SupaTunaGT
Gran Turismo => General Gran Turismo => Topic started by: EX_stream_tuna on August 20, 2012, 09:09:34 AM
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MastrGT started a process to see if we can get Cars nominated and voted by the GT Community actually handed to SONY/PD so they can see which ones we feel are the most essential for our driving experience in GT.
I'm sure he can tell you more about how the 'passing along" of the list will be done, but the process is underway and I thought it would be a shame if this wasn't posted here for you all to at least see, if not participate in yourselves.
OzDaddy62 manages the process and the lists. He's a great guy and a good friend of mine. Doing a fine job assembling the lists and referreeing the process.
The Essential GT Car List (http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Gran-Turismo-Series-General/The-Essential-GT-Car-List/m-p/37409034/message-uid/37409034#U37409034)
I suggest you read through the OP of that thread for the formal process of nominating cars and the format for doing so. Posts such as "more mustangs" will not receive any attention, while those with detailed explanations for why the particular model is essential to GT and some stats and pics are great too. But see the thread for detailed instructions.
Here are the threads for the votes themselves.
RESULTS FOR VOTE #1 (http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Gran-Turismo-Series-General/RESULTS-FOR-VOTE-1-The-Essential-GT-Car-List/m-p/37590937)
VOTE # 2 The Essential GT Car List (http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/Gran-Turismo-Series-General/VOTE-2-The-Essential-GT-Car-List/td-p/37803765) - open until Friday 8/24
RESULTS:
The ten cars that receive the most votes will be added to the Essential GT Car List Winners Circle. It will be these cars along with the winners of all future votes that will promoted to Polyphony Digital as per the objective of the Essential GT Car List.
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Thanks for the heads up Ex, I had a quick scan through the car list and I can definitely say there are a lot more interesting cars to choose from here than the first one to the point that even after just a quick glance it might be hard to pick "just 10" to vote for :).
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Thanks for the heads up Ex, I had a quick scan through the car list and I can definitely say there are a lot more interesting cars to choose from here than the first one to the point that even after just a quick glance it might be hard to pick "just 10" to vote for :).
:stoopid:
Much better than the first list.
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I would like to see more Ford Race cars in that list! I will put to gather a list of cars i think should be there.
P.S. If you don't know by now I'm a Ford guy and proud of it!
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(http://vehiclevinyls.com/products_sized/NEW%20Calvin%20Disc%201%201739.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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You can find them stickers for every car Chrome. :P
Jim Clark's 1965 Lotus-Ford Indy winner.
1967 Trans Am cars
1969 Boss 429
Parnelli Jone's 1970 Mustang Boss 302
I would go for any 1960's and 1970's Trans Am cars!
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meh, I'm not much of a ford fan, but I know that lots of people are, so that's fine.
if making submissions, try not to inundate the thread with dozens at once... probably 2 or 3 each month or so would keep it from being too saturated by one person's nominations.
besides, spreading it out means you have more representation in the monthly voting and your cars may have more visibility that way anyways.
and yes, this 2nd list is better than the first in that is built on a newly devised Essential Cars list rather than the old "legacy" thread that was used to do the first vote. in other words, they were cleaning out the old thread for a new one, but didn't want to just abandon the cars on the first list.
it was really hard to narrow it down to just 10 this time around.
I copied each that I liked into Textpad and then deleted one by one until I had only 10. It was hard. I loved the idea of having the eagle i-Thrust in the game, for instance, but when it meant I had to leave out a "serious" nomination, I axed it from my vote.
Since this is for the whole GT community, it would be really good if this forum was represented as well.
For voting, you'd just need to log in and send a PM to the right inbox. The Death Star's tractor beam will be disabled so you can quickly retreat back over here if you feel the need 8)
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I voted earlier. I'm probably in the minority, that I prefer street cars over race cars. I only had 2 race cars in my 10.
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This list did seem more interesting... but what is the deal with the 1963 Impala SS? I've seen that pop up more than once on people's wish lists... it would be terrible! Yeah, it's a classic and it's rare... but so is the Autozam AZ-1 and that thing isn't any fun either. The Impala is more [big american 50s sedan] and it is [any late 60s muscle car].
People seem to be all fussy about getting cars they they want in real life, but not cars that would be fun to race, you know, as it's a racing game and all. Like the Tank Car, yeah, it's mildly interesting in real life, but to put it on track against other cars is stupid.
In real life, I would love a coachbuilt Delahaye or Duesenberg or some giant pre-WWI touring car or even some 1950s/60s American boat (really? A Pontiac Grand Prix SJ is on that list? It's a barge not a sports car). But when it comes to racing video games, how about an F355 Challenge or some more F1 cars or some Trans Am cars or just some performance road cars (glad to see the CTS-V on this list). There's an idea, instead of PD giving us 3 cars from a 15 different race series', how about 15 cars from 3 different race series?
Aaand deep breath.
/rant.
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what is the deal with the 1963 Impala SS? I've seen that pop up more than once on people's wish lists... it would be terrible!
yea that one didn't get my vote.... shh
People seem to be all fussy about getting cars they they want in real life, but not cars that would be fun to race, you know, as it's a racing game and all. Like the Tank Car, yeah, it's mildly interesting in real life, but to put it on track against other cars is stupid.
yes that is part of the problem. though, a tank car fully loaded with extra weight ballast is a great "punter" in demo derby, just for fun style races. though, I doubt Kaz would approve.
At least we con't have to see Jay's big chin every time we look at the thing.
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Damn, I don't see a Half-Track on that list. I wanted to drag race the Kuble wagon or that boat thing with the shovel, against its American counter part. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I'm with Chrome, I'd rather have more street cars than racing cars. This list is slightly better than the last one, but still having trouble picking 10 of them. I'm not an "old car" guy, I like new technologies, so this list is harder to pick from due to the vast number of oldies.
Thanks for keeping us posted on the DeathStar doings!
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People seem to be all fussy about getting cars they they want in real life, but not cars that would be fun to race, you know, as it's a racing game and all. Like the Tank Car, yeah, it's mildly interesting in real life, but to put it on track against other cars is stupid.
*snipped*
There's an idea, instead of PD giving us 3 cars from a 15 different race series', how about 15 cars from 3 different race series?
Word.
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People seem to be all fussy about getting cars they they want in real life, but not cars that would be fun to race, you know, as it's a racing game and all. Like the Tank Car, yeah, it's mildly interesting in real life, but to put it on track against other cars is stupid.
*cropped for space*
There's an idea, instead of PD giving us 3 cars from a 15 different race series', how about 15 cars from 3 different race series?
:stoopid:
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haha... reminds me of the quote...
"oh, i'm afraid this battle station will be quite operational when your friends arrive."
sounds like Oz has received a few tuna votes already. awesome!
I wouldn't expect to see the same type of spread between old cars and new in future votes. each list could be very different.
and if the newer cars are what gets you up, then voting for them certainly does send that message. if the experience is "hmm, we all like these, but no one is voting for them." then older cars that are just nostalgic and not "essential" might not make it in the list for voting. hard to say.
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People seem to be all fussy about getting cars they they want in real life, but not cars that would be fun to race, you know, as it's a racing game and all. Like the Tank Car, yeah, it's mildly interesting in real life, but to put it on track against other cars is stupid.
*snipped*
There's an idea, instead of PD giving us 3 cars from a 15 different race series', how about 15 cars from 3 different race series?
Word.
word, indeed. I think the intention is to send PD the message that we'd like a race car of a particular make/build, but then say "we also want same-class cars to race this against"
that's the idea as I understand it, but PD will do whatever they do.
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The IMPALA should have been a Sixty_fo, yo!
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The IMPALA should have been a Sixty_fo, yo!
No doubt.
Dr. Dre - let me ride (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfkDnsxc-zE#)
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smokin' indo and sippin on gin 'n juice not a good race driving technique.
light up a bong between races like everyone else!
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smokin' indo and sippin on gin 'n juice not a good race driving technique.
light up a bong between races like everyone else!
I agree my driving has gone downhill since I stashed my bong. :( (who the fuck makes up these stupid laws telling us which drugs we can and can't use?(this line could proably have its own site let alone thread))
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only gangsters and government agencies benefit from the drug war. that should answer the question well enough.
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I finally got around to sending off my vote list this morning, that was actually quite tough! I think after the first parse I'd got a good 25-30 cars listed that I'd love to see make it into GT5, trimming that down to just 10 was really tough. Like others have mentioned I also would prefer street cars to race cars though I'd be all for those street cars having Race Mods though :D.
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...I'd be all for those street cars having Race Mods though :D.
:stoopid:
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Me to. :stoopid:
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i'm still of the opinion that race mods are a gimmick now that they require a completely different 3D model to accomplish...
it's trading a car slotted with a production car with another car that is much different.
to provide a race mod for a car you have to produce two cars. IMO it's better to just call it a TC and treat it as a different car than to get people all confused about the whole phony "race modding" scheme in the first place.
it just get's people asking for more RMs. Get rid of it. it's too confusing. Just make sure there are a LOT of touring cars and no one will really be that po'd.
IMO what PD could do is make sure that all race cars that are not licensed to a team (like the RM's and TC's) always have a street production car equivelant. Then, if you want to "Race mod" the car, you get a discount on the purchase of the new car based on trading in your old one. You don't get to keep mods done to the care prior to RM'ing, right? So it really is a new car and thus RM'ing is just a gimmick to make the game feel more like real life racing projects do.
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I just wish they'd go the Forza route and basically make every car RM'able. And the best part is that with just a few clicks of a button, you can convert any car back to it's street form! Genius!
PD's idea of not being able to uninstall certain things is :fucking dumb.
In Forza, those who want to keep most cars in their street form are free to do so. Those who want to turn their street cars in to "Race Cars" (me!) are free to do so as well. And those who want to buy a car and be able to go back and forth between street car and "race car" are free to do that too.
Simple, really. :-\
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it's just a programming style choice and the two games differ yet in another area such as this one.
PD seems to want you to understand that a car cannot (in most cases) be returned to a street car once you've totally gutted and RM'd it. That is true to real life, IMO.
But forza is all about giving people what they can't have in GT because of Kaz's "vision". So is it better? maybe from a certain point of view. Is it realistic or true to life? Nope. Will it bring in people who want the flexibility though? Yep!
So PD needs to always walk a careful line between vision and sales. How that pans out from release to release is very interesting to watch, to say the least. Okay, I'll say more... it's frustrating as hell sometimes!!!
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Cool list of cars. I managed to narrow it to ten and voted.
Mustang ('65 I think)
Shelby Daytona Coupe
Camaro ZL-1, Bob Jane #7
Testarossa
E30 M3, M1,
Ultimate Aero TT
Matech-Ford GT3
SLS AMG GT3
Formula Mazda Pro
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thanks turbo.
anyone else? Last day of voting for Vote #2.
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I voted yesterday but just so everyone can laugh at my picks..
BMW E30 M3
Cadillac CTS-V
Dodge Charger SRT8
Ferrari Testarossa
Ferrari 288 GTO
Ford XB GT Falcon Coupe
Jaguar XJR
Nissan Skyline RS Super Silhouette Formula
Pontiac Grand Prix SJ
Renault Megane 265 Trophy
Yes, I actually voted for a Skyline :P.
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I voted yesterday but just so everyone can laugh at my picks..
BMW E30 M3
Cadillac CTS-V
Dodge Charger SRT8
Ferrari Testarossa
Ferrari 288 GTO
Ford XB GT Falcon Coupe
Jaguar XJR
Nissan Skyline RS Super Silhouette Formula
Pontiac Grand Prix SJ
Renault Megane 265 Trophy
Yes, I actually voted for a Skyline :P.
Now aren't you ashamed of yourself? :nono We just got 4 new skylines in the effing GT Effing Academy Effing Challenges. >:(
Serially, don'tcha think we got enoughof them :Fuck ers?
I'd have voted for the Cheetah....awesome car!
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Now aren't you ashamed of yourself? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/nonono.gif)
Hells nah!! It's square, boxy, has a massive wing and an even bigger front porch, angular and full of awesome.. at least the GT2 version was :). Besides it's about the only Skyline we're missing, a race car version of the R30 I think it is, might as well have a complete set since we've got all the others ;D.
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I am boycotting this vote because i think the 2 most important cars that should be on this list aren't on it the caprice and the crown vic (approx 1990-2005) since we have all either tried to or thought about 'racing' them on one occasion or another. ;)
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here are the results of voting on Vote #2:
In a remarkable show of unity, some cars crossed the line together. This also indicates that voting was spread across the field. Another way to look at it: 39% of voters included the Shelby in their list.
Shelby Daytona Coupe Shelby American 1964-65 USA 4.2%
M3 DTM BMW 2012 Germany 3.9%
DBR9 #58 Aston Martin Racing 2005 UK 3.5%
Cheetah Bill Thomas/Chevrolet 1963-65 USA 3.5%
HSV-010 GT Honda 2010 Japan 3.5%
R18 TDI Audi 2011 Germany 3.2%
Charger SRT8 Dodge 2008-present USA 3.2%
Venom GT Hennessey Motorsports 2012-2013 USA 3.2%
CTR 3 Clubsport RUF 2007 Germany 3.2%
CTS-V Cadillac 2004-present USA 2.5%
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I am boycotting this vote because i think the 2 most important cars that should be on this list aren't on it the caprice and the crown vic (approx 1990-2005) since we have all either tried to or thought about 'racing' them on one occasion or another. ;)
feel free to nominate them for the next vote! Nominations can be submitted at any time and would be included in the list of cars to vote on next round...
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I'm glad the Cheetah made the list...although it was not an "official Production" model (the factory burned to the ground after only 77 - I think it was - were actually built) At that time I believe that 100 cars needed to be built to qualify in most races as a prodution model - which the Cheetah was most suited for. But Glad to see that it made the top ten list! :)