. I may not try it though until Monday night. Can't wait to race again.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: TunaPhreak on April 12, 2012, 09:20:48 AM: I'm out this week :(

I'll miss racing, but will be replacing it by drinking heavily in Colorado, where the altitude gets ya drunk faster!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 12, 2012, 01:01:59 PM: ahh, then you can afford the $50 shot of scotch that the yuppies drink! afterall, you'll only need two!

sorry to hear you won't be there though. have fun and don't get arrested. oh, and report bck if you see some white box vans full of japanese men & women taking lots of photos of Pikes Peak. ;) (seriously, there's a guy already watching this and reporting to the PSN forum. lol)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 12, 2012, 08:24:45 PM: I did some practice laps and a lonely 10 lap race. I saw lots of 1'39s and (slight guess) would not want to push tires beyond 12 laps or so. Lap 10 was getting quite weak, more than 12 may be useless.

(side notes, 30 laps should be around 50 min, 35 laps should around an hour. I don't know what the Wolfman will throw at us, but for me, those ranges result in a two stop race. There's no way I'll go 15 laps on a set of tires)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 13, 2012, 06:42:53 AM: Quote from: Turbo-Tuna on April 12, 2012, 08:24:45 PM
I did some practice laps and a lonely 10 lap race. I saw lots of 1'39s and (slight guess) would not want to push tires beyond 12 laps or so. Lap 10 was getting quite weak, more than 12 may be useless.

(side notes, 30 laps should be around 50 min, 35 laps should around an hour. I don't know what the Wolfman will throw at us, but for me, those ranges result in a two stop race. There's no way I'll go 15 laps on a set of tires)

You are correct in that thinking Turbo, as I try to set up the races to be 50-60 minutes long. I'm going camping this weekend so won't be fiddling with GT5 till Sunday afternoon.

And yes Looney I realize its not a fancy trip this time...gotta slum it every once in a while :( :P
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 13, 2012, 07:09:32 AM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 13, 2012, 06:42:53 AM

And yes Looney I realize its not a fancy trip this time...gotta slum it every once in a while :( :P

Glad you're "keeping it real" this weekend. Don't worry though, you're secret is safe with me. :D (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 13, 2012, 07:42:18 AM: wolfpack, we're doing S2000s on Saturday (GT Sats) but you may already be on your camping trip.

hopefully it will be warm enough to do some camping myself sometime soon...

(evo on unpaved gravel/dirt is always a blast. gotta get me some mudflaps first though)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 16, 2012, 08:41:33 PM: Thanks for that invite Ex but yeah I was already camping at that time.

Seems like high 1:30s are the times to aim for in this race.

I always like to err on the side of a longer race over a short one so let's set the lap count at 35 for this one.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 17, 2012, 06:22:36 AM: I'm questionable for this. We're playing some ball after dinner. Hopefully we can get home by 8 or 8:30, and ready for the lounge by 9. I'll try to be there.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-5-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 17, 2012, 09:10:06 AM: Thanks for the heads up. I'm actually going out for dinner at 7pm. But getting home by 830 shouldn't be an issue :D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 17, 2012, 01:10:17 PM: hmm... turbo may be gone, and if Dawson has a few drinks with that "dinner" I may be able to win one of these again!

(ok now he won't now that I said that.... DOH!)

:lolz
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 18, 2012, 01:38:46 PM: hahaha, see you guys tonight! Also can someone remind Metal so he doesn't miss this! >:(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Wiz on April 18, 2012, 01:44:28 PM: Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 18, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Also can someone remind Metal so he doesn't miss this! >:(

Hey Metal, there is a race tonight!

There you go. :)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 18, 2012, 02:00:59 PM: Quote from: TunaWiz on April 18, 2012, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 18, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Also can someone remind Metal so he doesn't miss this! >:(

~~Hey Metal, there is a race tonight!~~
HEY METAL, THERE IS A RACE TONIGHT!

There you go. :)

Fix'd. I don't think he can hear you without caps.

:lolz
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Feldynn on April 18, 2012, 02:11:35 PM: Unfortunately I'm going to have to miss this week's race (again), last few days before my bro heads home so I really can't dedicate that much time for one race unfortunately. On the bright side he's leaving this Saturday so if there are any races left in the series I should be able to attend those :D.

And just for giggles ...

Quote from: LooneyTuna on April 18, 2012, 02:00:59 PM
Quote from: TunaWiz on April 18, 2012, 01:44:28 PM
Quote from: WolfpackS2k on April 18, 2012, 01:38:46 PM
Also can someone remind Metal so he doesn't miss this! >:(

~~Hey Metal, there is a race tonight!~~
HEY METAL, THERE IS A RACE TONIGHT!

HEY METAL!!! THERE IS A RACE TONIGHT!!!

There you go. :)

Fix'd. I don't think he can hear you without caps.

(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
I fixed it too :).
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: LastLeafFan on April 18, 2012, 02:24:07 PM: I just got a call that my youngest has an assembly tonight and I will probably not get back in time for this. Another shame because I like this track too and I have been working on the car this week.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 18, 2012, 04:46:26 PM: A shame to hear fellas, for both of you.

The lounge is up now! Just keep in mind that I won't actually be "in" there till 830 or so :-X
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: GTP_Rylvir on April 18, 2012, 05:43:12 PM: Any openings for someone to race in tonights race?
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 18, 2012, 06:39:57 PM: Come on in man, field looks a little light :(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Metal on April 18, 2012, 10:51:59 PM: OH MY GAWD.....

what a race! i was literally out of breath at the end. Fantastic scrapping with ya Dawson and Turbo.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 19, 2012, 06:39:49 AM: Nice win Metal. I ran much better when it didn't matter, getting steady 139.3-5s. :(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-7-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 19, 2012, 08:45:42 AM: That was a pretty crazy race, and what a photo finish! Great win Metal, can't believe you beat me by 0.038 seconds! :o Hat's off you to on top notch driving. Starting around lap 20 you were reeling me in a tiny bit every lap it seemed. And i was running consistent 1:39s-1:40s almost error free. Amazingly well done my friend!

Looney, those were some great laps you were pulling at the end; seems like almost everyone was running pretty hot in the last third of the race.

It was unfortunate that lag struck nearly every one of us at one time or another (makes me think that I'm an unsuitable host and that maybe my network caused the issue to strike everyone?). I hope that lag didn't deeply impact anyone's race in too negative a manner. Lag rammed me into the wall at the very first turn and cost me 8 seconds, which I was able to gain back. I hope that my close battles with Turbo and Looney weren't grossly impacted by lag. And that goes for any other position changes (as I'm just mentioning the ones I experienced).

In the excitement I forgot to take a screen shot of the results but as there were (unfortunately) only 6 of us at the finish I was able to remember the order.

Results

1) Metal
2) WolfpackS2k +0.038
3) Turbo-Tuna ~+5.834
4) LooneyTuna ~ +35.xxx
5) cecollazo + 1 lap
6) GTP_Rylvir
7) skyfire3000 (DNF)

The time intervals are mostly off the top of my head, I'll adjust them later.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 19, 2012, 12:20:53 PM: sounds like a great race up front at the end. sorry I had to miss it.

I fully intended to be back by race time from a dinner for my son's birthday. It went long and I had no idea how late it was until I was in my car driving home and it was already passed 9:00pm.

I decided it was better not to speed home and tell the kid to tuck himself into bed on his birthday.

But like I told dawson in an XMB msg, this will make the points closer for the last race :angel:

Thanks Metal for keeping it from getting TOO close.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 19, 2012, 12:21:40 PM: I good race indeed. Thanks again guys. I wish I could have stayed with you guys.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 20, 2012, 07:35:50 AM: damn... this really sucks.

I just looked at the calendar and realized I will be gone for the final race, AND that means I lose the points lead to Dawson, Looney, and maybe Turbo too.

I have to go to a conference for work in Chicago!

I doubt there's any way to bring my stuff with me on an Amtrak train, set it up, and all that crap.

oh well, I did my best and leading while I could participate will have to be good enough, I guess.

Kinda bummed to miss out on the last two... :(
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 20, 2012, 10:22:00 AM: Good racing with you Ex. I'm hoping for another evening series that we can run.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 20, 2012, 02:28:00 PM: you too turbo!

if we can both run a full series then that would be a nice close one, for sure.

this is sorta like a rider in the Tour de France losing the yellow jersey due to a crash or something. definitely sucks after so many races to have this happen.

furthering my career is a little more important I guess ;) (a little)
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 22, 2012, 05:03:13 PM: Damn man, it really blows that you won't be around for the last one. I'd offer to change the race date but that wouldn't be fair to all parties involved. I'm sure we'll all be running in another series again soon :D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 23, 2012, 09:04:46 AM: I know, I thought about asking but it's not fair as you said.

I've got a Kart-based event that I've been wanting to do for some time and I think I'm going to take this opportunity to hash it out and get it posted here and elsewhere to begin building it up.

More on that soon...

ENJOY THE LAST RACE GUYS!!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-19-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on April 30, 2012, 06:12:05 AM: The lap count for Wednesday's race is 26
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 30, 2012, 07:13:39 AM: Nice. Another good hour long race. I still haven't turned a lap in the S2000. It should be good.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on April 30, 2012, 07:26:50 AM: Quote from: Turbo-Tuna on April 30, 2012, 07:13:39 AM
I still haven't turned a lap in the S2000. It ~~should~~might be ~~good~~OK.

:stoopid:
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on April 30, 2012, 08:14:51 AM: And for anyone looking for lap times, expect Q laps to be between 2'15 (estimate) and 2'19 (witnessed GT-R). There is potential to go a bit better than that (NSX Type S '99). We'll see how we can do on Wednesday. Also, that's a big time gap, but it's a long, hard track, so not too surprising.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 01, 2012, 09:27:04 AM: Those were some fun "scrimmages" we had going last night!
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: LooneyTuna on May 03, 2012, 08:47:49 AM: I saved "my best" race for last considering where it was. So many places to kill your race. I almost made it with out major error, but with about 6 laps left I swung too wide after the long straight and spun. >:( :( My almost 2 second lead over Metal and any shot of winning went up in my smoke. :( Still, I had many fun laps with Metal which made the race much more fun than my usual solo racing. Also, I somehow beat Turbo! ;D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: Turbo-Tuna on May 03, 2012, 09:35:29 AM: Awesome race last night. Me and my Supra were too hard on tires to run with Looney and Metal. I had some really awesome laps, but it killed my tires. You two were on fire. Too bad you had that off Looney. It would have been an awesome end for you two to finish together.

Thanks for the racing Dawson and company. Hopefully we can get in on another evening/night series soon. Lots of fun.
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: Wolfpack987 on May 03, 2012, 12:37:02 PM: Last night was definitely one of my worse performances, lol. It was the perfect storm of a difficult track, insufficient practice and feeling under the weather that led to me sucking ass, haha. I had a great time running in the front for 4-5 laps till I put a tire astray...and then spun again b/c of slick tires :-X Either way it was fun trying to claw back to mid-field but with multiple spins hurting my tires the pit strategy of 8,9,9 just couldn't be done. I tried to stretch the last stint out to 10 and just before starting lap 25 I knew it would be impossible. Thus with fresh tires I laid down a best lap of 2:13.538 on the very last lap of the race :laugh

Now, without further ado, here are the results from last night's race:

1 Metal - 1.00:11.969
2 LooneyTuna - + 9.476
3 TurboTuna - +23.265
4 Feldynn - +1:03.074
5 TunaPhreak + 1:16.924
6 dawson864 + 1:24.511
7 cecollazo + 2:19.618

CONGRATULATIONS TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP WINNER....ME! :-X

:dingding :dingding :dingding

I didn't intend to win, and without Ex missing the last 2 events it would have been a pipe dream! But congrats to all the podium finishers!

1st - dawson864 - 640 pts
2nd - LooneyTuna - 635 pts
3nd - ExXboxFan - 620 pts

The entire final points standings are located in the OP. I'll send out some "goodies" to the podium finishers.

Thanks guys for your participation; it was a lot of fun for me and I hope everyone else too (sounds like it was based on feedback). I do plan to host another series but it won't be soon. More likely towards the 2nd half (or end) of summer. Lots of summer fun to be had, and I'll need to figure out what kind of fun series to churn out next! I learned a lot of stuff from this series and will be applying it to future events, hopefully to the benefit of all.

PROLOGUE: if everyone involved in this series would like to do a bonus race entirely composed of '91 NSXs let me know. I'm sure something could be arranged :D
Title: Re: 2012 Japanese 90s Sports Car Series! (updated 4-30-12)
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on May 04, 2012, 08:04:53 AM: congrats on the win, Metal

sounds like a fun last race. consider my absense my little gift to you, Dawson :) j/k

i too will look for future opportunities to race with you all.

it's been an honor swerving with you lol

yay, I stayed on the podium!