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It looks like Canada is shafted again on getting there own GT Academy. It sure is a shame, because i know there are a lot of very fast Canadians! Very bad deal for the Canadians! Just my .02 worth.
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Argh!!! >:(
Oh well, I might just have to see if I can even get on the leaderboard...... Prize or not!
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Zee, if they don't allow Canadian's to register I think you can make an entirely different profile, but when you do say you are from America. It'll at least get you on the board to compete. I made a British profile a while back to download something only the European's got that we didn't.
When we were at the Finals last time there was a lot of discussion about Canada being in the next season, they wouldn't confirm anything then and I don't know that the verdict will be. The reason Canada wasn't in the 2011 season had to do something with Sony Canada or Nissan Canada, or something. It made sense at the time, but then again we were partially drunk at the bar with some Nissan exec's, so I can't recall exactly. :-\
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There are different laws covering each province or state, which is why contests are limited in each country. There are also long commitments to cover and SONY Canada has to budget for all contests, not just the Academy.
So as I said elsewhere, they are still working on it. That was confirmed today.
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It may be looking good. I know Australia isn't going to participate and there is no mention of GT Academy on the Aussie Gran-Turismo website. Alternatively both the US and Canadian sites have links to the GT Academy news story....unless the Canadian site just links to the US site?
I hope Canadians are allowed this time.
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The GT site we get is the US site.
It would be neat to see Canada included. I know there are some very fast guys up here. I can't get seriously involved for various reasons, but it would be nice to see where we are on the early leaderboards, without having to pretend to be American.
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I just saw the notice on the GT Home Page on the game... one of the pictures posted is of London! I am now excited. Here's to hoping that whatever we have to run at that track is unwieldy and on shitty tires!
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I just saw the notice on the GT Home Page on the game... one of the pictures posted is of London! I am now excited. Here's to hoping that whatever we have to run at that track is unwieldy and on shitty tires!
49 Beetle on sports hards?
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I just saw the notice on the GT Home Page on the game... one of the pictures posted is of London! I am now excited. Here's to hoping that whatever we have to run at that track is unwieldy and on shitty tires!
49 Beetle on sports hards?
Yeah, that qualifies, but I was thinking more along the lines of a Z06 on Comfort Softs or worse.
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I just saw the notice on the GT Home Page on the game... one of the pictures posted is of London! I am now excited. Here's to hoping that whatever we have to run at that track is unwieldy and on shitty tires!
49 Beetle on sports hards?
Yeah, that qualifies, but I was thinking more along the lines of a Z06 on Comfort Softs or worse.
Perhaps a Minolta Toyota with 1034 HP on comfort softs? And while we're at it, why not run it at Autumn ring mini or the Kart Track II? :o
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They need to let us know soon if Canadians are allowed in. I need to figure out my excuse for not winning.
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:stoopid:
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If you folks from the Nort' aren't allowed in, just do what I did last year--invest yourself and live vicariously through someone else who is in.
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If you folks from the Nort' aren't allowed in, just do what I did last year--invest yourself and live vicariously through someone else who is in.
:stoopid:
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The Canadian office wants in and I've made it clear to them that we want in (even though they already knew that), so I am sure they will do whatever they can for us. Once they commit to one year's budget, it will be difficult for them to drop out in further Academies because it would not look good on them.
It would be a good gesture to thank them if they do come through for us, too, because I am sure it won't have been an easy decision for them.
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They need to let us know soon if Canadians are allowed in. I need to figure out my excuse for not winning.
I suck so no need for an excuse
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hardly soks,
I've seen you get up pretty high on some of the boards in recent past.
I just hope they can eliminate cheating from cutting etc. more successfully than last time and in some recent Seasonal TTs.
If that's the case, then I'm sure people like yourself will get up there higher.
I know a few canadians who have simply refused to compete in the seasonals (or invest more than an hour or so that is) because the leaders are all cutting.
with a level field, hopefully we'll see the best up at the top, rather than those looking for shortcuts to glory.
But alas if all that fails, as I said on the other forum, Canadians can just move to the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and still see a Moose on occasion. :D
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Starts today. Go download it from PS store. :)
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Has anybody gotten it yet? *looks at time stamp*
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Has anybody gotten it yet? *looks at time stamp*
According to the official GT Academy Facebook pages, the game will become available to download in the PlayStation Store at approximately 8:00 PM Eastern Standard Time in the United States
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Copied from GTP's news page...
Here’s how everything works – the exclusive Gran Turismo content will be available to download from PlayStation Store, free of charge, from 17.00BST / 18.00CEST on May 1 until 23.59BST / 00.59CEST on 24 June. You can download and take part at any time during this period, so even if you miss the start you can still play catch up and get involved.
Once you have downloaded the content, Polyphony Digital will release new rounds approximately every two weeks; in total there are eight rounds and within each round there are five sections.
Here’s a list of the rounds and when they will be available:
Round 1 and 2: 1/5 (Tue) 17.00BST – 24/6 (Sun) 23:59 BST
Round 3 and 4: 14/5 (Mon) 00:00 – 24/6 (Sun) 23:59 BST
Round 5 and 6: 28/5 (Mon) 00:00 – 24/6 (Sun) 23:59 BST
Round 7 and 8 (ROUND 8 IS FINAL/QUALIFICATION EVENT): 6/11 (Mon) 00:00 – 24/6 (Sun) 23:59 BST
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Have they talked about what they're going to do when the new updates every two weeks don't happen as planned and what they're going to do when some smart ass figures out how to cheat and they have to start over or are they just playing it by ear for the time being?
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I was just told that Canadians won't be eligible again, this year, but not because of any lack of trying.
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BOOOOOO. I was looking forward to seeing how badly the real fast guys beat me.
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BOOOOOO. I was looking forward to seeing how badly the real fast guys beat me.
I think you can still download the trial and see how bad you get whooped, you just won't be eligible to win; and that's why I'm taking my name out of the running, as protest til my brothers from Canadia become eligible.
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SONY won't hear your protest that way, Rick.
The European servers are being hit hard with heavy traffic, so if you can wait a bit, then you may as well. Otherwise, you will just get frustrated.
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It's available in the US store now. Type "academy" in to the search and it will be the first result.
Downloading now...
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It's available in the US store now. Type "academy" in to the search and it will be the first result.
Downloading now...
:quote No Pressure :quote ;D
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From what I'm reading the first round sounds like kind of a joke. All you have to do to progess to the next round is get bronze on a handful of challenges and it sounds like it's ridiculously easy to get bronze.
Also, for you guys that don't plan to compete but are car collectors you may want to download it and get said bronzes. I guess there is a GT Academy Nissan Leaf and also a Nissan Silvia to be won.
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From what I'm reading the first round sounds like kind of a joke. All you have to do to progess to the next round is get bronze on a handful of challenges and it sounds like it's ridiculously easy to get bronze.
Also, for you guys that don't plan to compete but are car collectors you may want to download it and get said bronzes. I guess there is a GT Academy Nissan Leaf and also a Nissan Silvia to be won.
:o :o :o
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From what I'm reading the first round sounds like kind of a joke. All you have to do to progess to the next round is get bronze on a handful of challenges and it sounds like it's ridiculously easy to get bronze.
Also, for you guys that don't plan to compete but are car collectors you may want to download it and get said bronzes. I guess there is a GT Academy Nissan Leaf and also a Nissan Silvia to be won.
:o :o :o
I know, can't wait to get me one too.
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From what I'm reading the first round sounds like kind of a joke. All you have to do to progess to the next round is get bronze on a handful of challenges and it sounds like it's ridiculously easy to get bronze.
Also, for you guys that don't plan to compete but are car collectors you may want to download it and get said bronzes. I guess there is a GT Academy Nissan Leaf and also a Nissan Silvia to be won.
:o :o :o
:stoopid: :stoopid: :stoopid: (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
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The damn thing is 3 GB in size....I'm downloading it now....it's at 4% with another 69 minutes to completion. :'( Maybe I'll get to see it by Midnight, :lolz
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Yeah, I'll get it and give it a go. No hurry, I guess though.
I'm with the Master on this Rick. Take part, if not to win, then at least for some fun competition with your friends. It may even get rid of more rust for regular GT5 racing. Or, you could completely ignore my crazy northern ramblings.
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Finished downloading... took a while to install... once installed there's a 1.01 patch that needs to be downloaded and installed as well. It's a small patch though, shouldn't take long.
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Note: TCS defaults to 5 everytime you start a new test.
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Yeah, I'll get it and give it a go. No hurry, I guess though.
I'm with the Master on this Rick. Take part, if not to win, then at least for some fun competition with your friends. It may even get rid of more rust for regular GT5 racing. Or, you could completely ignore my crazy northern ramblings.
I'm actually on the fence with this. On the one hand, I'm busy at home and have sort of lost my desire to race (though I had fun during my few races on Saturday night) and am looking for a reason to do it more; but on the other, I have no desire to be a real life racer and don't want to take the spot of someone who does. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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i'll be downloading and playing tonight :) even if i just get a couple more cars. Here goes nothing eh?
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Well, Hell, Rick....If I can keep up there with Gar and Wizard (for the time being - LOL), you should have no trouble getting all golds...it's pretty easy at this point in time...and there's a couple of cars in it as well (albeit the one is a stinker). The Sylvia is nice. Now all I have to do is to figure out where to look at www.gran-turismo.com (http://www.gran-turismo.com) for the cars. Haven't seen anything posted yet.
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Note: TCS defaults to 5 everytime you start a new test.
Also, for the controller guys. If you run a different than default sensitivty, you'll have to set it, but only once.
Also, also, posting from the ps3 sucks. :P
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Don't feel bad Tunah, I started with 214 min's to download! My Internet speed suck hind tit! :'(
P.S. 21% and 174 min's left!
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My load time was only 26 mins but it looks like i am having to do it at least twice! First time it came back with an error suggested trying again and if that did not work i would need to write down the error code and contact a sony tech for actual help in getting issue fixed.
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Kind of cool. License tests with leader boards. Of course since I'm Canadian so I won't put too much time into it ( see Nosoks, the EXCUSE why I won't win. The REASON I won't win is because I suck). The first round is pretty silly.
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Took a little over an hour to load, almost sorry I bothered. I was happy with my time in the first test, not so much with the second so I took a peek at the fastest replays. Basically, drive with two tires in the grass the whole way. What a crock of shit.
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First download took 26 mins to fail second took 32 mins to fail third time is saying it will take 43 mins. Will report back with fail or no fail. Maybe they think Ohio is a part of Canada :-) wonder how quick tech support will be considering this is a limited time offer. Fucking Sony is out to drive people away with constant bullshit in every fucking step we take. Get the godamn network fucking running right already its been too damn long we have been tolerant and patient about the details not being right.
I soooo dig our little pond and the group that tends to school up here but Sony has me at my limits this is why o was looking elsewhere not because i want to but I cannot keep dealing with this crap without getting angry which is not what i was looking for in my hobby.
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They will explain later how to collect your prize cars:
"Receive Great Prizes by Clearing Events!
If you clear all 5 events within a round in Gold, you will receive a car that you can use within the ‘Gran Turismo 5’ game. If you clear all rounds in Bronze or better, you’ll also receive a special racing wear set that can be worn by your avatar in “Gran Turismo 5”. The timing for the distribution and how to receive these prizes will be notified at a later date on this page."
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I soooo dig our little pond and the group that tends to school up here but Sony has me at my limits this is why o was looking elsewhere not because i want to but I cannot keep dealing with this crap without getting angry which is not what i was looking for in my hobby.
I did try to convince everyone to bide their time and to wait for the rush to be over, back at post #25.
The contest runs over 53 days, so there isn't really a lot of rush. ;)
After I sent in an idea from another fan, the Canadian office will now consider other ideas for the fans here, so keep tuned to see if anything real develops. Then just listen to all of the Americans wonder why they can't partake in our contest, too. :D
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The damn thing is 3 GB in size....I'm downloading it now....it's at 4% with another 69 minutes to completion. :'( Maybe I'll get to see it by Midnight, (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
I started the download this morning....................... it said 437 minutes left.............. I waited 1/2 hour and it got to 3% at which point I said fuck it I'll wait till I get back to Canada so I can't compete
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I had to laugh when I looked at the GT Academy results / info page for each round and the global stats that cycle at the top of the page (here's the link to Round 1 (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round1/)).
I couldn't be bothered to count but I find myself wondering how many American / Canadian players are in the top 250, yes I know it's basically just a glorified time trial / license test advertising event before the proper rounds but it does amuse me to see all the world flags up there :).
Also take a look at the stats ticker thing there: Number of players, number of player gold trophies, total player mileage, total player retries.
The "Total Mileage" is the one that caught my eye, we're at a bit over 1,965,000km and counting at time of post. Wait a second, the total mileage is in kilometers.. doesn't that make it a "total kilometerage"? Ok so it should really have been "Total Player Distance Driven" or something equally ambiguous, but again I find myself chuckling that the the total mileage is in kilometers :).
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I downloaded/installed it last night. I'll take a Sunday drive around the track tonight.
One question. What's the invite friends thing about?
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I assume it's just a way to invite people on your friends list that may not know about it.
Also, to go along with what Feldynn said, I really don't understand why I can't look at regional leaderboards. I mean, isn't that kind of the whole FUCKING point? I couldn't care less where I rank compared to some guy in Slovakia.
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I assume it's just a way to invite people on your friends list that may not know about it.
Also, to go along with what Feldynn said, I really don't understand why I can't look at regional leaderboards. I mean, isn't that kind of the whole FUCKING point? I couldn't care less where I rank compared to some guy in Slovakia.
I believe you can filter it. I got to a screen with a bunch of flags on it that I assume I could chose just one instead of default all.
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I'll have to look again when I get home. I saw a drop down menu that was labeled "Region" which I assume is what I'm looking for but it was blacked out and I couldn't click on it.
Also, best name I've seen so far on leaderboards... Cliotoris
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i'll always wonder why the HELL Gt always thinks its a good idea to put opponent cars in on time trials... >:(
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:stoopid: I agree with Metal!! Especially on a narrow part of the Ring! Anyway it seemed narrow to me when I was trying to pass.
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i'll always wonder why the HELL Gt always thinks its a good idea to put opponent cars in on time trials... >:(
I actually like those, and were the only ones I ran more than once.
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I see Hey on the leader boards. WTG Hey! :)
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round1/ (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round1/)
Also, also, STVM_InfiniTuna. Very nice sir. :)
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As expected there are a few flaws with the Disqualification system in the GT Academy demo, I've noticed 2 so far though one may just be a pet peeve on my part:
1 - On the Tokyo track (Round 2-2 I think) you can take the car up onto the curb plateau, beyond the rumble strip edge, and have all 4 wheels technically off the track. Granted it's a city track but if you put all 4 wheels beyond the rumble strip on say Round 2-5 at the Nurburgring it's an "off track" DQ, while this might just be a pet peeve of mine I think it should be treated in the same way at every track.
2 - The disqualification penalty for "hitting a car" is woefully inconsistent, it was most noticeable for me in Round 2-5 (Nurburgring). Sometimes I could literally use the other cars as cornering aids, sideswiping them with a fair degree of force and receiving no penalty at all, yet other times I can just barely graze them with the lightest of contact (that doesn't register any controller vibration or altering the trajectory of my car) during a passing move and suddenly I'm disqualified.
I wonder what others will surface as the competition continues :).
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As expected there are a few flaws with the Disqualification system in the GT Academy demo, I've noticed 2 so far though one may just be a pet peeve on my part:
1 - On the Tokyo track (Round 2-2 I think) you can take the car up onto the curb plateau, beyond the rumble strip edge, and have all 4 wheels technically off the track. Granted it's a city track but if you put all 4 wheels beyond the rumble strip on say Round 2-5 at the Nurburgring it's an "off track" DQ, while this might just be a pet peeve of mine I think it should be treated in the same way at every track.
2 - The disqualification penalty for "hitting a car" is woefully inconsistent, it was most noticeable for me in Round 2-5 (Nurburgring). Sometimes I could literally use the other cars as cornering aids, sideswiping them with a fair degree of force and receiving no penalty at all, yet other times I can just barely graze them with the lightest of contact (that doesn't register any controller vibration or altering the trajectory of my car) during a passing move and suddenly I'm disqualified.
I wonder what others will surface as the competition continues :).
While I disagree with #1 (on a street course you should be able to run to the walls) #2 is spot on. I was getting quite annoyed because the cars were always right where you needed to be (like seriously blocking)... so I would end up smacking into the side of both cars. AND I am pretty sure I had all 4 wheels in the grass passing the red car. Nothing. Next run, I rubbed the left front of the yellow one and was promptly arrested.
On a different note... how does this work? When does it start to "count."? Are they eliminating people based on these times? Or do they just let everyone go till the end and randomly pick people? I can't imagine whatever you do on these license tests matter as long as you complete them. If they did, I'd like to think that they'd show an accurate leaderboard instead of a global one. But then I realize who we're dealing with. ???
And Feldynn... I noticed I tied you on one of them... :old
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Rounds 7 and 8 will probably be a full lap somewhere and that is when the quickest will advance.
At least that's how I think it will be Stepper.
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I had to laugh when I looked at the GT Academy results / info page for each round and the global stats that cycle at the top of the page (here's the link to Round 1 (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round1/)).
I couldn't be bothered to count but I find myself wondering how many American / Canadian players are in the top 250, yes I know it's basically just a glorified time trial / license test advertising event before the proper rounds but it does amuse me to see all the world flags up there :).
Also take a look at the stats ticker thing there: Number of players, number of player gold trophies, total player mileage, total player retries.
The "Total Mileage" is the one that caught my eye, we're at a bit over 1,965,000km and counting at time of post. Wait a second, the total mileage is in kilometers.. doesn't that make it a "total kilometerage"? Ok so it should really have been "Total Player Distance Driven" or something equally ambiguous, but again I find myself chuckling that the the total mileage is in kilometers :).
I noticed last night it is miles in mileage now. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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What a piece of shit that Leaf is.
I guess having 3/4 of the car mowing the grass is LEGAL for this competition. WTF
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What a piece of shit that Leaf is.
I guess having 3/4 of the car mowing the grass is LEGAL for this competition. WTF
Yes to both comments. I saw a Leaf in real life the other day...ugliest fucking thing I've ever seen.
And I can't believe they allow laps to be considered as long as a piece of the rubber is touching white. I have the craziest feeling they're going to fuck this up like last time.
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Their rulings about what is clean running are incredibly shitty. But even with shitty rulings as long as they are applied evenly I will work with it. In the end its their contest I am wanting to participate in so I am left with little choice.
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:stoopid:
Yes, agreed.....It reminds me of what a friend said to me about the Lottery: "You gotta Play to Win"...
To which I replied, "You gotta Pay to Play". :D
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This somewhat points out what GT is (some who've experimented with PC racing know)...a wannabe sim racing game (Maybe the best on a console, but still lacking). Sure, there are similarities between it and real driving, but certain things not so much. How fast can a real car go around a corner with two tires in the grass? I personally don't know...it's not an experiment I've not tried.
The game is loads of fun on track with good drivers - I love it, but as a fully proper sim...it falls short. That's not to say it's an arcade game either. I think there's a huge gap between it and crappy arcade like games.
Now sorry to say this, but rules is rules. Lots of people say 'two wheels on the track, it's OK'. They're just following a set of rules. If they apply consistently, that's fine, whatever. (The car-on-car contact issue is another story, I hear)
The Optimist says...maybe these six rounds before rounds 7 and 8 (or however it's set up) are really just there to (1) familiarize people with the setup and (2) test for things they missed making the Academy Demo. This way, they don't have to postpone the event or erase any results, because the first 6 rounds don't count toward anything. One can hope.
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Bronzes are going to be harder to get as the contest goes on right?
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Bronzes are going to be harder to get as the contest goes on right?
I've been wondering about this as well. Truth be told, I'm actually still not convinced that you even need bronzes right now to progress.
My other thought was perhaps we'll need to get silvers to move on in the next few rounds, then golds after that.
I just wish they'd give out a little more info as to what the :fuck is going on.
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I'm not fast enough or have the desire to "go all the way" in this, so my main objective is just to stay in the top 10 of my friends list. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
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I'm not fast enough or have the desire to "go all the way" in this, so my main objective is just to stay in the top 10 of my friends list. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
:stoopid:
My friends keep trying to knock me out of the top ten. Some friends.
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I'm not fast enough or have the desire to "go all the way" in this, so my main objective is just to stay in the top 10 of my friends list. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
:stoopid:
My friends keep trying to knock me out of the top ten. Some friends.
The guys who made it last time aren't eligible to go again so if I see their names above me on the friend rankings thing, I just pretend they aren't there.
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I'll just be running for any free stuff they kick out. I'm not naive enough to believe i'm the next GT Academy winner.
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I'm not fast enough or have the desire to "go all the way" in this, so my main objective is just to stay in the top 10 of my friends list. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
:stoopid:
My friends keep trying to knock me out of the top ten. Some friends.
ForTUNAtely, you're GoesTuna11. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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I'll just be running for any free stuff they kick out. I'm not naive enough to believe i'm the next GT Academy winner.
I'm pulling for Hey. I want him to cross the pond. When he gets back, I'm having a shirt made for me that says, "My friends Spec and Hey went to Silverstone and all I got was this stupid t-shirt."
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Bronzes are going to be harder to get as the contest goes on right?
I've been wondering about this as well. Truth be told, I'm actually still not convinced that you even need bronzes right now to progress.
My other thought was perhaps we'll need to get silvers to move on in the next few rounds, then golds after that.
I just wish they'd give out a little more info as to what the FUCK is going on.
From what can be observed, all you need is that message about progressing to the next round to pop up when you return to the main menu. Comes up after you complete the round, not sure what trophy colors are needed though. So I would assume someone cannot just jump into round 3 or 4 without the minimum requirements.
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it said you had to complete them in order... i.e. without doing 1 and 2 you can't get to three...
So far a Nissan Leaf and a Nissan Silvia. How about some cool Nissan cars or concepts? Maybe a Nissan Esflow Concept or a Nissan Edge Concept. The Nissan Bevel Concept looks cool - if not squarish and slow... If we get a Leaf - the Leaf Nismo Race Car Concept is a much cooler genus of the species.
If we want to step back in time... 1987's Nissan Mid-4 concept is pretty rad -- looks like it has some Ferrari DNA in it... And for that nostalgic feel there is 1989's Nissan Figaro Concept. Or for something COMPLETELY different, how about the Nissan Land Glider Concept or the Nissan Pivo Concept...
I think we have every Nissan Z and most, if not all, of the Skylines/GTRs already. How about something new for a change??
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i concur sir rated.
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I see Hey on the leader boards. WTG Hey! :)
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round1/ (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round1/)
Also, also, STVM_InfiniTuna. Very nice sir. :)
thanks dude, the only one i really cared about was 2-4. that one was a real bitch. i've only been on that track 1 time in the game. it is a track in gt5 isn't it. anyway, my first run was so far off pace i almost cried, and did swear, ALOT!! so i sat there for like 5 hrs. or so getting more frustrated, and swearing louder with much more feeling with every mess up. then all of a sudden i ran a really nice lap, again i wanted to cry, and i did swear, but they was joyous. shortly after i ran the time thats posted, again shortly after that i ran one a tenth quicker, but the FUCKING game locked up before it was recognized. at least it can be improved upon again.
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Oh jeez I'm a :dunce
So yeah, bronze times need to get tougher or there will be shitloads of people in the last few rounds.
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Are there new ones? It told me I had to wait until 5/13 for the next level to open...
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Just levels 1 and 2 are open now Charlie.
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The more I watch the replays the more pissed off I get. What a joke.
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The more I watch the replays the more pissed off I get. What a joke.
:stoopid:
Do I stoop to that level to get those times or do I race proper and never make it through? (not like I have a prayer but it would be nice to know I did it right) When did grass become more adhesive than asphalt?
Congrats to Hey for being on the top of everyone of my leader board tests. I'm gunning for your spot on the high speed bank turn test though. That's going to be the only one though. Yoo's to damn fast!!!
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The more I watch the replays the more pissed off I get. What a joke.
:stoopid:
Do I stoop to that level to get those times or do I race proper and never make it through? (not like I have a prayer but it would be nice to know I did it right) When did grass become more adhesive than asphalt?
Congrats to Hey for being on the top of everyone of my leader board tests. I'm gunning for your spot on the high speed bank turn test though. That's going to be the only one though. Yoo's to damn fast!!!
You'll have to beat me first on that one. I'm ranked 239th in the entire world at going around a high speed bank turn. Damn I'm awesome.
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I asked about the off-track excursions, speed boosts and car contact issues and was told that they are "watching things" in this non-contest part. I don't know exactly what that means for them, but they were not aware of some issues, so if you have evidence, especially of speed boosts, please post them for me.
I asked if this means we had a free hand to do whatever we want and was told "not really", whatever that means.
I think what it all means is don't get your panties in a bunch, at least until the more serious part, or after they see just how abusive of the demo people can be and what PD needs to do to fix things.
I had to wait for my bandwidth month to end, last night, so that I could download the demo (it should be done soon). Now I should be able to confirm for myself some issues that you find.
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I haven't even had a chance to check this out yet. :( At least I think I have it downloaded. :-\
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I don't understand why they can't just put a row of cones about a half a car width off the road/curbing. Seems like that would solve most problems.
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I don't understand why they can't just put a row of cones concrete blocks about a half a car width off the road/curbing. Seems like that would solve most problems.
Fix'd
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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I like the cones on 2-4, the problem is some of them are in the wrong place and make you take a funny line. ???
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what are these speed boosts?
as far as running these tests, run how you want. at least the tires have to be on the track now. remember as long as you get the message saying you move to the next round your fine. after sacrificing 1 night of sleep while i'm sick, only to experience a work day full of nausea, cold sweats and a constant feeling of need to pass out, i've decided to run them till i get gold, till best time actually counts.
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The more I watch the replays the more pissed off I get. What a joke.
yo rick, don't pull a hey. last year i got all up in arms about it and opted out. as a result i missed a very good chance in getting to meet spec, gar, jpe, el z, zo6, and my new friend choate. this year i'll give a good honest try, but 5 of those 6 guys can't compete this time. so i'll prolly never meet them. i know it sucks that PD can't set a boundry worth a damn, but don't let it deter you from these kind of opportunities.
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what are these speed boosts?
as far as running these tests, run how you want. at least the tires have to be on the track now. remember as long as you get the message saying you move to the next round your fine. after sacrificing 1 night of sleep while i'm sick, only to experience a work day full of nausea, cold sweats and a constant feeling of need to pass out, i've decided to run them till i get gold, till best time actually counts.
Without the sickness, lack of sleep or the queasies I came to same solution get the gold for now as that is all that matters. But then pride intejected and I wanted respectable times amongst my fellow fish. But i spent about 10-15 mins on each one.
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been away from the ps3 since this was released. I'll be trying to hang with this school of fish as long as I can, though I don't have asperations of making it very far in this...
if the water's nice, count me in for now.
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The more I watch the replays the more pissed off I get. What a joke.
yo rick, don't pull a hey. last year i got all up in arms about it and opted out. as a result i missed a very good chance in getting to meet spec, gar, jpe, el z, zo6, and my new friend choate. this year i'll give a good honest try, but 5 of those 6 guys can't compete this time. so i'll prolly never meet them. i know it sucks that PD can't set a boundry worth a damn, but don't let it deter you from these kind of opportunities.
I've met two of the guys you mention, and let me tell you, you're not missing a thing. :laugh Actually, if you spent more time on Racebook, you'd feel like you'd already met them.
By the way, I love slowman's confidence (Slowman is not cocky, just confident). I was talking with another guy about it just the other day...I wish I had half as much on the track as he does.
I'm not going to pull a Hey. I'm not hellbent on winning; in addition to simply not being fast enough I don't have aspirations of a racing career. However, I would like to get my mojo back and seeing my name among the top five or ten of my friends is my target. I've sucked since 5 was released and I'm eager to show up in a lobby and have guys think "shit, here comes a fast guy." Probably won't happen, but that's what I'm shooting for.
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I'm using the academy as a way to relearn how to drive. I've lost considerable pace and consistency over the last while. I'm hoping that focussing on a few corners at a time will let me figure out where I'm losing my time. It was kind of cool being in the top 100 of 2-1 even if it was only for a few hours.
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I'm using the academy as a way to relearn how to drive. I've lost considerable pace and consistency over the last while. I'm hoping that focussing on a few corners at a time will let me figure out where I'm losing my time. It was kind of cool being in the top 100 of 2-1 even if it was only for a few hours.
:stoopid:
And this is why I appreciate license tests. It never ceases to amaze me how much time can be gained or lost in just a corner or two.
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I was pleased with some of round 2. Much more interesting than round 1. I am trying to get in the top 10 of the my friends rankings.
I'm with you on the cones idea. Seems like a great way to enforce limits. I know the boundaries at the Ring are flawed ::) I think they are at Route X also.
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thing is, programmers need to be the cheaters/cutters in order to clean things up for the rest of us before the events are released. they need to get in and beta-test each and every thing they do, but they must be too honorable to cheat and hope that the dishonor is passed to some dumb american down the road.
I know there are some cultural things going on with PD/Sony that are inherently Japanese, and this seems to be one of them.
PD needs to hire some of these cheaters to be beta testers and then DQ them as participants based on their status as testers
BRILLIANT!!!!
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I was pleased with some of round 2. Much more interesting than round 1. I am trying to get in the top 10 of the my friends rankings.
:stoopid:
About the only stage in round 1 that is somewhat interesting to me is the one at Eiger.
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I'm amazed that Takeuchi is going to probably break 26 seconds at the Silvia Tokyo stage. That's :fucking ridiculous.
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Yep. Eiger was definitely the only good part of round 1, though it's still a turd of a car.
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what are these speed boosts?
It probably has to do with how PD set up the differential when cars get tires onto something slippery, such as grass. At least that is how it is being described to me.
If PD uses a stiff diff, so to speak, then when the tires on the grass start spinning faster, so do the tires on tarmac. This has been an old complaint, and one that I think I had passed on to PD, however it seems they have ignored it until now. I sent in another report of it, yesterday, and so did someone in Europe, so maybe they will pay attention, this time.
When I mentioned that four-wheels off track aren't always penalised, there was a bit of surprise (which makes me think that they are trying harder), but I gave them an example of at least one location that it can happen
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what are these speed boosts?
It probably has to do with how PD set up the differential when cars get tires onto something slippery, such as grass. At least that is how it is being described to me.
If PD uses a stiff diff, so to speak, then when the tires on the grass start spinning faster, so do the tires on tarmac. This has been an old complaint, and one that I think I had passed on to PD, however it seems they have ignored it until now. I sent in another report of it, yesterday, and so did someone in Europe, so maybe they will pay attention, this time.
When I mentioned that four-wheels off track aren't always penalised, there was a bit of surprise (which makes me think that they are trying harder), but I gave them an example of at least one location that it can happen
Thank you MGT. I appreciate that someone is letting the right people know whats going on.
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what are these speed boosts?
It probably has to do with how PD set up the differential when cars get tires onto something slippery, such as grass. At least that is how it is being described to me.
If PD uses a stiff diff, so to speak, then when the tires on the grass start spinning faster, so do the tires on tarmac. This has been an old complaint, and one that I think I had passed on to PD, however it seems they have ignored it until now. I sent in another report of it, yesterday, and so did someone in Europe, so maybe they will pay attention, this time.
When I mentioned that four-wheels off track aren't always penalised, there was a bit of surprise (which makes me think that they are trying harder), but I gave them an example of at least one location that it can happen
Are these guys fucking idiots or what?
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what are these speed boosts?
It probably has to do with how PD set up the differential when cars get tires onto something slippery, such as grass. At least that is how it is being described to me.
If PD uses a stiff diff, so to speak, then when the tires on the grass start spinning faster, so do the tires on tarmac. This has been an old complaint, and one that I think I had passed on to PD, however it seems they have ignored it until now. I sent in another report of it, yesterday, and so did someone in Europe, so maybe they will pay attention, this time.
When I mentioned that four-wheels off track aren't always penalised, there was a bit of surprise (which makes me think that they are trying harder), but I gave them an example of at least one location that it can happen
Thanks MGT. :)
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I really don't like the made up tracks, and this 2-4 is causing lots of bad words to be heard in my house. I'm a half second off Hey's pace and I have no idea where to come up with it. Normally I like to be within a tenth or two of him, but like I said, I'm at a loss.
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http://playfront.de/about/gta-academy-season-2-shots/ (http://playfront.de/about/gta-academy-season-2-shots/)
Last pic, Round 8 Motegi short course. There were multiple variations in GT4.
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Very interesting. Wasn't a big fan of Motegi but any additional tracks are good tracks in my book.
Hope it gets added to the game. :)
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I'm amazed that Takeuchi is going to probably break 26 seconds at the Silvia Tokyo stage. That's FUCKING ridiculous.
is takeuchi someone from SONY or PD? I heard someone talk about him before as if they knew him from workin with SONY. Maybe MasterGT? I don't really recal.
But yea I'm mostly following his ghosts around the events so far.
Some of you guys are doing really well too!!
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Some of you guys are doing really well too!!
No kiddin! I was happy with my 9rd or 10nd that I got against you guys , I was shocked to get a 5st for one of them. I won't spend more than 10 minutes on these, especially the Leaf ones. ???
This is pretty cool though, I like the "newness" of it. :D
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yea great marketing job, Nissan!
the only chance you had of me buying your Leaf was by accident, and now that I'm acquainted with it, there is absolutely no chance unless I need something to wipe with. (and even then, I could manage better w/o)
I understand the challenge of driving a slow car, but COME ON!
SLow, boring, silent, and they think that GT fans will want to ever see one again after these tests?
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yea great marketing job, Nissan!
the only chance you had of me buying your Leaf was by accident, and now that I'm acquainted with it, there is absolutely no chance unless I need something to wipe with. (and even then, I could manage better w/o)
I understand the challenge of driving a slow car, but COME ON!
SLow, boring, silent, and they think that GT fans will want to ever see one again after these tests?
You forgot list to the right. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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Finally got into the 39s on the Nurb test, after running it about 100 times. I can see where I could be faster, but damn, I can't subject myself to that.
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yea great marketing job, Nissan!
the only chance you had of me buying your Leaf was by accident, and now that I'm acquainted with it, there is absolutely no chance unless I need something to wipe with. (and even then, I could manage better w/o)
I understand the challenge of driving a slow car, but COME ON!
SLow, boring, silent, and they think that GT fans will want to ever see one again after these tests?
I hate to admit it, but PD/Sony has done a good job setting this us (barring the fact that in the Leaf tests you can drive pretty much wherever you want). Starting in a shitty car doing mundane things has already improved my rusty skills.
If you're just looking to gold the challenges and move on, then yes, they're a waste of time. However, if you're really trying to improve, then I can't think of a better way of doing it.
There's no way I'm going to be one of the top guys, and to be honest, I don't want to advance to England. I've never enjoyed racing, I merely enjoy the online aspect of it. That being said, I have a competitive streak and if I see someone on the leaderboard above me who I feel is generally slower than me, I'm going to work at it til my name is above his. I'm going to study the replays of the faster guys and I'm going to pick up on things. I still may not jump above the guy I'm chasing, but I'll definitely improve.
I'm at a bit of a crossroads with test 2-4. On Sunday, I'll bet I started the test 50 or 60 times. Got down to 31.96x. I think it put me 8rd or 10st, but I was so close to some of the crazies that it was killing me. Finally, after a couple beers and a sleeping pill, I saw 31.942. It was a minor improvement, but I think it put me right on Gar's tail and within sniffing distance of Spec, and I still felt like I hadn't run a good test. (In defense of those guys, they're not eligible, so I doubt they spent much time on that test)
Last night, I spent another hour on it, but never saw another 94, just another 96. My average time had dropped. Instead of running a lot of 32.3s, I was running a lot of 32.1s. Even though I couldn't match my beer-induced time, I learned how to better handle three of the turns (that first turn is still a killer for me). It was frustrating knowing that I only needed to drop another 0.025 seconds for a 3-4 spot jump in my friends rankings and not be able to get it. So, I'm trying to decide if I'm done with that test or not. So far, it's the test where I've learned the most.
In summary, I can see how some would find the tests stupid and boring. But if you use them as a tool, I think they're pretty valuable.
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i'm not talking about the tests being stupid or boring... but the car. it's a bad idea if they want to actually sell the thing. the challenges are fine.
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For the record, tonight I'm deleting a bunch of guys from my friend list because I want to be the fastest among my friends. I'm not a freak like Hey and Spec and Gar and Z06fun and some others, and I know I can't better their times so I'll do the next best thing and just get rid of them.
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(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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For the record, tonight I'm deleting a bunch of guys from my friend list because I want to be the fastest among my friends. I'm not a freak like Hey and Spec and Gar and Z06fun and some others, and I know I can't better their times so I'll do the next best thing and just get rid of them.
Sounds like I'm safe then.
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For the record, tonight I'm deleting a bunch of guys from my friend list because I want to be the fastest among my friends. I'm not a freak like Hey and Spec and Gar and Z06fun and some others, and I know I can't better their times so I'll do the next best thing and just get rid of them.
Sounds like I'm safe then.
:stoopid:
Also,
I don't want to advance to England.
Don't go to england (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5qPHsvGMQI#ws)
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I think what I enjoy most about this rendition of GT Academy is how in the first group of tests you were encouraged to put 4 tires in the grass, while in the second, if I happen to look at the grass at the Ring, my car ends up in a wall. I like the consistency.
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I think what I enjoy most about this rendition of GT Academy is how in the first group of tests you were encouraged to put 4 tires in the grass, while in the second, if I happen to look at the grass at the Ring, my car ends up in a wall. I like the consistency.
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Where's that post of the week prize?
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"How are rankings calculated?
Your ranking is based solely on your fastest lap time within Round 8, Event 5. Only the fastest lap times will be recorded and entered into the national leaderboards so you must improve your results to move up in rankings. "
Anyone notice this? Does this mean that everything is basically meaningless til that very last TT? or will it continue to get harder to get golds to progress forward?
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That's how I understand it Metal.
Yup, a complete waste of friggin time and resources.
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I wouldn't say it's a complete waste, it is something different to do, and I've enjoyed some of it so far.
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I wouldn't say it's a complete waste, it is something different to do, and I've enjoyed some of it so far.
I should have been clearer Chrome. It has been fun trying to catch some of your times in this latest GT promotion/farce. :laugh
The waste time and resources comment was more for PD. Rather than fix the problems that already exist (server instability, unable to race 16 in a room as advertised, etc) they have created more of them.
But hey, they have been to busy promoting the shit out of Nissan, Sony and the GT tag to worry about the people who helped make there promotion a success. :'(
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Even though I agree 100% with your overall sentiment, Boston, I have to assume that Nissan is actually at the forefront of this.
My guess would be that Nissan said to Kaz something along the lines of "Get the GT Academy ready to go asap, and don't even think about patching/fixing your game right now."
I think once the academy is over, we'll start to see patches (and hopefully some DLC) soon after.
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Even though I agree 100% with your overall sentiment, Boston, I have to assume that Nissan is actually at the forefront of this.
My guess would be that Nissan said to Kaz something along the lines of "Get the GT Academy ready to go asap, and don't even think about patching/fixing your game right now."
I think once the academy is over, we'll start to see patches (and hopefully some DLC) soon after.
Yeah, without a doubt there is a sizable dollar amount attached to that comment. Hopefully that dollar amount will be put towards fixing our issues, I am sick and fucking tired of having to leave races because of lag that I did not have three months ago.
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I wouldn't say it's a complete waste, it is something different to do, and I've enjoyed some of it so far.
I should have been clearer Chrome. It has been fun trying to catch some of your times in this latest GT promotion/farce. :laugh
The waste time and resources comment was more for PD. Rather than fix the problems that already exist (server instability, unable to race 16 in a room as advertised, etc) they have created more of them.
But hey, they have been to busy promoting the shit out of Nissan, Sony and the GT tag to worry about the people who helped make there promotion a success. :'(
I concur
We can only hope for it to get better.
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New rounds drop later today :)
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Meh...it just dawned on me I never did get around to pushing the second round tests, I golded and forgetted about them planning to go through and put more thought out times in later, Owell.
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You can still run them Ronin, they shouldn't close until the whole thing is over.
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8-5 better not be one of those passing events. Too many opportunities to cheat. At first try I seem to be doing better at Round 4 than Round 3. At least I'm higher up on my friend's list. Except 3-5, somehow I got up to second with very few tries.
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It is, seems all the finals are passing events.
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It is, seems all the finals are passing events.
Yes, that's why I'm afraid.
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It is, seems all the finals are passing events.
Yes, that's why I'm afraid.
Agreed....also...i suck at driving AWD cars lol
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mygranturismo.net is doing some kick ass stuff with the leaderboards.
We finally have a way to filter by country (though limited to top 600 per country).
For example... http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=2&cy=us&start=0&board=2-4-5 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=2&cy=us&start=0&board=2-4-5)
Main rankings page - http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=1 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=1)
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Yeah, Pretty cool.....I see Baked is in the top 300 in several evnets, Hey6541 is in the running, and a couple of guys I had the pleasure of running with (or rather trying to chase) Grandriver and TEAMworkPLEASE. There are a lot of uber fast guys that I don't see there yet....Wiz...where R U ? Am I looking in the right places?
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Wiz...where R U ? Am I looking in the right places?
GTP_wizard's GT Academy & GT5 Rankings (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=GTP_wizard)
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You can check the rankings of anyone you know by putting in their name after the "id=" part of the following address. It doesn't matter if they have an account at mygranturismo.net. Rankings will only show if that person is ranked in the top 5000.
For example, mine is - http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=GTP_wizard (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=GTP_wizard)
If I change the name after "id=" to BakedTuna, it'll show his rankings - http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=bakedtuna (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=bakedtuna)
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You can check the rankings of anyone you know by putting in their name after the "id=" part of the following address. It doesn't matter if they have an account at mygranturismo.net. Rankings will only show if that person is ranked in the top 5000.
For example, mine is - http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=GTP_wizard (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=GTP_wizard)
If I change the name after "id=" to BakedTuna, it'll show his rankings - http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=bakedtuna (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?online_id=bakedtuna)
Wow, that's depressing.
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I must really suck, it doesn't show any times or ranking for me. :-\
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i wanted to throw this out there because someone mentioned server instability, etc. that those of us in SCREAM and GT Saturdays noticed over teh weekened some drastic changes to room quality (positive ones) and a few of us were theorizing that it is actually part of what is going on in GTA. On Friday and Saturday, it was horrible. Ther was a network-wide disco for everyone in GT5 around 11:45 Friday night. Saturday was plagued with problems too. The friday thing was probably intentional, to kick everyone off and change stuff. Then magically, on Sun morning everything was "better than it has been since before the PSN hack a year ago." That is a quote from Dan_Zitions over at the PSN forum, who is extremely attentive to detail and has great analysis on most things.
1. GT Academy may have secretly contained some patches for GT5. I noticed that music plays in some menus it didn't play in before and that when one song ends the next one is blended with it seemlessly. That could be new or it could be something I never noticed before.
2. Track details have been slimmed down behind the scenes for online lobbies. This lessens the load on your PS3 to display details while it is also trying to send and receive info from other players. These things are usually done without an update, as you play the game online.
3. Server loads seem to have been changed to provide separate servers for GTA vs GT5. The heavy load of over a million people doing GTA could have been (seemed to be) affecting the gameplay on GT5's online servers.
As a result of these things, we saw much more smooth lobbies on Sunday with very few hickups, no disconnections, etc. The prevailing theory is that there was a 2nd server reset *unannounced* on sunday night which cleaned things up and fixed whatever was broken after the Friday night reset.
That is not to say the (over 12 racers lag/framerate bug) has been fixed. Though, there is a chance it is lessened due to #2 specifically.
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i wanted to throw this out there because someone mentioned server instability, etc. that those of us in SCREAM and GT Saturdays noticed over teh weekened some drastic changes to room quality (positive ones) and a few of us were theorizing that it is actually part of what is going on in GTA. On Friday and Saturday, it was horrible. Ther was a network-wide disco for everyone in GT5 around 11:45 Friday night. Saturday was plagued with problems too. The friday thing was probably intentional, to kick everyone off and change stuff. Then magically, on Sun morning everything was "better than it has been since before the PSN hack a year ago." That is a quote from Dan_Zitions over at the PSN forum, who is extremely attentive to detail and has great analysis on most things.
1. GT Academy may have secretly contained some patches for GT5. I noticed that music plays in some menus it didn't play in before and that when one song ends the next one is blended with it seemlessly. That could be new or it could be something I never noticed before.
2. Track details have been slimmed down behind the scenes for online lobbies. This lessens the load on your PS3 to display details while it is also trying to send and receive info from other players. These things are usually done without an update, as you play the game online.
3. Server loads seem to have been changed to provide separate servers for GTA vs GT5. The heavy load of over a million people doing GTA could have been (seemed to be) affecting the gameplay on GT5's online servers.
As a result of these things, we saw much more smooth lobbies on Sunday with very few hickups, no disconnections, etc. The prevailing theory is that there was a 2nd server reset *unannounced* on sunday night which cleaned things up and fixed whatever was broken after the Friday night reset.
That is not to say the (over 12 racers lag/framerate bug) has been fixed. Though, there is a chance it is lessened due to #2 specifically.
Good News! :)
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i wanted to throw this out there because someone mentioned server instability, etc. that those of us in SCREAM and GT Saturdays noticed over teh weekened some drastic changes to room quality (positive ones) and a few of us were theorizing that it is actually part of what is going on in GTA. On Friday and Saturday, it was horrible. Ther was a network-wide disco for everyone in GT5 around 11:45 Friday night. Saturday was plagued with problems too. The friday thing was probably intentional, to kick everyone off and change stuff. Then magically, on Sun morning everything was "better than it has been since before the PSN hack a year ago." That is a quote from Dan_Zitions over at the PSN forum, who is extremely attentive to detail and has great analysis on most things.
1. GT Academy may have secretly contained some patches for GT5. I noticed that music plays in some menus it didn't play in before and that when one song ends the next one is blended with it seemlessly. That could be new or it could be something I never noticed before.
2. Track details have been slimmed down behind the scenes for online lobbies. This lessens the load on your PS3 to display details while it is also trying to send and receive info from other players. These things are usually done without an update, as you play the game online.
3. Server loads seem to have been changed to provide separate servers for GTA vs GT5. The heavy load of over a million people doing GTA could have been (seemed to be) affecting the gameplay on GT5's online servers.
As a result of these things, we saw much more smooth lobbies on Sunday with very few hickups, no disconnections, etc. The prevailing theory is that there was a 2nd server reset *unannounced* on sunday night which cleaned things up and fixed whatever was broken after the Friday night reset.
That is not to say the (over 12 racers lag/framerate bug) has been fixed. Though, there is a chance it is lessened due to #2 specifically.
This can easily be true. I have been playing SSX lately and they change the drops (run down the mountain) often. They are able to change things like time of day and actual weather on the specific drop/s (same drops as offline too). Now knowing and seeing the results of changes with no patch/update to the game, leads me to believe PD can easily do the same. The developers for SSX have actually posted on the SSX forum and said some things can be done server side to make changes.
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If that's all true my interest in this game may start to rise again. The server/disconnect/lockups crap is probably the #1 reason I don't play as often as I used to.
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well it's just a couple observations at this point. let's see how the tutu's, classes, and such fair over the next week or so...
ok back to the academy. don't want to derail the thread.
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don't want to derail tunafy the thread.
:tunafy but fix'd ;D
Back on topic... I understand that one of the new rounds have a Skyline/GTR as the weapon du jour.
Oh joy!!! (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/hapydancsmil.gif)
Do we get it for golding those evnets, like with the Leaf and Silvia? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/sp_drool2.gif)
j/k (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lolpirate.gif)
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yes I'm just drooling over those black and white stickers for the sides of the cars! yay! j/k
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Is it really that hard to get your best time to show in the friends leader boards?
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Is it really that hard to get your best time to show in the friends leader boards?
First of all, are you fast enough? (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Second, I've found if I go to the next test, then back, it'll show the up to date time.
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yes that seems tobe glitchy sometimes. it may update yoru time once and display the time, but then if you beat it again the new one won't pop up on your screen.
the time DOES get saved, it just doesn't look like it.
going out and back in works.
I know how it is, though. You want that INSTANT gratification.
The other glitch I noticed is with engine sounds.
In Bumper view, it plays two sounds, a bass engine sound and a treble engine sound. If you do a run and it takes you back to that Session's menu, the next time you do a run from bumper view (w/o exiting game that is) will not play the treble sound.
If you cycle through the views real quick, the sounds are okay again.
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Is it really that hard to get your best time to show in the friends leader boards?
First of all, are you fast enough? (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Second, I've found if I go to the next test, then back, it'll show the up to date time.
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) i'm glad this happened to more people than just me! i didn't know about the exit/come back trick, so i usually got frustrated and tried the test again and set a faster time that ended up saving :D
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Why don't I have any times listed?
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Why don't I have any times listed?
Where? Are you talking about on mygranturismo.net?
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Why don't I have any times listed?
"TOP 5 REASONS WHY RONIN DIDN'T SEE HIS TIMES":
NUMBER 5: "The clock broke?"
NUMBER 4: "The timer went out for a coffee while you were racing"
NUMBER 3: "You had to let the dog out"
NUMBER 2: "Your comment, 'you :fucking piece of shit' was not well received by the Marshalls
*Drum roll*
And the NUMBER ONE REASON WHY RONIN DIDN'T SEE HIS TIME POSTED:
"It was time to go to work" :palm
yuk yuk yuk! Hey Moe, Hey Larry!
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Why don't I have any times listed?
"TOP 5 REASONS WHY RONIN DIDN'T SEE HIS TIMES":
NUMBER 5: "The clock broke?"
NUMBER 4: "The timer went out for a coffee while you were racing"
NUMBER 3: "You had to let the dog out"
NUMBER 2: "Your comment, 'you FUCKING piece of shit' was not well received by the Marshalls
*Drum roll*
And the NUMBER ONE REASON WHY RONIN DIDN'T SEE HIS TIME POSTED:
"It was time to go to work" (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/facepalmsmiley.gif)
yuk yuk yuk! Hey Moe, Hey Larry!
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Post of the week!
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:wec
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Why don't I have any times listed?
Where? Are you talking about on mygranturismo.net?
At the time I made that post they did not show at either mygranturismo.net and granturismo.com but now they are showing at granturismo.com, that's the important one so...fukit it's moot.
NUMBER 5: "The clock broke?"
No Croonah, I thought we went over this, PD did not buy your excuse that your blistering speeds must have broken the clock artificially inflating your times.
NUMBER 4: "The timer went out for a coffee while you were racing"
That FUCKING piece of shit
NUMBER 3: "You had to let the dog out"
Yeah, it's a valid excuse, look at what happened to Ballistic when he did not let the cat out quick enough
NUMBER 2: "Your comment, 'you FUCKING piece of shit' was not well received by the Marshalls
Well...He'll think twice before toddling off for coffee won't he.
*Drum roll*
And the NUMBER ONE REASON WHY RONIN DIDN'T SEE HIS TIME POSTED: "It was time to go to work" (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/facepalmsmiley.gif)
Disqualified for hasin a job....Daaaamiiiiit.
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Tuesday morning and the cheaters have been busy
6-5 has been reset so get back in there boys
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Damn are you serious? I had a killer time on two of the Round 6 segments >:(
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only the Sarthe test is reset
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Did 2 more rounds open up yesterday?
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Did 2 more rounds open up yesterday?
Yes.
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Sad, any idea what the cheaters were doing that caused the change / reset? I haven't bothered watching any replays this time around.
Maybe this is a good thing though, ironing out some of the potential bugs / issues now before it gets to a stage where times actually count for something other than cars with little square Academy decals on then.
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Sad, any idea what the cheaters were doing that caused the change / reset? I haven't bothered watching any replays this time around.
Maybe this is a good thing though, ironing out some of the potential bugs / issues now before it gets to a stage where times actually count for something other than cars with little square Academy decals on then.
I have not even looked at the events yet but Soks said Sarthe, One thing I learned about Sarthe wile out slumming in the open lobbies is that shortcut detection does not start until the yellow lines instead of the white meaning corners can be cut down as deep as fifteen feet from racing surface before the shortcut detection kicked. That said I am going to assume it is another case of cutting the track.
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233th overall in 6-1 currently (last time I checked)
at or near the top of my FL, so I know that some of you are holding back!
I AM finding it easier to beat most of my friends, especially the ones who don't focus on TT's, now that we are in Round 5 & 6.
With longer tests, higher power, and more turns, it is starting to separate the wheat from the chaffe. Not that I'd call anyone a chaffe, that'd just be mean :angel:
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To help those of us with chaffing issues....
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/ambp.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/Anti-Monkey-Butt-Powder.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/ambp2.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/mbikemonkey1-med.jpg)
And for the female Tuna among us and for younger Tuna too...
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/ambp_BABY.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/chafing-lotion.jpg)
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/ladymonkeybutt.png)
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nice time Ex
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thanks... seen your name a couple times too!
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I have not even looked at the events yet but Soks said Sarthe, One thing I learned about Sarthe wile out slumming in the open lobbies is that shortcut detection does not start until the yellow lines instead of the white meaning corners can be cut down as deep as fifteen feet from racing surface before the shortcut detection kicked. That said I am going to assume it is another case of cutting the track.
Looks like it was corner cutting issues, I just reran 6-5 and I'm certain there are tons more cones out now around the chicanes than there were the first time I ran it.
There is still a problem with inconsistent "contact with other cars" penalties too, seems like if you even lightly graze the front or rear of another car it's an instant DQ but you can happily bully them out of the way (i.e. aggressively taking a corner, barging the other car out of the way or using it as a cornering aid) and almost perform a PIT maneouver on another car without any penalty at all.
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I must have 32 friends that are running the Academy, because when I'm in a hurry and just want to gold and move on I find myself in 32rd position among my friends. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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LOL, that's some funny stuff on this page.
I AM finding it easier to beat most of my friends, especially the ones who don't focus on TT's, now that we are in Round 5 & 6.
With longer tests, higher power, and more turns, it is starting to separate the wheat from the chaffe. Not that I'd call anyone a chaffe, that'd just be mean
I'm actually finding the opposite. My rankings have been getting better the further along I go in the Academy. I will say though that I rarely do TTs so this is an adjustment for me. I have no dislike of TTs, it's just difficult to find the time :'(
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I see rounds 5 and 6 are for reminding me(us?) how much GT's track creator :fucking sucks. Does every FUCKING curve have to be going over a hill? ::)
I hate TT's to begin with, and the novelty of GT-A wore off after the first week. All I care about is getting gold, move on to the next.
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I see rounds 5 and 6 are for reminding me(us?) how much GT's track creator FUCKING sucks. Does every FUCKING curve have to be going over a hill? ::)
I hate TT's to begin with, and the novelty of GT-A wore off after the first week. All I care about is getting gold, move on to the next.
:stoopid:
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While I generally agree with the "GT'S track creator FUCKING sucks!" sentiment I should confess that I don't mind the Toscana ones, in fact that is by far the best track scenery / style they have (yes it can have some shitty corners but they're usually not terrible or can be tweaked out fairly easily).
That Eifel Circuit one with the "over crest, hello sharp descending corner" sections are just ridiculous though, I expect to see some of those on a Mt. Ahrshole track soon too. And, while I generally don't like the Eifel Kart track courses in general, I should confess again that they at least were used surprisingly well in the earlier rounds (multiple tight S-turn type configurations or something).
But I'm like Chrome insofar as I'm mostly just doing it for the prize cars, I might try a few times to get a halfway decent time according to whomever has times up on my friends list at the time but I haven't gone back just to redo any of them for a faster time.
EDIT: Going through the Academy Prize giveaway on my other account I notice there actually IS a ridiculous Mt. Ahrshole track with stupid corners / elevation, it must have been such a horrifying experience the first time around that I blotted it out of my mind!
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I finally got around to rounds 3 and 4 last night. I like TTs sometimes. I'll never reach the top of my friend leaderboard (Hey and RackAttack + brindlefried and clacksman = I'm lucky to get top 5.) Besides those guyes, there are probably 5 to 10 other guys who are a coin toss to beat my times depending on :bong and :beer, but I like going after times of those I'm usually competitive with. If there's no one racing online, I'm up for some TT.
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I finished up the first two test thingies before going on my golf trip and haven't had the desire to go back. Top 10 of my friend list is all I was shooting for and with some of the crazies on that list, even that's a struggle sometimes. I'm not going to Silverstone, so I wonder if earning golds to get the shitty cars is even worth it.
Like I said, I've only done the first two sets of tests...the Leaf and maybe a 240Z car type thing were the prizes. Beyond that, are the cars worth having?
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I see rounds 5 and 6 are for reminding me(us?) how much GT's track creator FUCKING sucks. Does every FUCKING curve have to be going over a hill? ::)
I hate TT's to begin with, and the novelty of GT-A wore off after the first week. All I care about is getting gold, move on to the next.
those tests are specifically focussing on elevation changes, so the hills are there for a reason. but yea, the track creator does mostly suck. it's nice to ahve one, but it's clear they are holding it back so that GT6's creator can be more impressive. Sux balls cuz they could have just made this one more impressive.
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Like I said, I've only done the first two sets of tests...the Leaf and maybe a 240Z car type thing were the prizes. Beyond that, are the cars worth having?
Not really. They're cars you probably already have but with stickers on the doors.
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I finished up the first two test thingies before going on my golf trip and haven't had the desire to go back. Top 10 of my friend list is all I was shooting for and with some of the crazies on that list, even that's a struggle sometimes. I'm not going to Silverstone, so I wonder if earning golds to get the shitty cars is even worth it.
Like I said, I've only done the first two sets of tests...the Leaf and maybe a 240Z car type thing were the prizes. Beyond that, are the cars worth having?
no the cars do not seem to be worth the time it takes to even get the golds. They are the stock in-game cars with no enhancements other than a sticker on the side and a different license plate. woo hoo. ::)
I do like how the 5st and 6rd rounds have been more difficult to get the golds on.
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I ran 5 last night and plan on doing 6 tonight. I noticed last night they added friends filter to rankings. So it is just like Seasonals. Way cool.
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About 11pm last night I wws checking Tunaverese and saw I had to go back and redo one of the tests. I was pissed because I was satisfied with my 1:05.999. So while driving with this anger I manage a 1:05.5??. Thanks you cheatin' fuckers you forced me to improve.
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I finished the last ones today. On 6-3? I beat Ballistic by .001. Take that! :lolz (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) :lolz
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on one of them, I have the exact same time as Feldynn. but they list him first for some reason! Probably because of the date/time of the submission. Because "E" is before "F" last I checked... but this IS PD we're t alking about here :D
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Ex, Feldynn said to tell you "WAH"! (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) J/K. Just go out and race it again...you can beat that time. I tried several attempts at some of the challenges and the thing I find is that you can pick up time with the repetition of do-overs. 8)
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It's my time, I saw it first! Get yer own :P
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The test at Top Gear test track is effed. Go watch one of the top 10 replays to see what they are doing. ??? Un-effing-believable. :o
The stupidity never ceases to amaze me
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6.4 sucks ass! Nuff said...
:postho
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Hey Looney, what name you running under? I'm assuming your not using your STVM one, as I have that on my list friend list, but don't see it in the Academy times... is it now just LooneyTuna? If So I would like to send you a FR...
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6.4 sucks ass! Nuff said...
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/4UCan.gif)
lol... Yeah it does, that one is a real bitch... lol I think I was swearing all the time I was on that track. >:(
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Hey Looney, what name you running under? I'm assuming your not using your STVM one, as I have that on my list friend list, but don't see it in the Academy times... is it now just LooneyTuna? If So I would like to send you a FR...
Yup, Looney_Tuna it is. That is what I use when having a smaller garage is not an issue. :)
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Hey Looney, what name you running under? I'm assuming your not using your STVM one, as I have that on my list friend list, but don't see it in the Academy times... is it now just LooneyTuna? If So I would like to send you a FR...
Yup, Looney_Tuna it is. That is what I use when having a smaller garage is not an issue. :)
Thanks Looney--- FR sent
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I finished the last ones today. On 6-3? I beat Ballistic by .001. Take that! (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif) (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
You done that poorly did you? :lolz I am sucking big time on the whole academy thing. with the exception of a couple names everything is Brindle or Wizard...Wizard or Brindle.....bla bla bla Baked seems to be very consistent as well. I just want the free cars :) Hope they are Nissans :laugh
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The test at Top Gear test track is effed. Go watch one of the top 10 replays to see what they are doing. ??? Un-effing-believable. :o
The stupidity never ceases to amaze me
I haven't looked at the replays yet, but is this about the right-side cutting?
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The test at Top Gear test track is effed. Go watch one of the top 10 replays to see what they are doing. ??? Un-effing-believable. :o
The stupidity never ceases to amaze me
I haven't looked at the replays yet, but is this about the right-side cutting?
Yes, the right side cutting before entering Hammerhead. They may have fixed it by now. It's been 7-8 days. I just hope they toss out those that cheated it.
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Seeing that bullshit just bugs me about something I can have very little control over. So instead I just avoid watching replays.
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Seeing that bullshit just bugs me about something I can have very little control over. So instead I just avoid watching replays.
I never get upset over these academy time trials - they're all bogus. I've never watched others or for that matter - saved a replay of my own. Somehow, I manage to get by with getting gold without help from the cheaters, :lolz
Don't get rattled, Baked, It's not good for your blood pressure, :laugh
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Seeing that bullshit just bugs me about something I can have very little control over. So instead I just avoid watching replays.
I never get upset over these academy time trials - they're all bogus. I've never watched others or for that matter - saved a replay of my own. Somehow, I manage to get by with getting gold without help from the cheaters, (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/zLOL.gif)
Don't get rattled, Baked, It's not good for your blood pressure, :laugh
I get my gold without HELP or looking at the times and replays of the top 10. I'm just trying to beat all your times. (not doing so well).
However, after I have got my gold, I do look at the leaders replays. I want to see why they are so much faster than I.
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I hope they don't totally reset that one too, I fucking decimated that shit with a run I don't believe I could duplicate.
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I hope they don't totally reset that one too, I fucking decimated that shit with a run I don't believe I could duplicate.
So you'd rather they continue to let people take advantage of a "cheat", just because you ran a good time? A good time that in the end has no relevance to anything whatsoever?
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Until the events actually count towards anything I know that I really care too much about resets / leaderboard wipes so long as it means the actual proper Academy phase is better setup and policed than the fiasco in the early rounds last time.
Sadly though about the only way I think they could probably guarantee no corner cutting is to line the entire track with cones, not just a few cones on the apex of corners and a the odd other spot but actually mark out the whole thing with cones so there just isn't any way to cut corners or run on inappropriate areas.
People will always try and bend the rules where ever possible especially when it comes to the unwritten ones, only way to make it fair is to treat everyone like children and put in as many restrictions as are necessary. Even if that means going to what "normal folk" regard as the ridiculous extremes, like forcing everyone to drive in a cone channel.
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I hope they don't totally reset that one too, I fucking decimated that shit with a run I don't believe I could duplicate.
So you'd rather they continue to let people take advantage of a "cheat", just because you ran a good time? A good time that in the end has no relevance to anything whatsoever?
No, actually I would much rather see cheaters be disqualified, removed and banned individually as opposed to just wiping the entire slate and changing the cut perimeters and letting the cheaters continue to find short cuts to exploit.
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I hope they don't totally reset that one too, I fucking decimated that shit with a run I don't believe I could duplicate.
So you'd rather they continue to let people take advantage of a "cheat", just because you ran a good time? A good time that in the end has no relevance to anything whatsoever?
No, actually I would much rather see cheaters be disqualified, removed and banned individually as opposed to just wiping the entire slate and changing the cut perimeters and letting the cheaters continue to find short cuts to exploit.
I wouldn't mind seeing them get banned too but I think we both know that's not gonna happen.
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I haven't looked at the replays yet, but is this about the right-side cutting?
Yes, the right side cutting before entering Hammerhead. They may have fixed it by now. It's been 7-8 days. I just hope they toss out those that cheated it.
When I tried to cut off to the right side, the only place it allowed me to go beyond the white line was after the junction of the tarmac and cement areas. My times were about equal to doing it normally.
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I haven't looked at the replays yet, but is this about the right-side cutting?
Yes, the right side cutting before entering Hammerhead. They may have fixed it by now. It's been 7-8 days. I just hope they toss out those that cheated it.
When I tried to cut off to the right side, the only place it allowed me to go beyond the white line was after the junction of the tarmac and cement areas. My times were about equal to doing it normally.
:o Cheater (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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US registration
https://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/entry/
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All they have to do is make the grass and rumble strips not as smooth as the racing surface and cheating would be eliminated
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I'm not sure what the difficulty is. I would assume that they have x,y coordinates for every point on the track. I would assume that they could calculate x,y coordinates for each tire. It should be trivial to define what x,y coordinates are on track and what are off. When three tires are off your time is disqualified. I'm not a programmer so maybe I'm missing something. The other issue is that off track physics aren't correct. Hitting curbs is often way too forgiving.
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I'm not sure what the difficulty is. I would assume that they have x,y coordinates for every point on the track. I would assume that they could calculate x,y coordinates for each tire. It should be trivial to define what x,y coordinates are on track and what are off. When three tires are off your time is disqualified. I'm not a programmer so maybe I'm missing something. The other issue is that off track physics aren't correct. Hitting curbs is often way too forgiving.
:stoopid:
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Loving 8-4 right now. There's nothing quite like hitting Eau Rouge just right.
Me, hey & Enyo all doing well at the moment...
(http://i.imgur.com/pNXsp.png)
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Loving 8-4 right now. There's nothing quite like hitting Eau Rouge just right.
Me, hey & Enyo all doing well at the moment...
(http://i.imgur.com/pNXsp.png)
But they ruined it by putting cars on the track at the same time. Otherwise that would have been the best trial in all of the academy.
I was hoping that Motegi would be another prize for finishing the academy. Since they don't mention it, I guess that we will be DLC that you have to pay for.
Great run Wiz
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Loving 8-4 right now. There's nothing quite like hitting Eau Rouge just right.
Me, hey & Enyo all doing well at the moment...
(http://i.imgur.com/pNXsp.png)
But they ruined it by putting cars on the track at the same time. Otherwise that would have been the best trial in all of the academy.
I was hoping that Motegi would be another prize for finishing the academy. Since they don't mention it, I guess that we will be DLC that you have to pay for.
Great run Wiz
Why Doc, You have to remember - this is Polyphony Digital and Sony....would you expect more? (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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But they ruined it by putting cars on the track at the same time. Otherwise that would have been the best trial in all of the academy.
Agreed. Though even with the cars it's still probably one of my favorites.
Overnight we moved all the way down into the 60's.
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I'm actually starting to wonder if we'll get Motegi at all, no matter if it's DLC or not.
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Great job guys, only got 7-1 done so far but still way down my friends list :'(
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I should do the 6- trials soon. Maybe tomorrow.
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Done them all and i was in the top ten on all! Probably only for a few hours, but i was in the top ten! Well that is in my friends list! ;D
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Cones, glorious cones,
Blocking off all the shortcuts!
Make pleasing sounds when you hit them,
Bippedah, bippedah, bippeh!
I don't doubt someone will find a way to bend the rules even so, but I have to say I'm actually quite pleased with the Pylon Invasion in the last 2 rounds :). Sadly there is still plenty of inconsistency with the car collision penalty mechanic but I can live with that since there weren't any cars in the one that really counted.
Also, Wizard.. great time on the Montegi Short course for 8-5! I managed what I think was a reasonable 1'34.6xx, heck it put me 291nth in the US so I'm pretty happy with that. Might try to improve on it at some point (at least to stay in the top 300 maybe), but I don't believe I'd make the top 32 to go to the National Finals so I'm not going to worry too much.
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Cones, glorious cones,
Blocking off all the shortcuts!
Make pleasing sounds when you hit them,
Bippedah, bippedah, bippeh!
I don't doubt someone will find a way to bend the rules even so, but I have to say I'm actually quite pleased with the Pylon Invasion in the last 2 rounds :). Sadly there is still plenty of inconsistency with the car collision penalty mechanic but I can live with that since there weren't any cars in the one that really counted.
Also, Wizard.. great time on the Montegi Short course for 8-5! I managed what I think was a reasonable 1'34.6xx, heck it put me 291nth in the US so I'm pretty happy with that. Might try to improve on it at some point (at least to stay in the top 300 maybe), but I don't believe I'd make the top 32 to go to the National Finals so I'm not going to worry too much.
Great times guys. I'll be running tonight and tomorrow, but I will not be anywhere near a top 32. So I'll be happy just getting free cars.
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Dear PD, have recently spent some track time in your "tuned" cars and I would like to let you know that if you want to learn to tune a FUCKING CAR please visit supatunagt.com
thank you for listening
nosoks
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Round 6-5 has been reset yet again >:(, I think that's the La Sarthe one. Still shows me as having a Gold trophy and obviously access to Rounds 7 and 8 but for the sake of completeness, and to ensure the acquisition of free gifts, it's probably worth putting a time up just to be safe.
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Round 6-5 has been reset yet again.
How can you tell? Does it no longer show a time for you? Just wondering, I've never went back...
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Round 6-5 has been reset yet again.
How can you tell? Does it no longer show a time for you? Just wondering, I've never went back...
I saw a comment on the PSN forum that made me go back and check, there were only two times listed on my top 10 friends (ExXbox and Tanker I think). Looks like the leaderboard was wiped.
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Round 6-5 has been reset yet again.
How can you tell? Does it no longer show a time for you? Just wondering, I've never went back...
That is exactly right Charlie... Times are gone. I ran 5 & 6 almost two weeks ago and haven't look at it again till tonight. Knew they had reset it once early on, before I ran it, didn't know of the latest one. According to my last replay I ran a 1:06.477 ... I was satisfied with that, oh well, I'll run it again before I run 7 & 8, just to make sure it doesn't screw up getting the car. I run all ten events in one sitting and spend maybe 1/2 hour or so per event, a few a bit longer, so it takes a handful of hours to get through them, pretty much done with it after that. :)
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Anybody else notice the lighting at Motegi is similar to GT5 tracks that have weather? I'd like to go on record to say, if we get this track added to GT5, it'll have weather.
Also, it was fun to run that track again, been a long time since GT4.
Also, also, Skylines suck in stock form. I don't see how this could be favorable advertising for Nissan, when their flagship car handles like shit.
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Anybody else notice the lighting at Motegi is similar to GT5 tracks that have weather? I'd like to go on record to say, if we get this track added to GT5, it'll have weather.
Also, it was fun to run that track again, been a long time since GT4.
Also, also, Skylines suck in stock form. I don't see how this could be favorable advertising for Nissan, when their flagship car handles like shit.
They don't handle like that in real life. :)
I'm not sure why they feel so wonky in the sim. Also, I noticed the same thing on Motegi, the lighting is far to bright and almost pixelated, just like Spa on the weather mode. I never put two and two together....great thought!
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Anybody else notice the lighting at Motegi is similar to GT5 tracks that have weather? I'd like to go on record to say, if we get this track added to GT5, it'll have weather.
Also, it was fun to run that track again, been a long time since GT4.
Also, also, Skylines suck in stock form. I don't see how this could be favorable advertising for Nissan, when their flagship car handles like shit.
They don't handle like that in real life. :)
I'm not sure why they feel so wonky in the sim. Also, I noticed the same thing on Motegi, the lighting is far to bright and almost pixelated, just like Spa on the weather mode. I never put two and two together....great thought!
Personally I like the way the GT-R's drive, the piece of shit is that fucking 270Z....god damn thing don't know what a straight line is.
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Yeah the oversteer is waaaayyyyy excessive in the Z-car.
Good luck to all those trying to reach a personal goal with the competition!
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Speaking of the excessive oversteer in the 370Z I noticed something curious about the Traction Control, I'd been turning it off for most all the test and spotted that all other cars default at 5 but the Z defaults at 7. I found turning it off made it almost uncontrollable so either left it default or ran it about 3-5, 7 can be a touch grabby though but I'll take grabby over watching the racing line turning into a donut ;D.
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The 370Z has serious oversteer, and with the default being set at 7, I felt it would be comparable to the other cars if set to 2 instead of 0. 2 seems to work in a way that is comparable to the effects of turning off the traction control for the other cars. And yes, I have to agree with Nosoks - the :fucking tuned cars are like driving a row boat through a Kayak course. >:(
As far as getting Motegi or not, I suspect we will get it since it has already been modeled for GT5 (and insures that PD/Sony will get more money from their "DL Content program"), albeit whether it has a weather feature or not. I also suspect that Motegi will come in more than one track configuration. We've seen Motegi East Course, but there is also Motegi Full Course, Motegi West, and the superspeedway. I believe that PD/Sony will release some or all of them in the future to keep game interest and boost overall sales.
Like with any of the tracks, PD has the ability to reconfigure them from the GT4 resolution levels to the GT5 resolution levels. The real surprises we got in this game was Spa and Monza and Madrid - they were all new tracks that never previously appeared in any of the previous GT's. The ability to re-model the tracks from GT4 to get them up to the GT5 levels of detail and resolution is there, but a cost effective analysis is what drives the ability to take the time to re-do them. In the case of Motegi, I believe that the excitement and attention given to the GT Academy drives the ability to put this "new" track into the mix.
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I saw a comment on the PSN forum that made me go back and check, there were only two times listed on my top 10 friends (ExXbox and Tanker I think). Looks like the leaderboard was wiped.
yep. a few of my friends had redone it, but not many. I turned a 1:05.3?? I think?
it got me into the top 150 or so, but that's because not many people have redone it.
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The 370Z has serious oversteer, and with the default being set at 7, I felt it would be comparable to the other cars if set to 2 instead of 0. 2 seems to work in a way that is comparable to the effects of turning off the traction control for the other cars. And yes, I have to agree with Nosoks - the FUCKING tuned cars are like driving a row boat through a Kayak course. >:(
As far as getting Motegi or not, I suspect we will get it since it has already been modeled for GT5 (and insures that PD/Sony will get more money from their "DL Content program"), albeit whether it has a weather feature or not. I also suspect that Motegi will come in more than one track configuration. We've seen Motegi East Course, but there is also Motegi Full Course, Motegi West, and the superspeedway. I believe that PD/Sony will release some or all of them in the future to keep game interest and boost overall sales.
Like with any of the tracks, PD has the ability to reconfigure them from the GT4 resolution levels to the GT5 resolution levels. The real surprises we got in this game was Spa and Monza and Madrid - they were all new tracks that never previously appeared in any of the previous GT's. The ability to re-model the tracks from GT4 to get them up to the GT5 levels of detail and resolution is there, but a cost effective analysis is what drives the ability to take the time to re-do them. In the case of Motegi, I believe that the excitement and attention given to the GT Academy drives the ability to put this "new" track into the mix.
The driving tips for academy 7 make specific mention of understeer. It describes using early turn in to counter act the cars understeer.
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Yeah, we all read the understeer crap - it's just a way for PD to avoid correctional tuning - give US the ability to Tune those Tuners and we'll "ace" those friggin' TT's.
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Very nice maxking
33) maxking39 1:31.969
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Speaking of the excessive oversteer in the 370Z I noticed something curious about the Traction Control, I'd been turning it off for most all the test and spotted that all other cars default at 5 but the Z defaults at 7. I found turning it off made it almost uncontrollable so either left it default or ran it about 3-5, 7 can be a touch grabby though but I'll take grabby over watching the racing line turning into a donut ;D.
I haven't done stage 7 yet, but in stage 5 I used the 370Z with TC set to 0 no problem at all. Does it oversteer a lot more in round 7?
On a related note I used a stock 370Z for several of the latest seasonal races in that FR 500PP challenge. On Sport medium tires i found it quite lively but altogether manageable. :D
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Is anything else, besides 6-5 reset? It shows me having 39 golds but all my times are gold (barely) 8x5=40
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About 11pm last night I wws checking Tunaverese and saw I had to go back and redo one of the tests. I was pissed because I was satisfied with my 1:05.999. So while driving with this anger I manage a 1:05.5??. Thanks you cheatin' fuckers you forced me to improve.
Fuckin' deja vu
Got it down to a 5.3 due to the latest reset.
Fuckin' deja vu
Got ot down to a 5.3 due to the latest reset.
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Not understanding this reset discussion. Still show 40 golds and all my pitiful times :-\
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Not understanding this reset discussion. Still show 40 golds and all my pitiful times :-\
Maybe your time sucked so bad they didn't feel the need to reset it? :-\
:)
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:c/n
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In most places it showed me as having no time for this test but when i was on track it would show my best as being correct. It was as if it was for my personal knowledge that they showed that and if i wanted that time i would have to repeat it. Fuckem i improved it each time they reset it i find another. 2 of a second.
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Not understanding this reset discussion. Still show 40 golds and all my pitiful times :-\
Maybe your time sucked so bad they didn't feel the need to reset it? :-\
:)
:lolz
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Not understanding this reset discussion. Still show 40 golds and all my pitiful times :-\
Maybe your time sucked so bad they didn't feel the need to reset it? :-\
:)
Sometimes I fail to think things through. I bet you right :-[
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I did 6- and 7- on Monday night and noticed that there were only three other friends with times recorded at Sarthe (6-5?) That was weird... because of reset? All the other challenges had lots of friends times. (I won't show up in many top tens for those two sets...I mostly got gold and moved on)
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Not understanding this reset discussion. Still show 40 golds and all my pitiful times :-\
this^
Mine did not reset either.
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nice 8-5 time wiz
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nice 8-5 time wiz
this^
Also, I have never driven this track before and it is awesome. Of course my time blows, but I plan on turning some more laps.
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Thanks guys. :)
Some dude in Germany finally cracked into the 30's, which is :fucking ridiculous!
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Thanks guys. :)
Some dude in Germany finally cracked into the 30's, which is FUCKING ridiculous!
Sayyyy whaaaaaat?
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Thanks guys. :)
Some dude in Germany finally cracked into the 30's, which is FUCKING ridiculous!
Sayyyy whaaaaaat?
Crazy isn't it?
Also, here is the replay of the (now) #2 time in the world. What amazes me about this one is this person is using a :fucking controller!!!
GT Academy 2012 final round hotlaps - samurai_405 - 1'31.048 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JklSlFj5xzo#ws)
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Thanks guys. :)
Some dude in Germany Belgium finally cracked into the 30's, which is FUCKING ridiculous!
fixed
Also, Amo_Racing87 is an Alien
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Also, also, keep going maxking just a little more and your in the top 32. Way cool. :)
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This thing has brought back the only 2 memories I have of ever driving this layout of Motegi from previous games: 1. there is an underpass. 2. I hate this track.
Why are all the corners so awkward? There is no flow at all and they are all stupid tight. Good one, Honda.
Also, when I started round 8 the thing pops up and says "these are the times that count" or whatever. I thought it was for every test in the round, not just the TT. I was so pumped that I beat Hey (my barometer of success at the moment) at one of them, only to find I'm 3.5 seconds behind him and Wiz and Fried where it counts. >:(
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This thing has brought back the only 2 memories I have of ever driving this layout of Motegi from previous games: 1. there is an underpass. 2. I hate this track.
Why are all the corners so awkward? There is no flow at all and they are all stupid tight. Good one, Honda.
Also, when I started round 8 the thing pops up and says "these are the times that count" or whatever. I thought it was for every test in the round, not just the TT. I was so pumped that I beat Hey (my barometer of success at the moment) at one of them, only to find I'm 3.5 seconds behind him and Wiz and Fried where it counts. >:(
We just need to move to Mexico. http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round8/ (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round8/)
also, you're being followed :D
(http://staticmultimedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/ally.jpg)
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This thing has brought back the only 2 memories I have of ever driving this layout of Motegi from previous games: 1. there is an underpass. 2. I hate this track.
Why are all the corners so awkward? There is no flow at all and they are all stupid tight. Good one, Honda.
Also, when I started round 8 the thing pops up and says "these are the times that count" or whatever. I thought it was for every test in the round, not just the TT. I was so pumped that I beat Hey (my barometer of success at the moment) at one of them, only to find I'm 3.5 seconds behind him and Wiz and Fried where it counts. >:(
Stepper, just remember that 75% of the tight corners on this track are descending apexes, so you need to REALLY slow the car on entry or else you'll run out of track. It is an awkward track that I've never liked, but if you remember not to come into the corner to hot you'll come out a lot faster.
Nice times guys, I'd love to see a Tuna close the deal and go to the finals!! :jimi:
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Thanks for the tip Spec. I have never seen this track till today. :o I have to use training wheels. ^-^
also, I beat out Ballistic in one evnet by .005 or something again. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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That video is pretty ridiculous. He's so smooth you don't realize how much speed he is carrying. I noticed that he short shifts into 3rd several times, which is something I haven't been doing. Hopefully this will aid me in my quest :P
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That video is pretty ridiculous. He's so smooth you don't realize how much speed he is carrying. I noticed that he short shifts into 3rd several times, which is something I haven't been doing. Hopefully this will aid me in my quest :P
:stoopid: the short shifting thing really caught my attention. I've noticed I can hammer it out of the corners (without feathering it) if I short shift, as it keeps the revs down and the tail from wanting to pass me.
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^^BINGO!
Other than the shifting though, my driving line seems almost identical to his. I paid attention to where he starts braking at the end of the straightaways and that is "slightly" different. Just gotta work on smoothness I guess. Only spent an hour or so on this track thus far so I'm just getting started :D
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All the fast guys I ever asked said "Smooth is fast". They also said "Slow in fast out".
I've been working on perfecting a combo of the two. A sort of quick mashup to achieve ludicrous speed. "Slow is fast". ???
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All the fast guys I ever asked said "Smooth is fast". They also said "Slow in fast out".
I've been working on perfecting a combo of the two. A sort of quick mashup to achieve ludicrous speed. "Slow is fast". ???
Slow is fast. LOL!!!
Also, what does the hot chick doing the Spocker mean?
Edit - I see. A palm face. :-[
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HAHA Awesome!
129) Tuna_girls_n1cup 1:32.357
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All the fast guys I ever asked said "Smooth is fast". They also said "Slow in fast out".
I've been working on perfecting a combo of the two. A sort of quick mashup to achieve ludicrous speed. "Slow is fast". ???
Slow is fast. LOL!!!
Also, what does the hot chick doing the Spocker mean?
Edit - I see. A palm face. :-[
Why that's Ally McBeal and she is following TheHotstepper. ;)
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HAHA Awesome!
129) Tuna_girls_n1cup 1:32.357
That mystical Tuna_girls was right next to P_stank last night in the rankings. I thought that was pretty funny.
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All the fast guys I ever asked said "Smooth is fast". They also said "Slow in fast out".
I've been working on perfecting a combo of the two. A sort of quick mashup to achieve ludicrous speed. "Slow is fast". ???
Slow is fast. LOL!!!
Also, what does the hot chick doing the Spocker mean?
Edit - I see. A palm face. :-[
Why that's Ally McBeal and she is following TheHotstepper. ;)
And I have to say she's far harder to shake here than she is on twitter
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I knocked a whopping .001 off my time today. Yippee.
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I went to look at the leader board this morning and this it what I see.
(http://us.gran-turismo.com/maintenance/images/maintenance.png)
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I went to look at the leader board this morning and this it what I see.
(http://us.gran-turismo.com/maintenance/images/maintenance.png)
Maybe we have a huge update coming!!!!
...or maybe they are resetting the leaderboards do to cheating...
...or maybe the stupid monkey finally pulled the wrong fucking lever.
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...or maybe the stupid monkey finally pulled the wrong fucking lever.
My money is on this one.
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There is no pic is that what we are supposed to be seeing?
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There is no pic is that what we are supposed to be seeing?
Yes. Until TheHotstepper posts something. Then you should see Ally McBeal.
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Spent another 1 1/2 hours on this and got down to the lower 1:33s finally. That was without TC on. Are any of you guys finding that it helps you drive faster with TC on?
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Spent another 1 1/2 hours on this and got down to the lower 1:33s finally. That was without TC on. Are any of you guys finding that it helps you drive faster with TC on?
I think they are all running TC off.
You can see what was used when looking at the leader boards. Just highlight the racer, it will show wheel or controller, ABS, TC and many other things. :)
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Thanks for the heads up Dude!
BTW love your sig photo. I get down to HHI every summer and almost always make at least one foray into Harbor Town :D
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I find some TC helps me generally be faster, that is to say I use a controller and even though I find using the thumbstick for accel. / brake does give me reasonably good throttle control there are just some cars / setups I find easier with some TC. That's not to say I couldn't probably manage without it but it would be more of a struggle than it's worth.
I did manage to post a 1'33.876 with TC was either on 4 or 7 I think.
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With everything considered, I was quite pleased to be near the top 1000 in my region. ;D
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Feldynn, I put in a half hour before bedtime last night, gained half a second, which put me a few tenths ahead of you. You gotta work on that time, eh? ;) I'm doing OK with this TT, 76th overall in Canada last night. I'm sure I can find a bit more time, maybe a high 1'32 if I do really well.
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Great work Turbo! I had another bash at it this morning for a short while, managed to gain 2 tenths so I'm now at 1'33.6xx but I'm probably going to hang it up there. I can see many places where I can make up time but usually when I do make up time in one section I'll blow it in another, I just don't have the skill or control to get it right where I need to and be consistently right lap after lap.
But I'm happy with where I am and that's what really counts ;D :lolz.
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I've been curious as to how many are actually playing the last round so I took one of my other accounts and ran a lap of 8:40.xxx.
Results...
USA - 11581
World - 108124
I'm sure others have been doing this too so I don't know how accurate it is but it should give us some idea of where we stack up.
Seems odd that roughly 800,000 people aren't playing the last round.
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That reminds me of something I was pondering the other day regarding medals.
There's approx. 950,000 people playing right now and 8,900,000 or so gold medals, on average that's less than 10 gold medals per person.
If we assume the 100,000 or so you found 8-5 all have 40 golds a piece that's 4,000,000 golds right there leaving only 4,900,000 gold medals for the other 850,000 players, that's not quite 6 gold per person.
I know not everyone is going to be good at this game but I'm surprised at how low the gold medal per player count is, maybe you have to have a certain amount of gold medals (or gold in certain events) before you can do 8-5?
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Can't say I feel sorry for your results. ^-^ ^-^
You can doooooooo iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. :jimi:
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Also, my plan (if I were ever able to become gainfully employed) was to treat myself to a new car. Something sporty. I have just crossed the Nissan 370Z off the list. Hello, Hyundai. Who's laughin' now, Nissan? Bastards.
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Not you too, Ronin :(
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Even though I'm frustrated with not being able to improve my time, I'm starting to think I'm the only person in the world that's having fun with this car. I like it. :-\
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Even though I'm frustrated with not being able to improve my time, I'm starting to think I'm the only person in the world that's having fun with this car. I like it. :-\
I would probably enjoy the car, were it not at that horrible track and were it not because of the situation of trying to best my time. I can't enjoy it because I'm being too competitive.
My personal goal is to end up in the top 250. I keep sneaking in there and then getting bumped back out. If I can't do that, I just want to beat as many of you as possible :D
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I've actually been enjoying this car as well Wiz!
HotStepper, everything I've heard/read says the 370Z is superior to the Hyundai Genesis in almost every way. :P
However it's widely known that Nissan did a shitty job engineering the 370Z as a functional sports car. The engine runs hot and goes into limp home mode after 4-5 hot laps around a track. That's also usually around the time when the brakes start to over heat as well. In my opinion it's somewhat disturbing for a sports car to not be able to handle 20 minute lapping sessions without some moderate modification. I had considered replacing the S2000 with a 370Z, but I can't forgive those engineering sins. (well that and the 370Z is still a chubby monkey :( )
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Not you too, Ronin :(
I figured that would go over better than my continued vulgarity about that damn car....
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I like this car, and I like the track mostly. I find the Z is very stable and pushes a bit most of the time, except lifting off both completely, and on hard acceleration exit. I try to use lift off to help cornering.
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I like this car, and I like the track mostly. I find the Z is very stable and pushes a bit most of the time, except lifting off both completely, and on hard acceleration exit. I try to use lift off to help cornering.
Yeah I do the same thing to help with rotation, seems to help a lot for mid corner corrections. The occasional brake tap helps as well to give the front tires some more grip.
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Anyone looking to improve their time needs to watch this video. It's long, but well worth the watch.
GT5 [1080p] - GT Academy 2012 (8-5) - Tutorial/Video Guide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZILNcVJFjag#ws)
I watched most of it last night and holy shit was I doing some corners wrong. Can't wait to get home and try this.
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Even though I'm frustrated with not being able to improve my time, I'm starting to think I'm the only person in the world that's having fun with this car. I like it. :-\
IMO, the car rides like a shit brick... From what I hear, the tires don't do it justice compared to its real life counter part. I wouldn't like to make my judgement based on a video game but after hours and hours with it, I can't help but smite the SOB.
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Even though I'm frustrated with not being able to improve my time, I'm starting to think I'm the only person in the world that's having fun with this car. I like it. :-\
IMO, the car rides like a shit brick... From what I hear, the tires don't do it justice compared to its real life counter part. I wouldn't like to make my judgement based on a video game but after hours and hours with it, I can't help but smite the SOB.
I don't know about the tires thing, my little brother did some extensive testing to find the tires he has on his BMW are equivalent to the same tires we are given for this test. Assuming you are talking about the factory tires from an IRL 270Z I simply can not speculate them being any softer. If I am mistaken and you are referring to Nissan's training cars, yeah, you are most likely right on the mark.
Where my problem is, is in the diff, I can not for the life of me understand why the back end will not stay down. It does not matter three or five grand, I put the power down and it's lights up the damn thing tries to spin. Yes, I am on a controller, but every last one of you has seen me on the track with everything ranging from comfort hard to racing soft and I don't have the problems with my cars that I have with that damn 270Z, even during races where tuning is prohibited. Something ain't right with the diff. Every driver has a unique style and this car simply does not accommodate mine for shit, suffice it to say, if this final had been in the GT-R I would have been singing a different tune despite the fact I know that without tuning the car it simply does not preform to it's max, My GT-R's turn on a dime, factory ones do not but I can still drive the fucking things. I might just throw that fucking 270Z in the trash when they arrive.
I wasted my time registering for this, I'm not going to bother registering for another one until I have a wheel, the way they tune these cars is bull shit and I'd be better able to compensate for it with a wheel, because I sure as hell can't the way it is now.
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I believe IRL the 370Z is equipped with Bridgestone RE050As.
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I believe IRL the 370Z is equipped with Bridgestone RE050As.
hmmm... then all you need is the wheel size and you can calculate top speed (redline) in each gear. it's a simple math formula.
That's something I miss from GT5P; e.g. knowing that I have third gear set to 101mph max... (http://i.imgur.com/hcqc0vy.gif)
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I believe IRL the 370Z is equipped with Bridgestone RE050As.
hmmm... then all you need is the wheel size and you can calculate top speed (redline) in each gear. it's a simple math formula.
That's something I miss from GT5P; e.g. knowing that I have third gear set to 101mph max... (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/2cents.gif)
I can only speak for the NC MX5, but the stock gearing seems to be right on with my real one. 3000rpm at 60mph in 6rd gear for both, didn't think to check the other gears though. I also run the same toe, camber, and spring rates(coil-overs) on my in game car, as my real one. They both act similar, of course I don't drive my real one like I do in game, but both are setup kinda loose.
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The gearing for the Premium '06 Honda S2000 is correct as far as I can tell. HOWEVER, in the game the redline is 8500 rpm. That is not the case in real life. Redline is 8000 and fuel cut is 8100. Thus, in the game you can hold each gear a little higher than in real life. As to the AP1 S2000s I have no idea because I don't own one ;D
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my problem with this combo is that it is soooooo boring, i've stated that i hate tt's before. i think the car would be great, i also think the track would be fun for racing, though i haven't cared much for it in the past. someone said it perfectly when they said , it's the trying to beat my own time part that takes all the fun out of it. as it is i seriously doubt i can muster up the motivation to even try it anymore.
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my problem with this combo is that it is soooooo boring, i've stated that i hate tt's before. i think the car would be great, i also think the track would be fun for racing, though i haven't cared much for it in the past. someone said it perfectly when they said , it's the trying to beat my own time part that takes all the fun out of it. as it is i seriously doubt i can muster up the motivation to even try it anymore.
I agree. Boring, though it is nice to see some different sand than what I'm used to.
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I was thinking today that it would be, perhaps more, interesting if the TT was a four-lap average. I was watching YouTube vids on this TT and people put down one amazing flyer, but then their other laps are half to a second or more slower. It seems like consistency (and lack of mistakes) should pay off a little. If I can run 4 clean, consecutive laps in the mid to low '32s, is that better or worse than someone who can lay down a 30.9 and then can't put another clean lap together all night? I pride myself on not making a lot of mistakes, even tho my times aren't as low.
Just thinking out loud... you know, about what would benefit me the most (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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I was thinking today that it would be, perhaps more, interesting if the TT was a four-lap average. I was watching YouTube vids on this TT and people put down one amazing flyer, but then their other laps are half to a second or more slower. It seems like consistency (and lack of mistakes) should pay off a little. If I can run 4 clean, consecutive laps in the mid to low '32s, is that better or worse than someone who can lay down a 30.9 and then can't put another clean lap together all night? I pride myself on not making a lot of mistakes, even tho my times aren't as low.
Just thinking out loud... you know, about what would benefit me the most (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
That will come into play in the next round as the top 32 race each other. I think last year they had 3 or 4 lap races with 4 players per race.
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my problem with this combo is that it is soooooo boring, i've stated that i hate tt's before. i think the car would be great, i also think the track would be fun for racing, though i haven't cared much for it in the past. someone said it perfectly when they said , it's the trying to beat my own time part that takes all the fun out of it. as it is i seriously doubt i can muster up the motivation to even try it anymore.
I agree. Boring, though it is nice to see some different sand than what I'm used to.
i hit the cones long before i get to the sand.
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I was thinking today that it would be, perhaps more, interesting if the TT was a four-lap average. I was watching YouTube vids on this TT and people put down one amazing flyer, but then their other laps are half to a second or more slower. It seems like consistency (and lack of mistakes) should pay off a little. If I can run 4 clean, consecutive laps in the mid to low '32s, is that better or worse than someone who can lay down a 30.9 and then can't put another clean lap together all night? I pride myself on not making a lot of mistakes, even tho my times aren't as low.
Just thinking out loud... you know, about what would benefit me the most (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I've been thinking the same thing, especially after turning into the double digits of laps averaging in the high 34's with a flyer in the low 34's.
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That's how they do TT's in iRacing. Depending on the length of the track you have to string together 5-6 laps that are incident free. It's very challenging; and believe it or not, there are still aliens that will average faster than your fastest lap.
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there are still aliens that will average faster than your fastest lap.
Exactly.
I think the reason you'll see the top guys have one amazing lap and 30 shitty ones is because they're pushing so hard to squeeze out those last few tenths (hundredths even) that they're bound to make lap killing mistakes more often than not. If these same top guys dialed it back just a few percent, they'd still be fast as fuck but I imagine their consistency would improve like crazy, and still be way faster than I'll ever be on my best 1 hot lap.
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Hey, Wiz,
Thanks for posting the tutorial...it's helped a lot. :2tu
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Shaved 6 tenths off after 60 minutes of trying. Then tried for another 60 minutes...and got nowhere >:( :-\ :P
Until tomorrow!
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First off, let me say that I hate Motegi. I always have since I first played it in GT3 or 4, I can't remember; it just doesn't feel like it flows well. When I saw that Motegi was going to be the round to advance to the finals it made me realize how lucky I was that we had the format that they used last year, with two tracks and a combined time. I don't think I would have stood a chance with this format; and frankly, I don't envy anyone who is dead set on advancing to the finals. It's already getting super tight up top, and with only one track (that is really short), there are going to be some broken hearts on Sunday night.
Seeing as how they (understandably) won't let the Silverstone guys participate I was kind of down on giving the TT a shot, then I drove 8-5 for the first time and was reminded of how much I don't like this track. I have some local friends who are giving the competition a good shot, so I decided to hop on and give it a go last night and put forth some effort so we could compare times. I got to a 32 flat last night, but didn't feel the mojo with the track or the car; I gave it another shake tonight and hit a 31.865 early on; ran lots of garbage laps most of the night, and then something clicked; I finally understood how to get that mobil-turd of a Z around those last few corners....consistently I was running 32.2's, 32.0, 31.9, 31.869. <- WAT???? Dammit man. Frankly it's too late to keep going and I need to hit the sack.
I am excited that I think I've got things figured out, so I hope to find a few more tenths before this thing is over. I'm in the frustrating zone now. Lot's of laps to shave a cunt hair of time.
As for a top 32 cut off, I think it's going to be in the 31.3's if not high 31.2's. Crazy fuckers. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Best of luck to those trying, keep at it; finding time TAKES time! :)
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Yes good video Wiz. I used to shave some time off. I think my time went down to 32.9. I could see me dropping a few tenths, if I put more time into it. I seem to lose speed in certain corners. One thing I have done differently is keep it in second exiting some corners. It seems to work for me. Two seconds behind the alien times is right where I would expect to be.
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I was thinking today that it would be, perhaps more, interesting if the TT was a four-lap average. I was watching YouTube vids on this TT and people put down one amazing flyer, but then their other laps are half to a second or more slower. It seems like consistency (and lack of mistakes) should pay off a little. If I can run 4 clean, consecutive laps in the mid to low '32s, is that better or worse than someone who can lay down a 30.9 and then can't put another clean lap together all night? I pride myself on not making a lot of mistakes, even tho my times aren't as low.
Just thinking out loud... you know, about what would benefit me the most (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I've been thinking about this same thing recently as I've been running in some places where you have to qualify. For the most part, I've always been a one-hit wonder. Given ample time and the desire to care, I've usually been able to put down ONE good lap at a track. Consistency is something I lack so I've wondered what the results would look like if I have to not only run 4 good laps, and not only 4 consecutive good laps, but 4 consecutive good laps out of 4 laps. Div 3 here I come.
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My best time is a 1:32.8xx and I've been able to lap 1:33.5's 2-3 laps in a row with very little variance. I'm not blazing fast but I can manage to be consistent :D
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Just noticed this on the official website leaderboard for the US..
1 - US - Let_Canada_In - 1:31.037
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Just noticed this on the official website leaderboard for the US..
1 - US - Let_Canada_In - 1:31.037
:)
Check the global times. 1:30.7. OMFG
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Check the global times. 1:30.7. OMFG
Yup. eclipsi_RC is ridiculous.
I'm still wondering where the hell Dan Holland is. I assume he's waiting until last minute to attempt to sneak in and take the top spot. And it won't surprise me one bit if he does just that.
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They don't handle like that in real life. :)
I'm not sure why they feel so wonky in the sim.
As far as I can tell, PD sets up their poor handling challenges to test us. Mission 34 comes to mind, too.
Is it fair? To whom? If they want to find good drivers, ones who can overcome a challenge, then maybe it is. They aren't doing that to make friends.
The track is boring because of the wide clearances on the sides, but I still enjoy the track layout** (not that I am fast on it or anything). And if anyone dislikes this short version, wait until you get on the long one again. :D
** The only track in the world that I shake my head at is Tilke's Fuji. What a waste of good tarmac!
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** The only track in the world that I shake my head at is Tilke's Fuji. What a waste of good tarmac!
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I hate that track with a passion.
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They don't handle like that in real life. :)
I'm not sure why they feel so wonky in the sim.
As far as I can tell, PD sets up their poor handling challenges to test us. Mission 34 comes to mind, too.
Is it fair? To whom? If they want to find good drivers, ones who can overcome a challenge, then maybe it is. They aren't doing that to make friends.
The track is boring because of the wide clearances on the sides, but I still enjoy the track layout** (not that I am fast on it or anything). And if anyone dislikes this short version, wait until you get on the long one again. :D
** The only track in the world that I shake my head at is Tilke's Fuji. What a waste of good tarmac!
My problem is, the absolute lack of personalization....In the real world professional drivers all have pit crews and build crews that work diligently to match the car to an individuals preference and/or driving style. Yes, I understand the point of being forced to drive a shit car for the sake of weeding out the shit wannabees as well as the potential of having to be stuck with a setup miss, but at the same time they are demolishing drivers who do have potential who's style does not match theirs. This crappy handling car test can still be done wile offering some personalization to the cars. I mentioned this to someone I can't remember who but their defense was that they want to find the best drivers not the best tuners....Well...no shit sherlock. What I want to know is why can they not have in the driving options "Setup 1", "Setup 2" and "setup 3" all set up to for lack luster handling under different driving styles for participants to choose from. I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it. I can not tell you how many times I have locked up the front tires and/or stalled the car out last night because that car simply refuses to tolerate my style of trail braking.
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i did manage to run a few more laps last night. ending with a 32.077, but a few laps i was over a half second going into 2nd to last turn only to blow it. like spec i really don't like the track, but if i don't try i'll never succeed
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They don't handle like that in real life. :)
I'm not sure why they feel so wonky in the sim.
As far as I can tell, PD sets up their poor handling challenges to test us. Mission 34 comes to mind, too.
Is it fair? To whom? If they want to find good drivers, ones who can overcome a challenge, then maybe it is. They aren't doing that to make friends.
The track is boring because of the wide clearances on the sides, but I still enjoy the track layout** (not that I am fast on it or anything). And if anyone dislikes this short version, wait until you get on the long one again. :D
** The only track in the world that I shake my head at is Tilke's Fuji. What a waste of good tarmac!
My problem is, the absolute lack of personalization....In the real world professional drivers all have pit crews and build crews that work diligently to match the car to an individuals preference and/or driving style. Yes, I understand the point of being forced to drive a shit car for the sake of weeding out the shit wannabees as well as the potential of having to be stuck with a setup miss, but at the same time they are demolishing drivers who do have potential who's style does not match theirs. This crappy handling car test can still be done wile offering some personalization to the cars. I mentioned this to someone I can't remember who but their defense was that they want to find the best drivers not the best tuners....Well...no shit sherlock. What I want to know is why can they not have in the driving options "Setup 1", "Setup 2" and "setup 3" all set up to for lack luster handling under different driving styles for participants to choose from. I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it. I can not tell you how many times I have locked up the front tires and/or stalled the car out last night because that car simply refuses to tolerate my style of trail braking.
Valid point, but it's never going to change the fact that fast guys are fast and most guys aren't. If they allowed tuning, I'd be 10 seconds a lap off the pace instead of just 9. Regardless of how they set up the cars, the fast guys are always going to beat the slow guys.
Over the years I've raced with guys of all kinds of ability and I've learned one thing-->from the start to the finish, guys like Hey will be faster than me in his tune, faster than me with no tune, and worst of all, faster than me with my own tune.
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what I don't understand is why there is such a clear disconnect between europe and the us as far as TT's. I understand they are per capita more of a racing culture(s) (that is, if you ignore nascar) but how the heck do they win almost every TT in GT5 to date?
I seriously wonder if there's some sort of difference between the regional games. also, there was one TT on Kart Space where it seemed that bots were running the laps for someone. Statistically, what we saw did not make sense, as the top few times were not merely tenths or hundredths faster than those directly behind them, but seconds faster. I won't come right out and accuse anyone of cheating, but what was accomplished on that TT was not the normal alien vs human game we see on the rest of them. I never had proof so I've kept my mouth sort of semi-shut.
here is a graph I made of that Kart Space TT:
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Sorry, you will have to interpret that chart for me.
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Looks like the top few drivers are over two seconds ahead of everyone else, which is Very rare. I always wonder why there is such dominance over US drivers in TTs.
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My problem is, the absolute lack of personalization...
I really don't think they could run the initial open part of the contest with any sort of variability. Maybe during later stages, but not the first one. They have to draw a line in the sand somehow, to separate the wheat from the chaff first, then get down to the real business of running a serious contest. They are only interested in the top few drivers, not most of us.
The car isn't all that hard to drive, once you understand it, and the track has its own challenges, like any track should, and Motegi is a good way to renew interest in GT, so I guess they did a good job of it.
(I don't hate any track, including this one.
I just think Tilke blew Fuji.)
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My problem is, the absolute lack of personalization...
I really don't think they could run the initial open part of the contest with any sort of variability. Maybe during later stages, but not the first one. They have to draw a line in the sand somehow, to separate the wheat from the chaff first, then get down to the real business of running a serious contest. They are only interested in the top few drivers, not most of us.
The car isn't all that hard to drive, once you understand it, and the track has its own challenges, like any track should, and Motegi is a good way to renew interest in GT, so I guess they did a good job of it.
(I don't hate any track, including this one.
I just think Tilke blew Fuji.)
I kinda like Fuji. I will agree Tilke tracks make better parades than races though.
Also, regarding Fuji. I wonder if you can see most of the track from the front straight grandstand. oops I guess not.
Fuji Speedway Grand Stand View (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj8pWAOVVIY#ws)
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Sorry for the :tunafy carry on.
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Sorry, you will have to interpret that chart for me.
it was made from copying and pasting the results posted at gran-turismo.com into a spreadsheet and then using a report program to create the graph.
it shows how there was around 1 sec difference total between the top 240 some odd players with hundredths between them most of the time, until suddenly there was a leap downward.
each line in the big line is a player.
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So the last eight or so are from EU and the rest are not?
(Does the nearly straight part also include other Europeans?)
My console is not turned on. Is this TT still up?
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
193st as of this writing. :-\
And way awesome. I really must put some time in here. I may only roll a 33, but it will be better than the 35.9xx I have now. :jimi:
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Next year the Tuna should mount an assault on the top 500. I firmly believe most of the guys around here can do that and it would not only be funny to keep seeing Tuna names pop up but it might be some free publicity. Maybe even find some quality racers out of it all.
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
Turn off the ABS.
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
Turn off the ABS.
Why?
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Next year the Tuna should mount an assault on the top 500. I firmly believe most of the guys around here can do that and it would not only be funny to keep seeing Tuna names pop up but it might be some free publicity. Maybe even find some quality racers out of it all.
To put it bluntly, I may not participate next year. I am really beginning to dislike the way it's being processed. I have a group of guys that I periodically run with when we are not doing anything that consists of not only real world race drivers but also racing instructors at tracks featured in GT-5. I can hold my own and even win races with these guys but I can't break the top thousand in these damn tests.....something ain't right.
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Next year the Tuna should mount an assault on the top 500. I firmly believe most of the guys around here can do that and it would not only be funny to keep seeing Tuna names pop up but it might be some free publicity. Maybe even find some quality racers out of it all.
I'm going to try to get Tuna_Girls into the top 50. I loathe this track, but if I put my head down I may be able to string a super quick lap together. I didnt see the rig last night, but she's calling my name tonight.
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
Turn off the ABS.
Why?
I have been trying to run without it during the tests because I have known myself to be faster with it off.
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Next year the Tuna should mount an assault on the top 500. I firmly believe most of the guys around here can do that and it would not only be funny to keep seeing Tuna names pop up but it might be some free publicity. Maybe even find some quality racers out of it all.
I have 2 names in the top 250 (1 name you guys don't know about ;) ) and I plan on firing up TunaWiz soon and getting him in there as well. :)
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
Turn off the ABS.
Why?
I have been trying to run without it during the tests because I have known myself to be faster with it off.
Ok but in GT5 I assume you adjust your brake bias to make ABS off more manageable. Without being able to adjust the brake bias in GT Academy, of course the car is gonna handle like shit with no ABS.
Why not just try turning on ABS to 1 and see what happens?
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
Turn off the ABS.
Why?
I have been trying to run without it during the tests because I have known myself to be faster with it off.
Ok but in GT5 I assume you adjust your brake bias to make ABS off more manageable. Without being able to adjust the brake bias in GT Academy, of course the car is gonna handle like shit with no ABS.
Why not just try turning on ABS to 1 and see what happens?
Consistant 35.5's
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If you all create some Canadian accounts, we could kick ass on the leader board. Sure, it's the Canadian leader board, but it's still a leader board. I got up to 48, but know I've been pushed back to the 50s now.
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I my self am a trail breaker, I am on the binders for a long time and deep into the apex....Try doing that with this test some time and see where you wind up, I would advise taking a sand wedge with you because you'll need it.
192nd as of this writing. :-\
Turn off the ABS.
Why?
I have been trying to run without it during the tests because I have known myself to be faster with it off.
Ok but in GT5 I assume you adjust your brake bias to make ABS off more manageable. Without being able to adjust the brake bias in GT Academy, of course the car is gonna handle like shit with no ABS.
Why not just try turning on ABS to 1 and see what happens?
Consistant 35.5's
I was being rushed out the door so I could not finish my thought.
When I run from ABS to no ABS in GT-5 I do not make any adjustment to my braking bias to compensate for the lack of ABS. I run the same numbers with or without. Yes, it is significantly less than default but that does not change the fact they are not done to compensate for the sudden loss of ABS.
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Well good luck then. Sounds like it's working out well for you. (http://i.imgur.com/72hCM.png)
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I watched that 45 min tutorial last night and then spent 2 1/2 hrs trying to beat my existing time...which I did, by 0.003 seconds. In other words I sucked (comparative) ass last night. Low 1:33's all day long, but low 1:32s or better? Not even close :(
Think I'll give it a rest tonight (got plans anyway) but I'll give it another shot Friday.
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felt good to improve my time twice last night. when I stopped there were still spots I knew I could be faster. Maybe I'll improve again before it's over, but probably won't be in top 250.
top 100 would have been glorious, as I don't really want to be a race driver, but would love to have the prestige of being in top 100.
got past a few people I didn't think I would, though.
01:32.776
world - #3574 US - #421 (atm)
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So the last eight or so are from EU and the rest are not?
(Does the nearly straight part also include other Europeans?)
My console is not turned on. Is this TT still up?
that TT is not up any longer (closed end of Dec.). I guess my rant went off in two directions.
#1, why are those outside of North America so much better than us? I mean, if it's just that we suck, I want to know that. It's interesting from a sociological perspective.
#2, it really did seem, and looking at it again, I still feel there is something wrong wit hthe top times in that Kart Space TT.
6rd and 12nd are US players, but the top canadian, Turismo_Lester, is way down in 21th with a gap of 2.5 seconds???? He wins a lot of TTs and places in top ten very frequently. He lead this one in fact, for a while until other started nudging him down the list. Thats natural, what does not seem natural is the ability for only two racers, both happen to be from Spain, to do seconds faster than even 3st place.
There's aliens, and then there's cylons. At least we know the aliens have flesh and blood, whatever color it may be :D
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I have 2 questions regarding the "tutorial"
1) He brakes for a few turns with the car on the curbs. When I do this it is too unstable for my liking; anyone else have that problem?
2) After the 2nd long straight (after the chicane and before the underpass) he doesn't drop below 3rd gear. I simply could not get that to work. I would either understeer like a bitch or slow down too much. I could not get trailbraking to help with that, it just amplified the problem (and he didn't mention needing to do that).
Anybody else having issues trying to replicate his advice?
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While the video has good tips in it, the actual physical ability to give the correct inputs (timing and level of gas/brake and steering) is still in the hands of the individual. Knowing how to do something right - or extremely well - doesn't mean that you can. I could watch and try to follow that video numerous times, but doubt I'd get below 32.5. As it is, I'll be lucky to beat your 32.7 wolfdawson.
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I have 2 questions regarding the "tutorial"
1) He brakes for a few turns with the car on the curbs. When I do this it is too unstable for my liking; anyone else have that problem?
2) After the 2nd long straight (after the chicane and before the underpass) he doesn't drop below 3rd gear. I simply could not get that to work. I would either understeer like a bitch or slow down too much. I could not get trailbraking to help with that, it just amplified the problem (and he didn't mention needing to do that).
Anybody else having issues trying to replicate his advice?
Yes, I have a lot of trouble braking on curbs.
I also use second gear much more than him. Third give under steer. It may be we get third too early in the corner.
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^^Hehe, thanks for the compliment ;) And while your points are certainly true I will say that his shift point for the chicane, as well as throttle modulation before it, were helpful with stability and consistency but they ultimately did nothing to improve my overall time.
Other than Friday night I dunno when I'll be able to get a final crack at this. I've got my bday this week so I'm busy with a few celebration events and whatnot ;D
^yeah agreed. Though I've found with practice using a lot more of 3rd gear in turn 1 and the 2nd to last turn has benefited me. I guess I'm losing time somewhere else (since my times didn't drop) or the helpfulness there is just my flawed perception.
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I have 2 questions regarding the "tutorial"
1) He brakes for a few turns with the car on the curbs. When I do this it is too unstable for my liking; anyone else have that problem?
2) After the 2nd long straight (after the chicane and before the underpass) he doesn't drop below 3rd gear. I simply could not get that to work. I would either understeer like a bitch or slow down too much. I could not get trailbraking to help with that, it just amplified the problem (and he didn't mention needing to do that).
Anybody else having issues trying to replicate his advice?
I didn't notice him braking on curbing, but I could have missed it. secondly, that turn you're referring to just needs a left to right turn-in and not too late, not too early. if you nail the angle, keep in 3rd so you can escape without losing any traction.
that video helped me, for sure.
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maybe I'll call in sick tomorrow and put some solid time in :P
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I don't have any luck braking on the curb in turn 1 but I do brake on the curb for turn 6.
I also do not understand how he takes turn 6 in 3nd gear. I tried it about 20 times last night and couldn't get it right so I said fuck it and went back to using 2st gear there.
Meanwhile, I'm still stuck at 32.250. Been stuck there for 5 days. If I don't get into the 31's by the weekend I'm gonna say fuck it and turn Active Steering on strong and see what happens. By then I won't care if people give me shit for using an aid, I just want a :fucking 31! ^-^
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I don't have any luck braking on the curb in turn 1 but I do brake on the curb for turn 6.
I also do not understand how he takes turn 6 in 3nd gear. I tried it about 20 times last night and couldn't get it right so I said fuck it and went back to using 2st gear there.
Meanwhile, I'm still stuck at 32.250. Been stuck there for 5 days. If I don't get into the 31's by the weekend I'm gonna say fuck it and turn Active Steering on strong and see what happens. By then I won't care if people give me shit for using an aid, I just want a FUCKING 31! ^-^
I tried active steering on mild once just to give me a giggle to cool down and recompose my self after the test pissed me off...the god damn thin started to counter steer in three and four and the fucker turned right off the track and DQ'd me.
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Next year the Tuna should mount an assault on the top 500. I firmly believe most of the guys around here can do that and it would not only be funny to keep seeing Tuna names pop up but it might be some free publicity. Maybe even find some quality racers out of it all.
I'm going to try to get Tuna_Girls into the top 50. I loathe this track, but if I put my head down I may be able to string a super quick lap together. didnt see the rig last night, but she's calling my name tonight.
Awesome, good luck!! :)
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Next year the Tuna should mount an assault on the top 500. I firmly believe most of the guys around here can do that and it would not only be funny to keep seeing Tuna names pop up but it might be some free publicity. Maybe even find some quality racers out of it all.
I'm going to try to get Tuna_Girls into the top 50. I loathe this track, but if I put my head down I may be able to string a super quick lap together. didnt see the rig last night, but she's calling my name tonight.
Awesome, good luck!! :)
Thanks Looney! I'm tired, but I plan on getting later to see if I can find some time. I see a lot of names on there of people I race with so it's possible, it's just going to take alot of work and I'm still worn out from giving my soul to last years TT. :)
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So instead of waiting for the weekend to try Active Steering on strong I decided to let TunaWiz use AS and keep GTP_Wizard with it off.
Tonight, TunaWiz beat GTP_Wizard by .045 with a 1:32.205
I'll say this, the car does seem to be easier to handle. Seems like I can get on the throttle just a split second sooner and the rear end doesn't seem to come around as easy. I can definitely see me getting a 31 with AS on strong. On one lap, I'd guess I was up by a 1/2 second on my best ghost only to blow the 2nd to last corner. Probably would have been a 31.7 or 31.8 if I had held it together.
Only 3 more days to get that :fucking 31!
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I noticed the "days left" changed from 4 to 3 at around 7:00 eastern tonight.
So if I'm thinking correctly, this thing ends on Saturday and not Sunday, like I originally thought.
Does anyone know if that's correct? Does it end on Saturday?
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I noticed the "days left" changed from 4 to 3 at around 7:00 eastern tonight.
So if I'm thinking correctly, this thing ends on Saturday and not Sunday, like I originally thought.
Does anyone know if that's correct? Does it end on Saturday?
Wiz, This comes from the official Academy site on the Intro page...
Round 1 and 2: 5/01 (Tue) - 6/24 (Sun)
Round 3 and 4: 5/14 (Sun) - 6/24 (Sun)
Round 5 and 6: 5/28 (Sun) - 6/24 (Sun)
Round 7 and 8 (ROUND 8 IS FINAL/QUALIFICATION EVENT): 6/11 (Sun) - 6/24 (Sun)
The online competition officially ends on Sunday, 6/24
This from the official rules page...
Contest Dates. The Contest begins on June 11, 2012 11:00 PM EST and ends on June 24, 2012 11:00 PM EST. (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/)
I need to add one thing... I hate Cote d' Azur' ... not a casual hate... but a deep seated and irreconcilable one... >:( I know some of you love this track, but I have never been able to do much on it and trying to run it has been much more of a chore than fun. Did pretty well on 7-1 and 7-2, but 7-3 :( It'll be my worst showing I'm sure... Ok... vented now back to it...
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Ok... did alright on Cote d' Azur... sorry Dude... but every run just felt like I was barely hanging on... really almost out of control. Had many many more effed up runs than good ones. I might have a little left, been ahead of my ghost going into the last two turns, but I've had enough... next. This track exhausts me. :'(
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Was that the TT at the end of the track at Monaco? One of my least favorite tests. The car didn't seem to want to turn at all for me, which meant hitting walls repeatedly. I don't mind the track, but that test wasn't fun.
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Thanks for the info Infini!
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Was that the TT at the end of the track at Monaco? One of my least favorite tests. The car didn't seem to want to turn at all for me, which meant hitting walls repeatedly. I don't mind the track, but that test wasn't fun.
Yeah Turbo, that's the one. I just have never liked that track and with that car... it really was wall city. I did well enough to satisfy myself, but it was brutal. :'(
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Thanks for the info Infini!
No prob Wiz. I wasn't sure myself and your question made me look. Glad it's Sunday, it'll give me time to piecemeal together 8.
Hell, I just started 7 last night (procrastinated on this one) and I have only 7-5 left. Which I'll be doing this morning. Then I will do 8 over the last few days... Twin Ring Montegi is in that one right? Another track I'm not all that fond of... figures. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) Though not as bad as Cote d' Azur'.
To me 7 is the one I'm putting the most time into, it'll be my personal benchmark and I'll see how 8 goes.
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Ok... so let me get this straight... We're doing the Ring in the rain and we're not on rain tires, but still on sport hards??? Well this ought to be interesting. I'm sure this has been brought up, but I haven't been totally keeping up.
Off to slip-slide away... weeeeeeeeee!!
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Ok... so let me get this straight... We're doing the Ring in the rain and we're not on rain tires, but still on sport hards??? Well this ought to be interesting. I'm sure this has been brought up, but I haven't been totally keeping up.
Off to slip-slide away... weeeeeeeeee!!
Sports tires are "street" tires, and in some cases have proved to be better than rain tires. ;)
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Ok... so let me get this straight... We're doing the Ring in the rain and we're not on rain tires, but still on sport hards??? Well this ought to be interesting. I'm sure this has been brought up, but I haven't been totally keeping up.
Off to slip-slide away... weeeeeeeeee!!
Sports tires are "street" tires, and in some cases have proved to be better than rain tires. ;)
So I have found out Chrome :) , they work much better than I anticipated. A little tricky at that last turn, otherwise not bad at all.
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Frustration is... when you're running 2.5 car lengths ahead of your best lap (32.526) and you upshift twice coming off the last corner, bogging the car down and losing almost a second, effectively shitting on any mojo you may have had going.
>:( >:( >:(
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Frustration is... when you're running 2.5 car lengths ahead of your best lap (32.526) and you upshift twice coming off the last corner, bogging the car down and losing almost a second, effectively shitting on any mojo you may have had going.
>:( >:( >:(
I've done similar repeatedly....one notable one I bumped my shifter and down shifted in the middle of a straight.
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While the video has good tips in it, the actual physical ability to give the correct inputs (timing and level of gas/brake and steering) is still in the hands of the individual. Knowing how to do something right - or extremely well - doesn't mean that you can. I could watch and try to follow that video numerous times, but doubt I'd get below 32.5. As it is, I'll be lucky to beat your 32.7 wolfdawson.
OK, so I may have been slightly off here. I made a few asjustments to try to follow tips more closely, adjusted a few lines, and managed a 1'32.392, good for 20th in Canada, less than a tenth behind clacksman, in 19th. Not bad, I would say.
Weird how I did it though. Based on certain topics, I decided to try it with the controller, and got a low 1'34. I switched to my old wheel (a 200 degree logitech that is falling apart) and got a high 1'33. I switched back to my DFGT and got a 32.6, 32.3, and 33.4, in that order.
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that is weird, Turbo. but it may make some sense. sorta like playing a guitar at too high a speed and then slowing back down can make you more precise.
good job. it didn't feel right being ahead of you ;)
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1:31.939 for TunaWiz. Great job man!!!! Persistence paid off. 8)
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Great time Wiz. You guys are making it very hard to stay in the top ten on my friends list. Now in Canada Clacksman is 20, turbo 21, gt11 22, forgetful 30 and Neptune 34.
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Great time Wiz. You guys are making it very hard to stay in the top ten on my friends list. Now in Canada Clacksman is 20, turbo 21, gt11 22, forgetful 30 and Neptune 34.
Cool! Good job doc. I'm not sure I'll be running again. The weekend is here, shit is busy, and that time is better than I expected anyway. Good luck everyone!
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Great time Wiz. You guys are making it very hard to stay in the top ten on my friends list. Now in Canada Clacksman is 20, turbo 21, gt11 22, forgetful 30 and Neptune 34.
Cool! Good job doc. I'm not sure I'll be running again. The weekend is here, shit is busy, and that time is better than I expected anyway. Good luck everyone!
I'm really happy with my time as well especially considering how I've been driving recently. I'll probably give it one more shot tonight. I'm not a big fan of muscle cars so I'll probably skip the midnight show. Enyo grill is mysteriously absent from the top times so I suspect that I'll be dropping at least one more spot before the weekend is up
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i now have sudden company at home so...... >:( . i really home noone cares if i break away every once in a while to try and get a good time...
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Wow, amazing time Wiz! I guess there's some truth to you name afterall ;)
On the opposite end of the spectrum I officially give up. Between Tuesday and Thursday nights I've spent 6 hours trying to improve my time and I have failed. The weird thing is last night I felt faster and more consistent than ever. Consistent 1:32.9s was the best I could do though :( My internet connect has been extremely slow (load times can be measured in minutes, not seconds) so I (hopefully and unrealistically) thought maybe I had a timing issue and reset the whole system, to no avail :P
I'm moving out of my current house in 3 weeks and instead of packing when I have spare time I've been working on 8-5. But enough's enough, I'm done. :'(
Time to jump in with both feet to packing. Oh what fun! :lolz
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I think I'm done. Managed to shave off a little but it is very frustrating. I gain time on one section only to lose it on the next. Can't put a complete lap in but at least I'm starting to run consistent 32s. I liked being a couple of spots behind Clacksman but he went and ruined it by finding a bunch of time. Looks like he is running a gated shifter. Not many people doing that. I think that I've learned a lot working on this time trial. For those of you that have registered GTP tags, this weeks weekly race series is using the academy. This will be the only one that I have entered. Good luck on anyone trying to make it into the final 32.
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I made an attempt to improve yesterday. I gave it 3 laps and wasn't even close. No fun = no play.
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I was curious about the overall global number of participants as the rounds went on. I took yet another alternate account and what I did was take the bronze target time and quadrupled it for my target lap times. So if a round had a bronze time of 30 seconds, I'd run 2 minutes. I did this for 1-1 & 1-5, 2-1 & 2-5, 3-1 & 3-5, etc.
Results...
1-1- 947371
1-5- 637547
2-1- 577631
2-5- 431462
3-1- 366853
3-5- 331167
4-1- 326863
4-5- 310239
5-1- 275539
5-5- 258190
6-1- 247750
6-5- 79796***
7-1- 204441
7-5- 191429
8-1- 185802
8-5- 174724 (19513 USA, 10:30.xxx lap)
*** Leaderboard was wiped
Pretty steady decline the whole way through. What surprised me the most was the drop from 1-1 to 1-5.
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Very crazy decline Wiz! I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was to make the competition to long. They needed to shorten it up and they would have kept peoples interest. I'm also not sure if there will be a GT Academy next year, but if they do have one I hope they go back to the two track format with a combined time. I liked that format a lot more than one short track.
PS: Motegi is a dumb track with lots of dumb corners that drive you insane. ^-^
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PS: Motegi is a dumb track with lots of dumb corners that drive you insane. ^-^
Maybe, but it sure was a great way to dangle some DLC before our eyes. 8)
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Very crazy decline Wiz! I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was to make the competition to long. They needed to shorten it up and they would have kept peoples interest. I'm also not sure if there will be a GT Academy next year, but if they do have one I hope they go back to the two track format with a combined time. I liked that format a lot more than one short track.
PS: Motegi is a dumb track with lots of dumb corners that drive you insane. ^-^
If they hold a GT academy next yer I don't think I'm going to bother. If I want to get in to a real car bad enough I'll take a ride on the coat tails of a friend of mine that runs Grand-Am, It'll be easier that way and I'll have a far more realistic idea of where I stand. I'm tired of dicking with PD's idea of fast. Only thing that I'll bother for is if there are cars like they have this year.
P.S. I like Motegi, It's generally been nice to me.
*EDIT* Grand-Am not Can-Am.
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I would have liked to see how Canadian rankings would have looked if more Canadians really tried. Not that I'll complain about 27th, but I would expect to be lower. I did pretty well, like I said, better than expected.
Its a challenging track. Good car. A two track combined time wouldn't have hurt. I think the whole setup was just fine, but your probably right about people losing interest.
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Very crazy decline Wiz! I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was to make the competition to long. They needed to shorten it up and they would have kept peoples interest. I'm also not sure if there will be a GT Academy next year, but if they do have one I hope they go back to the two track format with a combined time. I liked that format a lot more than one short track.
PS: Motegi is a dumb track with lots of dumb corners that drive you insane. ^-^
I'm not too surprised. This was a free download so I'm sure many people downloaded it who had no real interest in GT at all and just wanted to try it out. More than half dropped out after the first two levels which were available initially. Then there was a gradual decline as people lost interest or realized that they didn't have a chance.
It was a neat idea. Teach a bunch of gamers to drive by making them do a series of license tests and then have one final test to see if they can put it all together over one lap. The problem was that the earlier levels didn't count and I suspect that most of the finalists will have already had tons of experience with racing simulators before this event. The next question is: is the long drawn out gt academy a good advertisement to sell GT? Not sure about that.
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I would have liked to see how Canadian rankings would have looked if more Canadians really tried. Not that I'll complain about 27th, but I would expect to be lower. I did pretty well, like I said, better than expected.
Its a challenging track. Good car. A two track combined time wouldn't have hurt. I think the whole setup was just fine, but your probably right about people losing interest.
Ya, but top 30 really sounds awesome doesn't it? Or say it like this: Over 1 million people signed up and we ended up top 30 in Canada. Impressive, most impressive.
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I hope they do this again. It was fun with a new track and new things to try. And it was free! ;)
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I hope they do this again. It was fun with a new track and new things to try. And it was free! ;)
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It's always fun and GT Academy will always have a special place in my heart. Let's hope that Sony and Nissan have good success in business and can keep the program alive.
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I thought it was a lot of fun, maybe I can do better next time :)
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Very crazy decline Wiz! I think one of the biggest mistakes they made was to make the competition to long. They needed to shorten it up and they would have kept peoples interest. I'm also not sure if there will be a GT Academy next year, but if they do have one I hope they go back to the two track format with a combined time. I liked that format a lot more than one short track.
PS: Motegi is a dumb track with lots of dumb corners that drive you insane. ^-^
If they hold a GT academy next yer I don't think I'm going to bother. If I want to get in to a real car bad enough I'll take a ride on the coat tails of a friend of mine that runs Can-Am, It'll be easier that way and I'll have a far more realistic idea of where I stand. I'm tired of dicking with PD's idea of fast. Only thing that I'll bother for is if there are cars like they have this year.
P.S. I like Motegi, It's generally been nice to me.
If Ronin is out next year, I'm out too.
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Pretty steady decline the whole way through. What surprised me the most was the drop from 1-1 to 1-5.
I think what you're seeing there is a lot of people getting turned off to Academy because of the stupid Nissan Leaf.
Bad marketing decision, which was my first thought when driving it... wow, they want to try and sell me this in a racing game? I understand the need for a slow car test but the leaf does not sell itself.
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I thought it was a lot of fun, maybe I can do better next time :)
without a new game release and running the TT's off that game, the participation will dwindle, which means the competition will become more fierce.
a top 100 placing next year will be extremely difficult, as we'll all grow as racers in the meantime. a top 1000 may be very easy, because only a couple thousand may try at all...
exXboxfan final
01:32.521
US - 424
WW - 3330
#5 on US only friends list
#10 on WW friends list
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A big CONGRATS to all you guys who did well in this 8)
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A big CONGRATS to all you guys who did well in this 8)
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I just wanted the Leaf!
:D
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I have been trying to run without it during the tests because I have known myself to be faster with it off.
I'm confused... Are you sure? ;)
To put it bluntly, I may not participate next year. I am really beginning to dislike the way it's being processed. I have a group of guys that I periodically run with when we are not doing anything that consists of not only real world race drivers but also racing instructors at tracks featured in GT-5. I can hold my own and even win races with these guys but I can't break the top thousand in these damn tests.....something ain't right.
Getting even more confused... Again, are you sure?
If they hold a GT academy next yer I don't think I'm going to bother. If I want to get in to a real car bad enough I'll take a ride on the coat tails of a friend of mine that runs Can-Am, It'll be easier that way and I'll have a far more realistic idea of where I stand. I'm tired of dicking with PD's idea of fast. Only thing that I'll bother for is if there are cars like they have this year.
P.S. I like Motegi, It's generally been nice to me.
And what is yours? The race you handed to Chrome?
I don't know about the tires thing, my little brother did some extensive testing to find the tires he has on his BMW are equivalent to the same tires we are given for this test. Assuming you are talking about the factory tires from an IRL 270Z I simply can not speculate them being any softer. If I am mistaken and you are referring to Nissan's training cars, yeah, you are most likely right on the mark.
Where my problem is, is in the diff, I can not for the life of me understand why the back end will not stay down. It does not matter three or five grand, I put the power down and it's lights up the damn thing tries to spin. Yes, I am on a controller, but every last one of you has seen me on the track with everything ranging from comfort hard to racing soft and I don't have the problems with my cars that I have with that damn 270Z, even during races where tuning is prohibited. Something ain't right with the diff. Every driver has a unique style and this car simply does not accommodate mine for shit, suffice it to say, if this final had been in the GT-R I would have been singing a different tune despite the fact I know that without tuning the car it simply does not preform to it's max, My GT-R's turn on a dime, factory ones do not but I can still drive the fucking things. I might just throw that fucking 270Z in the trash when they arrive.
I wasted my time registering for this, I'm not going to bother registering for another one until I have a wheel, the way they tune these cars is bull shit and I'd be better able to compensate for it with a wheel, because I sure as hell can't the way it is now.
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) Keep looking...
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A big CONGRATS to all you guys who did well in this 8)
:stoopid:
I just wanted the Leaf!
:D
after this event, not sure if even LastLeafFan is a leaf fan.
wait, does the leaf even run hot enough to need a fan?
lord know's my "ex" did. damn dog hair!
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[overheard at a GTAaa 12-step meeting]
Hello, my name is CharlieTuna and I am SLOW... :-[
[entire group says "Hello Charlie."]
I show up at #33+ in relationship to my Friends List I'd be lower down the list but the others are alts that folks didn't run... :(
:fly
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As long as everyone met their personal goal, beat a buddy's time, and got free cars with neat logos; then I would call this a success.
I didn't achieve my goal but I also didn't commit the time I should have to get there. Still had fun though. :)
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I was interested to see where I ended up:
3,356 globally.
Aaaand there is no option to select 8-5 USA.
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Aaaand there is no option to select 8-5 USA.
If you go to this page - http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round8/ (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2012/event/round8/) you can select 8-5 USA and then there is a little check box next to it "My Record"
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One of the fish who swims in these waters also frequents the deeper waters shared by much faster fish. The other fish, actual racing fish in real life, are apparently the cheetahs of the water. This one fish I know can usually hang with these cheetah fish, and occasionally, can beat said cheetah fish.
My only goal was to beat this one fish who runs with the cheetah fish. I accomplished that goal in 17 laps, none of which were completed while sober, so I'm pretty excited about how I did.
The way I see it, if I can beat the one fish I know who can sometimes beat the cheetah fish, and I can do it with a blood alcohol level approaching double digits, you fuckers don't stand a chance.
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As long as everyone met their personal goal, beat a buddy's time, and got free cars with neat logos; then I would call this a success.
I didn't achieve my goal but I also didn't commit the time I should have to get there. Still had fun though. :)
I whipped gtp_wizards ass which is all that mattered since he's a bit of a jerk. Couldn't come close to tunawiz's time but that's ok since he's a great guy.
These smileys are all laughing at me. It'd drive me crazy if I wasn't already there.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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From the GT site...
* Please note that the arrival timing of the prizes may vary slightly from user to user.
* Please ensure to receive your prizes during the following time period. If you do not start your Gran Turismo 5 game within the following dates, any uncollected prizes will become invalid.
Prize Collection Period: July 4th, 2012 – January 25th, 2013
That's a hell of a time frame. I wonder how much of that PD will use to get the cars out. :laugh
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I guess I met my personal goal, which was to beat some of the people on my FL who I know I should be able to beat. beat them all, AND some that I did not expect to beat...
...like Fried, Baked, Enyo. But I have to say it's highly likely that they did not spend much time on this.
any other day of the week and I would have been at least half a second back.
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As long as everyone met their personal goal, beat a buddy's time, and got free cars with neat logos; then I would call this a success.
I didn't achieve my goal but I also didn't commit the time I should have to get there. Still had fun though. :)
I whipped gtp_wizards ass which is all that mattered since he's a bit of a jerk. Couldn't come close to tunawiz's time but that's ok since he's a great guy.
These smileys are all laughing at me. It'd drive me crazy if I wasn't already there.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
This is one of my favorite posts of all time.
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I liked that the tests showed where each of our talents shine best.
Aliens will be aliens, I never expected to land in front of them. But, I was surprised by who I bested and who I was bested by on a few of those tests. Granted we may not have spent the same amount of time on each one, but I think its an interesting study.
I knew I didn't stand a chance at any of the tests that featured those quick back to back repeated turns, but I knew I'd do OK with anything that dealt with higher speeds.
I hope they fix the LSD, tranny, tires, suspension, roll bars, spoilers, door jams and headlights in those cars before the give them to us Jan 24 2013 at 11:59.59pm (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
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I hope they fix the LSD, tranny, tires, suspension, roll bars, spoilers, door jams and headlights in those cars before the give them to us Jan 24 2013 at 11:59.59pm (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Agreed. I grew tired of driving cars that needed service work.
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From the GT site...
* Please note that the arrival timing of the prizes may vary slightly from user to user.
* Please ensure to receive your prizes during the following time period. If you do not start your Gran Turismo 5 game within the following dates, any uncollected prizes will become invalid.
Prize Collection Period: July 4th, 2012 – January 25th, 2013
That's a hell of a time frame. I wonder how much of that PD will use to get the cars out. :laugh
I believe their limited to sending only one car a day so it will take awhile. ::)
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I'm pretty sure there are a few guys here who didn't really put in a full effort...I'm sure they had something better to do. They were just more willing to acknowledge that than others. I may have had a better time the those guys too gt11, but they're usually faster than I am.
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Thanks Wiz.
430 in U.S.
.005 behind exXboxFan. Bastard!
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haha...
424 myself. wow there were 6 ppl in those .005 ??? I guess that's what happens when everything is so close.
I should really check the leaderboards and figure out who was ineligable because I could be:
#420 in actuality??
When I registered my time it was 410 and I wondered if it would finish around 420.
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From the GT site...
* Please note that the arrival timing of the prizes may vary slightly from user to user.
* Please ensure to receive your prizes during the following time period. If you do not start your Gran Turismo 5 game within the following dates, any uncollected prizes will become invalid.
Prize Collection Period: July 4th, 2012 – January 25th, 2013
That's a hell of a time frame. I wonder how much of that PD will use to get the cars out. :laugh
I believe their limited to sending only one car a day so it will take awhile. ::)
:lmao
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and I hope there wasn't $1,000,000 of "tuning" done to any of those cars... or GT no sendy!
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They figure they need to wait until after Dec. 12, 2012 and see what happens. That's a lot of expense sending all those cars. They might not have to pay up after all. In retrospect, that's good business sense, huh?
:lmao
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1rdly... Great time Wiz and Ex... I had no chance of even coming close to what time you guys put up. I barely broke into the 1:33's, but actually I'm OK with that. I was still finding out how to run the track and it hit me that braking early, sometimes earlier than I thought turned out a better time for some of those turns. It was in a way a frustrating track for me, as I said before, definitely not a track I liked in GT4, but once I got running it in this TT I found it was fun because of the challenge it represented.
The worse for me was the laps... many more than I care to think about, where I was 3, 4 maybe a bit more car lengths ahead of my ghost and would blow it each and every time in the final 2 turns. Come in to hot and still try to bring it around, yeah good luck with that. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) or my personal fave, hitting the throttle a hair to early and spinning it, that gets a bit irritating, especially for say the 10st time. :'(
All in all I had fun with it and did pretty much as I thought I would, but I do know one thing, the diff :-X wasn't in the car, we all ran the exact same one, it was in the skill level of each of us and the ones who have it showed they did. I just know I had fun and the ones who ran better than me... Kudo's to each of you. Good job!! :)
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It was a neat idea. Teach a bunch of gamers to drive by making them do a series of license tests and then have one final test to see if they can put it all together over one lap.
I liked it, too, in its own environment. It was something familiar to GT players.
The problem was that the earlier levels didn't count and I suspect that most of the finalists will have already had tons of experience with racing simulators before this event. The next question is: is the long drawn out gt academy a good advertisement to sell GT? Not sure about that.
The earlier stages did count, in that we had to complete them to advance. However, if they had made it so that we had to get all golds to advance, that would have sorted things differently. The only strain on the average player was in 8-5, but then the earlier prizes were in line with the effort needed, too.
PD can modify the contest, as they gain experience. If they feel that this one was too much, they can shorten it, but I'd not like them to make it easier. Raise the bar, a bit more. Taku told me that they had learned their lessons from the problems in last year's Academy, and I bet they learned a few more this year, too.
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I'm pretty sure there are a few guys here who didn't really put in a full effort...I'm sure they had something better to do. They were just more willing to acknowledge that than others. I may have had a better time the those guys too gt11, but they're usually faster than I am.
I know that I have a better time than many who are faster than me but 22nd in Canada would be 265 in the US and was 2150 in the world. 2150 in the world is in the top 1.5% of all the people who completed 8-5. My time was good enough for second place in division 3 at GTP. It was the top division 3 silver time which is my division. That may not be much to many people here but I'm quite happy with it. My ranking in Canada is almost certainly quite a bit better than it would be if Canada had something to compete for. I doubt that I will ever get close to 22nd in the nation for anything so I'm going to enjoy this.
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I'm pretty sure there are a few guys here who didn't really put in a full effort...I'm sure they had something better to do. They were just more willing to acknowledge that than others. I may have had a better time the those guys too gt11, but they're usually faster than I am.
I know that I have a better time than many who are faster than me but 22nd in Canada would be 265 in the US and was 2150 in the world. 2150 in the world is in the top 1.5% of all the people who completed 8-5. My time was good enough for second place in division 3 at GTP. It was the top division 3 silver time which is my division. That may not be much to many people here but I'm quite happy with it. My ranking in Canada is almost certainly quite a bit better than it would be if Canada had something to compete for. I doubt that I will ever get close to 22nd in the nation for anything so I'm going to enjoy this.
I mentioned Wiz and Ex earlier.... but there are others that deserve personal congrats too and you would be one of the GT11. Just some great laps you guys put in. Didn't mean to leave you out, I had just seen Wiz's final time and Ex had a post or so in there too.
I think I could have gotten another 1/2 or so of a second if I had started this before this past Thurs., but my time would never have been sub 1:33... lol Those that did that and some a bit lower still, wasn't an easy thing to do.... Get my respect for their accomplishments, great showing of skills guys.
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The earlier stages did count, in that we had to complete them to advance. However, if they had made it so that we had to get all golds to advance, that would have sorted things differently. The only strain on the average player was in 8-5, but then the earlier prizes were in line with the effort needed, too.
PD can modify the contest, as they gain experience. If they feel that this one was too much, they can shorten it, but I'd not like them to make it easier. Raise the bar, a bit more. Taku told me that they had learned their lessons from the problems in last year's Academy, and I bet they learned a few more this year, too.
I definitely think it should be shorter. Being long like this adds nothing to the Competition. I use a wheel and could have used a controller to gold probably every challenge 1 to 7. I golded part 6 with controller while pedalling an exercise bike. This from someone who really doesn't have the pace to compete in this type of thing. Let's be clear that it being long doesn't make it hard, it just makes it a bit of a chore. I think a good setup would have been to make entry into level 8 open, that would make it shorter for those who already have a grasp of gt5. There's no reason - competition related - to make 1 to 7 required to advance to level 8, especially when the only prizes/awards are six cars with silly paint jobs and a couple of tuners. Then maybe the level 8 challenges should actually be harder. Maybe they should be all full laps, with the final two counting for the competition.
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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/06/25/gt-academy-national-finals-racer-x-challenge-win-a-humanracing-gt-chassis/ (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/06/25/gt-academy-national-finals-racer-x-challenge-win-a-humanracing-gt-chassis/)
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I definitely think it should be shorter. Being long like this adds nothing to the Competition. I use a wheel and could have used a controller to gold probably every challenge 1 to 7. I golded part 6 with controller while pedalling an exercise bike. This from someone who really doesn't have the pace to compete in this type of thing. Let's be clear that it being long doesn't make it hard, it just makes it a bit of a chore. I think a good setup would have been to make entry into level 8 open, that would make it shorter for those who already have a grasp of gt5. There's no reason - competition related - to make 1 to 7 required to advance to level 8, especially when the only prizes/awards are six cars with silly paint jobs and a couple of tuners. Then maybe the level 8 challenges should actually be harder. Maybe they should be all full laps, with the final two counting for the competition.
it could be a little shorter, but I like the format of it in general.
it allowed newbies to figure out how the GT engine works and slowly get used to it over the course of many tests.
it allowed us to see who on our friends list was going to be a serious contendor come time for 8-5. There weren't a lot of surprises on my FL of people who gave almost no effort in 1-7 and then suddently sprang forward to battle in 8-5. I liked it that way.
Most of all, the longer format made it really feel as though it were building toward a grand finale. The anticipation grew, and so did the hype. The community came together.
If it were just some TT that didn't bring most of us to try it at least a little, then there would be a lot less of the community support that we've seen.
just my .02
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1rdly... Great time Wiz and Ex...
thanks 8
but don't forget Turbo! He had a few tenths lower than me. don't think he's much of a bragger though ;)
my accomplishment was really not a display of my skills, but my ability to learn quickly.
it took me several laps to get gold, then down to the 34's, many more for the 33's, and chip chip chip and finally down in mid 32 range.
when starting the final round, I did not think I'd make it as far as I did.
and that's the lesson I'm trying to show others... you are as fast as you decide to be. it's all in YOU. so too, is the roadblock keeping you from improving. when the voice tells you to quit because you can't do it, punch the voice in the face!
I kept improving and then saying "well maybe there's more? Let's see" and was surprised over and over.
In any normal order of things, I should NOT have finished as high as I did.
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My ranking in Canada is almost certainly quite a bit better than it would be if Canada had something to compete for. I doubt that I will ever get close to 22nd in the nation for anything so I'm going to enjoy this.
I only put any time into 8-5 and a bit into the wet Nurburgring stretch, so I could have placed higher if there was a real incentive to do so, but then the competition would have been higher, too.
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Congrats to all, especially those that did well. Not that I needed the GT Academy to confirm that we have some fast fish here, but it is nice to see. I couldn't be bothered to do anything but gold the events for the free stuff. I'm sure I could have done better, but I had no illusions of being the next academy winner.
Again, well done everyone!
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27th in Canada, top 400 in USA, top 3000 in world. Not bad. 1.7 seconds behind world leader. Pretty good overall. 6th on my friends list...but I know there are guys on my list that are faster, I know there are Canadians that are faster, so while I am satisfied, I can't really brag, even if it sounds like it a bit.
Fried, Baked, Dude, stepper, eggs, rick...the list goes on. There are fast fish in these waters, and I know that s bunch of guys I beat in this TT can challenge me or beat me any day online.
Ex, adapting to a car and track is a skill required in GT5/Academy, and involves learning. The word skill can have a broad meaning. Your skill, with effort, improved your time.
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27th in Canada, top 400 in USA, top 3000 in world. Not bad. 1.7 seconds behind world leader. Pretty good overall. 6th on my friends list...but I know there are guys on my list that are faster, I know there are Canadians that are faster, so while I am satisfied, I can't really brag, even if it sounds like it a bit.
Fried, Baked, Dude, stepper, eggs, rick...the list goes on. There are fast fish in these waters, and I know that s bunch of guys I beat in this TT can challenge me or beat me any day online.
Ex, adapting to a car and track is a skill required in GT5/Academy, and involves learning. The word skill can have a broad meaning. Your skill, with effort, improved your time.
You're too kind, Turbo, but one of the names has to be removed from the list. I no longer have the skills to run with a lot of you guys. I've not put forth the effort in GT5 and the game, along with a lot of guys, has passed me by.
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27th in Canada, top 400 in USA, top 3000 in world. Not bad. 1.7 seconds behind world leader. Pretty good overall. 6th on my friends list...but I know there are guys on my list that are faster, I know there are Canadians that are faster, so while I am satisfied, I can't really brag, even if it sounds like it a bit.
Fried, Baked, Dude, stepper, eggs, rick...the list goes on. There are fast fish in these waters, and I know that s bunch of guys I beat in this TT can challenge me or beat me any day online.
Ex, adapting to a car and track is a skill required in GT5/Academy, and involves learning. The word skill can have a broad meaning. Your skill, with effort, improved your time.
You're too kind, Turbo, but one of the names has to be removed from the list. I no longer have the skills to run with a lot of you guys. I've not put forth the effort in GT5 and the game, along with a lot of guys, has passed me by.
Rick... stop beating yourself up.... heck... i bet you could beat me in a race. That's how rusty i am. Keep in mind that if you think you're bad. There is always... always someone worse at things.
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You're too kind, Turbo, but one of the names has to be removed from the list. I no longer have the skills to run with a lot of you guys. I've not put forth the effort in GT5 and the game, along with a lot of guys, has passed me by.
It would be much easier to quit this game if there weren't so many cool fishes around. 8)
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I enjoyed the academy, and even though i knew i probably wouldn't have a shot at the top 32, it was fun seeing how i could compete with some of you fishes (and you non-fishes as well :D ) I did think that it stretched out a bit long...i just couldn't get myself motivated for the final few tests as much as the previous ones, but i still wanted to see where i fit. I honestly think the one i ran the least amount of laps in was 8-5, lol...
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gt academy prize cars and gt academy suit (suit may only be avalible in certain countries/states) will be distibuted to gt5 from july 4th and will be avablible to collect from gift box from ten until janurary 2013
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You're too kind, Turbo, but one of the names has to be removed from the list. I no longer have the skills to run with a lot of you guys. I've not put forth the effort in GT5 and the game, along with a lot of guys, has passed me by.
unless we're racing on DRC, right?
you're still one of the best on that course, so I hear. but yea sometimes I feel I'm getting rusty too, when just taking a week being lazy and not turning many laps.
you think you'll just pick it up where you left off, but all my inputs seem more harsh and hence slower when coming back to the game.
I'm thinking about putting "SLOW IS FAST" on my LCD TV in black sharpie...
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You're too kind, Turbo, but one of the names has to be removed from the list. I no longer have the skills to run with a lot of you guys. I've not put forth the effort in GT5 and the game, along with a lot of guys, has passed me by.
unless we're racing on DRC, right?
you're still one of the best on that course, so I hear. but yea sometimes I feel I'm getting rusty too, when just taking a week being lazy and not turning many laps.
you think you'll just pick it up where you left off, but all my inputs seem more harsh and hence slower when coming back to the game.
I'm thinking about putting "SLOW IS FAST" on my LCD TV in black sharpie...
A couple notes...I'm very comfortable at DRC. Early on, I was scared of the bus stop like most other people but I eventually ran the track enough to where I realized it was an opportunity to pick up time on everyone who was still scared of the place. Liking the track has a lot to do and I have confidence there, so I run better there than at just about every place else.
The other night at the short Nurburg track was evidence to me that I can no longer compete with a lot of guys. I'm not very familiar with the track; I know the layout, but don't really know how the best lines to take around the track because I just haven't put in enough seat time. In my first few races, I was running 2:14s and the fast last was something like 2:11.9. I stayed for several races before finding the closest bar. The last race was the most telling for me. On the surface, it looked like a good race and finish for me. Brindle won the race and I finished next 0.2 behind him. So, on paper, it seems like a good run.
For the most part it was, I didn't find any sand, learned some of the lines, and started running hi 2:12s. The problem was Brindle was just toying with the field at that point. In the previous race, the fast lap had been knocked down to 2:11.1 or 2:11.3. Brindle got the lead early and just ran hard enough to stay there. He never really tried to make a run for it. Over the 7 laps, I ran all high 12s and low 13s and was roughly a full second or so behind him the whole time so I knew he wasn't pushing to hard. On the last turn, he went a little ugly and I made it close at the end.
After the race, there were kudos for staying close to Brindle, but I knew better. I thanked the guys and went downstairs to grab a beer and reminisce about the days when guys actually had to try to beat me.
I've been racing weekly for the past month and a half in Sandwichlord's series. It's been fun. I don't much like the car, but I've had the opportunity to be on the track with some crazy talent. Spec is my teammate for the first half of the series, and then Sandwichlord will be my teammate during the second half. Spec has really helped me out with tuning and Sandwichlord has helped me out with not only tuning, but with which lines to take on the various tracks. I'm doing about as well as can be expected given the level of freaks in the field. However, it's summer and my 8-year old likes to do shit outside til dark and it doesn't leave much time for lounging in the Obutto.
I miss running lap after lap after lap with some of you guys, but I can't commit as much time as I used to and now there's a faster crop of fish in the seas. Maybe during the colder months I can get back on the track and give some of you young whippersnappers a run, but right now I'm not able to compete with a good portion of you.
All I can say is kudos to you. I remember when some of you couldn't even stay on the track for more than a lap at a time. It's really impressive to see how good some of you have become.
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I remember when some of you couldn't even stay on the track for more than a lap at a time. It's really impressive to see how good some of you have become.
I still have this problem :(
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These memories or perceptions can really stick in a person's head. Two people that stand out are you Rick and Infinituna. I couldn't think of challenging you two in Prologue. I feel that I've improved, but only slightly, so I just expect you to be faster than me. I'm sure you have it in you, but I guess it takes time and practice to keep up with the 'new' game.
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A couple notes...I'm very comfortable at DRC. Early on, I was scared of the bus stop like most other people but I eventually ran the track enough to where I realized it was an opportunity to pick up time on everyone who was still scared of the place. Liking the track has a lot to do and I have confidence there, so I run better there than at just about every place else.
I know exactly what you mean about DRC. I only got good at this track because I was privilaged enough to see some really great drivers run it and learn some stuff.
Some of you know the Brittish crew that runs a version of Sucka Free Sundays still. Pudds, Demise_Bennett, and GTP_Ghostdriver were in a room once running vipers vs DB9s on DRC and I was wise enough to save some replays of that.
I believe MastrGT was in there for a while too. . We though that 2:00 laps were good, then the best of them st arting turning out 1:52s...
Then I got involved in an ACR Viper series over at PSN called "SCREAM" and the first race of 2011 and 2012 were both at DRC.
I studied the replays and found lots of time.
Won both of those. Now, the other tracks, are more of an issue, where those like Woldpack and Psychofreak are on average a little faster than me per lap.
Working on Indy RC this week to hopefully give them an upset ;)
Still holding points lead in teh series mostly because Dawson/Wolfpacks2k was absent for the first race.
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I remember when some of you couldn't even stay on the track for more than a lap at a time. It's really impressive to see how good some of you have become.
I remember when Rick sucked. When I first started time trials over at the deathstar, I ranged from lower mediocre to upper mediocre. When TPRA races started I was usually in group 2 and on at least a couple of days took a clean sweep of the group 2 races (so upper mediocre). My prologue GTP time was firmly lower mediocre (div 3 bronze). That put me firmly near the top of the group here at the time. Between that and GT5 I didn't get much seat time in and fell back as others here sped up and Rick became elite. Actually Rick became elite rather quickly while I was still mediocre. GT5 came around and I put some seat time in and got myself back up to mid mediocre (div 3 silver at GTP) and could run with the fast guys here at times and even sometimes win races convincingly (e.g. the first GT300 series Nurburgring race). I've fallen a lot since then and often spend the midnight drive in hotlapping by myself near the back. I wanted to use GT Academy as a way to relearn how to drive so I put some effort into 8-5. I'm absolutely ecstatic about my time because it showed that if I put the effort in, I could get a time that was not only as fast as what I've done before but even faster. GTP classified it as a Division 2 time. Does that make my time fast for here? No, Wizard's time was clearly in a class ahead of mine and I'm sure if others put an effort in their times would be as well. I'm not bragging about having a great time. I bragging about having a great time for me. For me, GTA was all about improving my skills and proving to myself that I could still be at the upper end of mediocre.
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These memories or perceptions can really stick in a person's head. Two people that stand out are you Rick and Infinituna. I couldn't think of challenging you two in Prologue. I feel that I've improved, but only slightly, so I just expect you to be faster than me. I'm sure you have it in you, but I guess it takes time and practice to keep up with the 'new' game.
Back in Prologue, a couple things were different (at least for me). First, with no tire wear, I learned some bad habits that simply don't work in GT5. It's hard to change something you spent 5 years 'perfecting.' The other thing is that I was fortunate enough to race EVERY night back in the day. I've never been a guy like Hey who can go to the garage, buy a new car, and be fast as soon as I got to the track. Any time I was fast in Prologue it was because I'd spent hours working on a good tune and/or getting familiar with the track (in Prologue, learning the tracks was much easier because there were only 6 tracks).
GT5 has been a bitter pill because I remember being faster than certain people, and now I'm simply not. It's not much fun for me to do poorly almost every time out, and since the Tunas jump from pond to pond frequently, it leads to bad results for me (remember, I like to get familiar with a track) and that only encourages me to have a beer earlier in the evening than I'd planned.
Regardless of all that, it's been good to see some of the fish improve so much over the years. I wish some of you would slow down from time to time, but it makes me proud that some in the water have progressed so far.
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I remember when some of you couldn't even stay on the track for more than a lap at a time. It's really impressive to see how good some of you have become.
I remember when Rick sucked. When I first started time trials over at the deathstar, I ranged from lower mediocre to upper mediocre. When TPRA races started I was usually in group 2 and on at least a couple of days took a clean sweep of the group 2 races (so upper mediocre). My prologue GTP time was firmly lower mediocre (div 3 bronze). That put me firmly near the top of the group here at the time. Between that and GT5 I didn't get much seat time in and fell back as others here sped up and Rick became elite. Actually Rick became elite rather quickly while I was still mediocre. GT5 came around and I put some seat time in and got myself back up to mid mediocre (div 3 silver at GTP) and could run with the fast guys here at times and even sometimes win races convincingly (e.g. the first GT300 series Nurburgring race). I've fallen a lot since then and often spend the midnight drive in hotlapping by myself near the back. I wanted to use GT Academy as a way to relearn how to drive so I put some effort into 8-5. I'm absolutely ecstatic about my time because it showed that if I put the effort in, I could get a time that was not only as fast as what I've done before but even faster. GTP classified it as a Division 2 time. Does that make my time fast for here? No, Wizard's time was clearly in a class ahead of mine and I'm sure if others put an effort in their times would be as well. I'm not bragging about having a great time. I bragging about having a great time for me. For me, GTA was all about improving my skills and proving to myself that I could still be at the upper end of mediocre.
Pride is what changed for me. Before the 4-letter was the 4-letter, it was the Tuners' Pit. Those guys ran one car a week at six configurations of the tracks in Prologue. I'd run a half dozen laps, be happy with my time and turn it in. Then I'd find that guys like RMK, MSGT, Gar, FatLeadFoot and Jimmy were like 8 seconds a lap faster than me. Eventually, I started putting in a LOT of seat time. I started watching replays of the fast guys and making notes of what they did. Basically, I practiced. Eventually, I was challenging the fast guys.
I haven't had the desire with the new game. It didn't, and hasn't, come easy because I'm actually having fun doing other things and am not putting in the appropriate amount of practice. I've become the person I used to be annoyed by-->I want to be better, I just don't want to put in the time. And because of it, I'm very average at the time. I can always find an excuse why I suck--I don't like the car, I don't like the track (though I've never blamed the LSD, ABS, or anything like that :laugh ), but the bottom line is most of you guys have better skills. I'm not happy for me that I suck, but I'm happy that you guys have gotten so good.
Gar and Spec have really worked hard trying to make me better, but they might be fighting a losing battle. :D
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Then I got involved in an ACR Viper series over at PSN called "SCREAM" and the first race of 2011 and 2012 were both at DRC.
I studied the replays and found lots of time.
Won both of those. Now, the other tracks, are more of an issue, where those like Woldpack and Psychofreak are on average a little faster than me per lap.
Working on Indy RC this week to hopefully give them an upset ;)
Still holding points lead in teh series mostly because Dawson/Wolfpacks2k was absent for the first race.
Hey hey, I've got a new Tuna name! ;D
Its tough to come back from missing a race given the points structure of this series, but I really love the competitiveness 8) Don't plan on practicing for the IRC race till after Ronin's Friday night Nurburgring GP/F enduro though, hehe :)
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For me, GTA was all about improving my skills and proving to myself that I could still be at the upper end of mediocre.
yea me too... though I like to say i'm "on the slow side of fast"
or is it the "fast side of slow"?
I can't remember... but something's "slow", that's for sure!
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Its tough to come back from missing a race given the points structure of this series, but I really love the competitiveness 8) Don't plan on practicing for the IRC race till after Ronin's Friday night Nurburgring GP/F enduro though, hehe :)
I think dawson/wol(f)pack just suggested that Ronin should reschedule the enduro for 7/8 @ 3am... hehe
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To be honest I'm tired of hearing how "slow" you guys are. You're not. It is ok to be better than average. When you're running by yourself in back, then talk to me. ;) (Many of you know who you could run into back there :angel: ) I don't have a problem with my speed because I am unable to put in the seat time like many of you and I am fine with that. Enjoy your time up front, you
probably deserve to be there.
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To be honest I'm tired of hearing how "slow" you guys are. You're not. It is ok to be better than average. When you're running by yourself in back, then talk to me. ;) (Many of you know who you could run into back there :angel: ) I don't have a problem with my speed because I am unable to put in the seat time like many of you and I am fine with that. Enjoy your time up front, you probably deserve to be there.
"Fast" and/or "slow" are relative terms. If I'm racing with guys who suck, sure, I'll appear fast, but put me on the track with Spec and Gar like last night, and embarrassment follows. Gar hasn't always been from another planet (in the early days of running with some of the founding members of the Tuners' Pit, he was merely average...of course, I think he was 13 at the time), but since most of you have been running with him, his talent speaks for itself. I recall the first time I had to change my drawers after racing with Gar. Obviously, I knew he was extremely skilled, but at the time, I thought I was pretty good too. He came up behind me at Fuji. We were approaching 100R and I knew he wanted the pass, but I was going to make him work for it. I took the inside line heading into the right sweeper. I knew I could hold my line and I knew he wouldn't be able to pass me on the outside.
I was wrong. Not only did he hold his line, he passed me in the damned turn. After the race I excused myself so I could change my shorts and that's when I realized I wasn't worthy.
Spec has always been fast, but I don't think he reached Alienness until he crossed the lake last year. He has a quiet competitive fire and from what I can see I have a better chance of beating him in a race if he's in front of me than if he's chasing me. I think he's one of those guys who hates to lose more than he likes to win so he's better coming from behind.
So, I'm racing with these two guys last night and I'm running 32.7s at Laguna Seca in the Mini. Gar's event is tonight so when he joined my lounge I ask what times he's seeing. He mentions low 31s and that 30s are possible. WTF?
Immediately Gar throws out a 31.3. Eventually Spec shows up and these guys start going crazy low while I'm now putting up 34s and 35s. Back to one of my points, Gar is a given. But Spec spends most of his time with iRacing, he hates the car we're in and doesn't like the track and yet, eventually both he and Gar are running high 30s and I hear Gar say, there's definitely a 30.5 out there. Again, WTF?
Towards the end of the night they're both tired of running good times and listening to me use profanity in the background. Then both of them go into watch mode. I can feel 4 eyes watching every wrong move I make. I'm two seconds off the pace, pissed off at the car and track, and I've got 2 sets of eyes from Silverstone watching every late brake, every missed apex, and every poor exit. No pressure. :o
Spec is my teammate during the first half of Gar's season and he's almost quiet because he realizes I'm beyond hope and he has no shot at a team title. Gar is watching me blow corner after corner and trying to help my steering inputs. We're all in agreement I've got issues because I mentioned during some earlier laps while following Spec that when comes out of each turn there isn't as much as a puff of smoke coming from the tires while it looks like the 4th of freaking July when I drop the hammer.
It's noted that I continually brake too late. To make up for it, I then grab the throttle too early. As I'm dropping my right foot, my front wheels are still turned because I'm carrying too much speed through the turns and I'm just lighting up the tires. In addition to braking too late and getting on the gas too early, I take poor lines around the track.
Spec finally gives up and heads off to bed. Before his headset disconnects, I'm can pick up him saying, "Holy shit, he's fucked tomorrow night." Gar and I spend a few laps running no more than normal driving speed as I follow him around the preferred lines of the track. He spends 90% of the lap showing me what to do, and the remaining 10% showing me what I've been doing, or as he puts it, what not to do.
After a couple laps of slow speed driving, I've learned that I don't brake at the proper time, I don't accelerate at the proper time, and I'm nowhere near the preferred line around the track. My lesson is complete (Gar thinks he's not a good instructor, but he really is. I feel sorry for Spec and Gar because they're stuck dealing with a 43-year old dog who may not be able to learn new tricks), now the rest is up to me. I thank Gar for his patience and we exit the room, not before Gar is overhead talking to himself, "Christ, I'm stuck with him for the second half of the season? Maybe I'll just cancel the series."
So Looney, "fast" and/or "slow" are relative terms.
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Fast/slow does it really matter :-\ Really I think some are looking way to far into this game. Pride? it's a game! And is Forgetful writing these long ass post? Go out and have fun guys. Last night was a good example of a good time. Run against the clock. Everyone good friends and no one caring how fast the other guy really is. I play by them rules every time I am on. Thank you all for the goos times :) "game" not real. "game" or the couple lines I did read I miss read :-\ Was lot's of lines :lolz
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It sounds as if you are being unnecessarily hard on yourself, Rick.
Ever since the GT3 time trial days, I knew I'd never be as fast as most of the drivers that I raced with. Big or small group, I ended up in the middle, sometimes at the back, rarely at the front.
I don't get anywhere near as much seat time as I used to or as much as many of you get, so I struggle more and make more mistakes, but I figger if Richard Petty can put on a good show for decades after his prime, most of us can, too.
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Rick, you had an off night. Also, how can you compare yourself with 2 of the top 20 out of how many? 100,000? It's just a game for us. ;)
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To be fair to Rick it is relative. He might have slowed a bit but seat time both his and his competitors is the culprit. Many Tuna have improved from a relaxed fun atmosphere that encouraged more seat time. And many guys have gotten better, the modesty is cool but we can look around and know there is some decent talent when you attend even casual unannounced events. I think we walk a nice balance between guys that are somewhat casual but can throw down better than the average duffer.
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^ This.
I wish we had a "like" button here.
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^ This.
I wish we had a "like" button here.
We do Spec. :stoopid:
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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I received a Leaf last night.
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Really, how?
Also, is there a "like" button here?
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Really, how?
Also, is there a "like" button here?
Exalt right under a users name is as close as it gets to a like button.
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My Leaf was sitting in the gift receptacle today, seems like the Academy cars are starting to trickle in like an aged hound with inconsistent incontinence :).
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My Leaf was sitting in the gift receptacle today, seems like the Academy cars are starting to trickle in like an aged hound with inconsistent incontinence :).
Well at least i'm not the only one who is shocked by only only one of EIGHT cars in his gift thingy. *phew*
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My Leaf was sitting in the gift receptacle today, seems like the Academy cars are starting to trickle in like an aged hound with inconsistent incontinence :).
So I actually have to manually move it to the circular file (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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Guess I will have to check and see if my Leaf has fallen off the tree yet! (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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Really, how?
Also, is there a "like" button here?
Exalt right under a users name is as close as it gets to a like button.
Not exactly...
There's:
:stoopid:
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(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/TunaThumbsUp.jpg)
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They all pretty much fit the bill... (check out WIDGETs in Tuna School for how to make them pop up if you don't already know...)
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it seems we all have a leaf fallen off the tree but what about the rest of the cars from gt academy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, WHER IS OUR CARS THAT WE WON PD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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They will deliver weekly... (like the Academy was setup. week1, week2, week3, etc...)
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Probably should have posted it here instead of the other thread..
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/Feldynn/GT-APrizeList.jpg)
.. we get one per week.
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Probably should have posted it here instead of the other thread..
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/Feldynn/GT-APrizeList.jpg)
.. we get one per week.
sorry guys its just ive had a really eventful week and weeekend over the past 2 weeks and im forgetting things as ive had alot going on and have had much controller time on gt5
FIXED
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Probably should have posted it here instead of the other thread..
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk57/Feldynn/GT-APrizeList.jpg)
.. we get one per week.
sorry guys its just ive had a really eventful weeke and weeend over the past 2 weeks and im forgetting things as ive had alot going on and have had much controller time on gt5 but im getting back on gt5
:-\ ???
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geisio cyfieithu Google. :D
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Yeah, but I'm thinking that it wasn't translatable, (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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wow... 1 car a week and the worst one first.
guess they are trying to keep us playing longer by spreading it out over weeks, but they have no fucking clue what draws us to their game anymore.
it ain't freebies, it's a game that actually WORKS the way we need it to.
PD stop spending your time on useless crap and improve lobby controls and replay controls and give us the ability to easily make videos out of our replays.
we could sell the game for you if you'd only let us.
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wow... 1 car a week and the worst one first.
guess they are trying to keep us playing longer by spreading it out over weeks, but they have no fucking clue what draws us to their game anymore.
it ain't freebies, it's a game that actually WORKS the way we need it to.
PD stop spending your time on useless crap and improve lobby controls and replay controls and give us the ability to easily make videos out of our replays.
we could sell the game for you if you'd only let us.
Hear hear.
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I have deleted the leaf from my garage. 3 times now it just keeps coming back
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the abilty to make and share videos would be sweet it would make the 20-30 gigs of replays i have useful(since its the only motorsports i watch since nextel took over winston cup :( ). PS awsome times posted at GT academy this year glad to see eveeryone that posted posted strong times even if they werent strong enough for finals.
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I have deleted the leaf from my garage. 3 times now it just keeps coming back
Maybe your Leaf fell off a Boomerang Tree, Baked? ;D
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I have deleted the leaf from my garage. 3 times now it just keeps coming back
if the root survives, it will return. it's a perennial... ;)
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sorry guys its just ive had a really eventful weeke and weeend over the past 2 weeks and im forgetting things as ive had alot going on and have had much controller time on gt5 but im getting back on gt5
:-\ ???
What he means is that he traveled to cottage country, in Ontario, and met with a bunch of other drivers mostly from another forum, most of which you should recognise, some of which I have never met before.
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sorry guys its just ive had a really eventful weeke and weeend over the past 2 weeks and im forgetting things as ive had alot going on and have had much controller time on gt5 but im getting back on gt5
:-\ ???
What he means is that he traveled to cottage country, in Ontario, and met with a bunch of other drivers mostly from another forum, most of which you should recognise, some of which I have never met before.
Ah...I take it, it was one of those "if you remember it, you weren't really there" weekends then.
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Well, I was my own designated driver, so I have no problem remembering the weekend. ^-^
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Well, I was my own designated driver, so I have no problem remembering the weekend. ^-^
How was it?
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For me, it was a bit rushed because I was doing three things over the weekend, drive up north to the meet, on Saturday, boot over to my brother's place, an hour and a half away, so that I could get some Rip Van Winkle, then go to another meeting with a straw bale home designer, Sunday afternoon. The gathering set the main schedule, though.
As far as the GT player's meet went, it was good to see people who I have either raced with or to meet new players who may have known of me. These are the sort of people who I can fit right in with, so anyone would have felt at home right away. nuTTTz had fixed my original PS3, so I had met when he lived in Toronto, but KARTRACER96 and Josh I hadn't met face-to-face before, but I knew of them or had race with KART before, etc., The others I hadn't met before.
Lots of good food and great weather made for good times, of course.
nuTTTz got out his wheel after supper, but by quarter to nine, I had to run, unfortunately.
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It looked like a great time, it's always very cool to meet the people you race with. Fortunately I've had the opportunity to meet many of our colleagues, plus make many new friends along the way.
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A new issue seems to happen around the GT Academy gift cars that means we need to be careful.
After receiving an Academy car, before you do anything else, make a new back-up copy of your progress file and keep it safe. The new problem is that, if your game freezes and you don't have a way to recover because of a broken game save, there doesn't seem to be a way to recover the lost Academy car, either.
This issue has been reported, but I may not be told a different solution, so protect your saves now.
If anyone finds a solution to the missing cars, please let us know.
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Thanks for the heads up MGT. I personally back up my game save after every session, because I'm that paranoid. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Also, because I'm so funny about how my garage is arranged, I'm leaving the GTA car tickets in the hauler until I get them all, so they will be together in the garage. ^-^
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Live stream today at the planet.
(starts in about 15 minutes) Delayed one hour
http://www.gtplanet.net/gt-academy-2012-u-s-national-finals-live-stream-day-12/ (http://www.gtplanet.net/gt-academy-2012-u-s-national-finals-live-stream-day-12/)
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From what I've seen so far GT Academy National Finals Season 2 > Season 1 as far as coverage.
We got jipped; but I guess they were getting their feet wet last year with us.
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From facebook, the brief but funny conversation next to a picture of Maryeve Dufault interviewing Bryan Heitkotter
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee453/ac427dc/GT5/ScreenHunter_03.jpg?t=1342291805)
I found it amusing anyway. I don't think "Jacob Gregory" thought he'd get a direct reply.
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That chick looks hot from the picture, just sayin. Hopefully Bryan checked her oil.
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That chick looks hot from the picture, just sayin. Hopefully Bryan checked her oil.
well without an engine mount it's definitely loose
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This warrants being repeated.
If you value your Academy gift content, make a back-up of your game save each and every time you get another non-replaceable gift. People seem to have found a variety of ways to break GT5 and lose these cars, so please bear this in mind when getting new gifts.
AFAIK, there is currently no way to replace a lost car, unless PD does something about it.
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This warrants being repeated.
If you value your Academy gift content, make a back-up of your game save each and every time you get another non-replaceable gift. People seem to have found a variety of ways to break GT5 and lose these cars, so please bear this in mind when getting new gifts.
AFAIK, there is currently no way to replace a lost car, unless PD does something about it.
10-4. Thanks for the heads up MGT.
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Congratulations Steve Doherty (http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d6721.html) US GT Academy 2012 winner!
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Getting excited for this years Academy! Am I the only one?
Can't wait to try out the new physics. I hope it's set up like last years. I had a blast with it last year with all the little challenges.
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I'm excited and I do want to experience the new physics. I never feel like spending that much time on it though. I would rather be on track with all of you.
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At least this one won't be dragged out over two months, like it was last year.
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At least this one won't be dragged out over two months, like it was last year.
Hmmm.. that's what I liked about last years. The longer the better in my opinion.
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At least this one won't be dragged out over two months, like it was last year.
Hmmm.. that's what I liked about last years. The longer the better in my opinion.
That's what she said.
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At least this one won't be dragged out over two months, like it was last year.
Hmmm.. that's what I liked about last years. The longer the better in my opinion.
That's what she said.
(http://i.imgur.com/3nTTCQs.jpg)
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At least this one won't be dragged out over two months, like it was last year.
Hmmm.. that's what I liked about last years. The longer the better in my opinion.
That's what she said.
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/GPrimshot.jpg)
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Hmmm......I wonder if our Canadian Friends will be able to join in the fun n' game?
Have they gotten all of those archaic little pesky laws out of the way to "clear the road" (sic) for their participation in the competition?
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I'm excited and I do want to experience the new physics. .... I would rather be on track with all of you.
:stoopid:
I like time trials sometimes, but I want to race people on track.
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Canada certainly isn't listed as a country that can participate, and everything discussed at the mothership seems to indicate they are not allowed in, AGAIN.
I feel for all of my canadian friends for not officially being able to compete... though, they may still let you run the events and not have times on the leaderboards...
but yea I am getting excited for two reasons, to try and see how high I can place (no chance of top 32, but would like to surprise myself by getting closer) and because of it being a GT6 demo.
Between Tour de France and GT6 demo/academy, I'm not sure I'll be spending my time like a responsible adult should ;)
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Canada certainly isn't listed as a country that can participate, and everything discussed at the mothership seems to indicate they are not allowed in, AGAIN.
I feel for all of my canadian friends for not officially being able to compete... though, they may still let you run the events and not have times on the leaderboards...
but yea I am getting excited for two reasons, to try and see how high I can place (no chance of top 32, but would like to surprise myself by getting closer) and because of it being a GT6 demo.
Between Tour de France and GT6 demo/academy, I'm not sure I'll be spending my time like a responsible adult should ;)
DVR the Tour de France when it is live in the morning. Then by using FF you can see the 30 minutes of cycling shown in the 4 hours of coverage. :)
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LOL actually I like seeing most of the complete broadcasts because there is a lot of analysis and information about strategy etc. that you might miss... tidbits of info on the area being traversed, random accidents that happen for no apparent reason... all sorts of stuff.
and sadly I don't have the channel it comes on in the U.S. NBC Sports, nor a DVR so I'd be screwed.
But the last few years there has been a way to purchase a streaming service for the month for like $30 and see all stages live or replayed at your choosing. I cannot for the life of me figure out if this service exists again this year. Legally, that is ;)
Back on topic... yea I may have to put my two TV's side by side do Academy and TDF at the same time.
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Getting excited for this years Academy! Am I the only one?
Can't wait to try out the new physics. I hope it's set up like last years. I had a blast with it last year with all the little challenges.
I had a lot of fun with the last academy and it will be nice to try out the new physics. I really hope that GT6 has leaderboards for the license tests (and other things) that was a great idea. But I won't have much time to work on it this time.
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I really hope that GT6 has leaderboards for the license tests (and other things) that was a great idea.
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I, too, am excited for this :D
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my first week or so of GT Academy will be really nice, because my wife and baby will be out of town visiting some of her family :D :D :D
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It's probably the last week of the Academy that they need to go to the beach.
:-* Bye, sweetie. Have fun!
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yeah no kidding!
currently I am working on taking tenths off of my diaper changing time!
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LOL actually I like seeing most of the complete broadcasts because there is a lot of analysis and information about strategy etc. that you might miss... tidbits of info on the area being traversed, random accidents that happen for no apparent reason... all sorts of stuff.
and sadly I don't have the channel it comes on in the U.S. NBC Sports, nor a DVR so I'd be screwed.
But the last few years there has been a way to purchase a streaming service for the month for like $30 and see all stages live or replayed at your choosing. I cannot for the life of me figure out if this service exists again this year. Legally, that is ;)
Back on topic... yea I may have to put my two TV's side by side do Academy and TDF at the same time.
No offense Ex, but I used to ride my 3 speed English made bike up 'till I was fourteen. After that I learned to drive a car (it was much easier on my legs). Never looked back. While I applaud the efforts of those who like to do endurance biking, I just can't get into the pain of it all. As with any sport, there are strategies. I like to think that my best strategy was to put the bike away a looong time ago, (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif).
However, I can't wait to see the GT Academy challenge this year and run at Silverstone GP track. We will all have that chance in LESS than a WEEK!!
(http://i.imgur.com/i9lTnm7.jpg)
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(http://cs538615.vk.me/u175219603/doc/dcad4d0f25b0/FerinoDesignGT6DemoGif2.gif)
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yesssssssssssssssssssssss ^-^
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(http://cs538615.vk.me/u175219603/doc/dcad4d0f25b0/FerinoDesignGT6DemoGif2.gif)
Ahh the off road / corner cutting penalties need a little work again this year I see ;D.
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Also found this on the GTP Academy Demo thread:
(http://cs538102.vk.me/u175219603/doc/3186d5d3a9c8/FerinoDesignGT6DemoGif3.gif)
If you look carefully you can see what appear to be leaves falling from the tree in the center at the back, assuming you aren't distracted by the Leafs going by which do actually look quite impressive :).
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FYI, they're now saying it'll be available in the US around 8pm eastern. :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
That's 7pm CST!!! Means I get it one hour earlier than everyone on the east coast.
Just kidding, just a little time zone humor.
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Those gifs look great.
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Found this just now too, reminds me of that Forza Vs. GT5 AI Comparison video where GT5's AI went around the blockage and Forza's just hit it :)..
The highly advanced AI of Gran Turismo 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qgsdb5wYMw8#ws)
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Also found this on the GTP Academy Demo thread:
(http://cs538102.vk.me/u175219603/doc/3186d5d3a9c8/FerinoDesignGT6DemoGif3.gif)
If you look carefully you can see what appear to be leaves falling from the tree in the center at the back, assuming you aren't distracted by the Leafs going by which do actually look quite impressive :).
also of note (to me) is the white car (AI) holds his line fairly well against the other car (user)
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And here's another one..
(http://abload.de/img/gt6sl1dbsm3.gif)
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Looks like you can create a UK account, download the demo, then login to your main account and start playing.
Can't wait to get home now! :)
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Man, that is awesome. Look at how the rear of the car is lightened under braking and how the front right corner suspension is compressed. Impressive. Did the driver not have a face yet?
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http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2013/rankings/ (http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2013/rankings/)
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Just a quick reminder... If you have an alternate acct. that is registered in another country, ex. England, you can DL this now and yes, it's exactly what I'm doing. I might have to DL the US version later on for Academy purposes, but I'll get a little taste of it a bit early. :)
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A comment from one of last years finalists.
http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8625254#post8625254 (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8625254#post8625254)
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Man, that is awesome. Look at how the rear of the car is lightened under braking and how the front right corner suspension is compressed. Impressive. Did the driver not have a face yet?
He does, it looks like it's an open face helmet and the driver's wearing one of those white fireproof ski mask hood things on though so it's hard to see clearly. If you look closely you can just make out a pair of eyes in there :).
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Downloading now. :)
1 GB download and it's going sloooooooooow. :bummer
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Man, that is awesome. Look at how the rear of the car is lightened under braking and how the front right corner suspension is compressed. Impressive. Did the driver not have a face yet?
He does, it looks like it's an open face helmet and the driver's wearing one of those white fireproof ski mask hood things on though so it's hard to see clearly. If you look closely you can just make out a pair of eyes in there :).
Baklava
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So I would be really interested in trading track notes with anybody willing to do the same. I was watching one of the videos posted in that thread:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5kcM4FLgs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5kcM4FLgs)
And noticed that on one particular corner, the driver was really trying hard to late apex. If you have any track notes you are willing to share with your fellow Tuna to help us all go a little faster, I promise to ding the Karma button a few hundred times for you. :)
Meanwhile, I will try to share what little knowledge I have as well.
MX
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Thanks for heads up on regional trickiness, downloaded, installing now.
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Man, that is awesome. Look at how the rear of the car is lightened under braking and how the front right corner suspension is compressed. Impressive. Did the driver not have a face yet?
He does, it looks like it's an open face helmet and the driver's wearing one of those white fireproof ski mask hood things on though so it's hard to see clearly. If you look closely you can just make out a pair of eyes in there :).
Baklava
Mmmmm baklava. Yummy
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Man, that is awesome. Look at how the rear of the car is lightened under braking and how the front right corner suspension is compressed. Impressive. Did the driver not have a face yet?
He does, it looks like it's an open face helmet and the driver's wearing one of those white fireproof ski mask hood things on though so it's hard to see clearly. If you look closely you can just make out a pair of eyes in there :).
Baklava
Baklava:
(http://dovla.net/images/2011/05/baklave.jpg)
Balaclava:
(http://www.burnoutitaly.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/image/450x450/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/b/a/balaclava-one.jpg)
I'll take one of each please :D.
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This is more of a visual thing... but when cornering, the scenery alters bit shifting the way the car is swaying. When you see the car leaning, so does the background. It's pretty cool.
BTW... You get one lap around Silverstone when you first start, then you buy a car, which is a Leaf, then off to Autumn Mini and Suzuka East. You start will 100,000 credits and the Leaf will cost you 45,000 of that, plus for the races you win, you'll get 8,000 cr. Anyway, back to it. ;D
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US has rankings up now.
http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2013/rankings/ (http://www.gran-turismo.com/us/academy/2013/rankings/)
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OK... Next up, you buy the 370Z (GT Academy) '08 and run it on Grand Valley East and Autumn Ring. 10,000cr for a win.
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I'm so glad Amazon is sending me a million dollars with my GT6 purchase.
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnwfaQz_5cp3h4xKL6gIQr5GZ0nIzduzwKzo-LteJamP5JAugJ)
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I really wish that:
1) I wasn't still at work
2) I wasn't going to the gym after work
3) I wasn't have dinner company over tonight
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US ranking ups eh? That mean can officially download from US store, or these people downloading as smelly europeans and then returning to their US profiles?
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402 in the world. Damn I'm good :laugh
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Demo now available in the US.
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Lets get it on.
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Demo now available in the US.
Hey Wiz, I'm at the US store now and I don't see it. Do they have it tucked away in a corner somewhere? :-\ When I Dl'ed it from my Brit account it was front and center. The only thing I see is the 2012 version, why that is still there is a mystery to me. ^-^
Edit: I always thought the US store updated around 6ish Eastern Time.
Edit PS: @Charlie... The site seems to be a bit sluggish, load times for pages are pretty slow for me. My end or yours? BTW... Hi ;)
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I actually saw that tidbit of info posted elsewhere. I haven't checked yet myself.
Sorry if that info is not accurate.
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First impressions. Physics are improved though instability while gear changing during breaking is absent. This may be a "console" thing or may just be the magic ABS. I'll have to try it with it off. Overall it looks better. I think that they blurred the trees a little maybe to make them look less like 2D cutouts. Cockpit view has performance issues.
Now the 402 ranking really surprised me. I had 15xxx on the first event and 7-8xxx on the following events. I didn't have a particularly brilliant run to get 402 so I'm not sure what happened there. I didn't even do that well on the bonus events that open up (only silver) so it's not like I was just one of the first to do a lap.
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I'll cherish a top 10 (USA) while I can... :D
(http://i.imgur.com/qRSELGl.jpg)
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First impressions. Physics are improved though instability while gear changing during breaking is absent.
Downshifting is just another form of braking. Are you straight line (threshold) braking, or trail braking? Typically in a real car I've got the clutch in while braking so the shifting doesn't impact the stability of the car. Longitudinal G's is what matters. Shifting is then more about rev-matching and being in the right gear when you eventually engage the drive shaft again. But if we're talking about engine braking (clutch out) and foot braking at the same time, the same rules of grip apply. You simply combine the forces and if they exceed the traction limits you slide.
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I'll cherish a top 10 (USA) while I can... :D
(http://i.imgur.com/qRSELGl.jpg)
SWEET. Frame it. :)
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It is definitely up in the NA store now, just navigating that piece of shit Store to find anything these days is a giant kick in the plums. Search "GT Academy" and it should pop up with the entry, took me forever to actually find the SPACE feature after typing the GT though because you have to go up a few characters to find it (apparently it assumes GT should be followed by A or some other letters / numbers and not a space, so it shoves it off out of the way).
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First impressions. Physics are improved though instability while gear changing during breaking is absent.
Downshifting is just another form of braking. Are you straight line (threshold) braking, or trail braking? Typically in a real car I've got the clutch in while braking so the shifting doesn't impact the stability of the car. Longitudinal G's is what matters. Shifting is then more about rev-matching and being in the right gear when you eventually engage the drive shaft again. But if we're talking about engine braking (clutch out) and foot braking at the same time, the same rules of grip apply. You simply combine the forces and if they exceed the traction limits you slide.
In GT, you can downshift immediately to first with no issues whatsoever. Do that in a real car, you will lock your wheels, probably put the car into a spin, and likely destroy your transmission. You can't rev match when rev-matching would put your engine over the rev-limiter.
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I was gonna skip GTA this year ... with all the talk, maybe I'll check it out. :)
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Ok, now I get it. I think that I was 402 in my "country" but since Canada doesn't exist, I was 402 in "other" or all the countries not participating. This is actually worse than last time. Last academy, even though we weren't included, we could at least sort by our country. I got my ridiculously high ranking (top 40?) since no one else in Canada bothered to try. Sony and PD found a way to even screw us more this time.
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In GT, you can downshift immediately to first with no issues whatsoever. Do that in a real car, you will lock your wheels, probably put the car into a spin, and likely destroy your transmission. You can't rev match when rev-matching would put your engine over the rev-limiter.
Yeah, wish they would fix that. Since they don't really try to simulate a clutch all that much (haven't tried it yet on a G27), I always assumed it behaved kind of like iRacing's "auto-clutch" where the game did the rev matching for you. Didn't realize that you could go from 6th to 1st no problem. I'm usually using paddle shifters in GT5. And each shift seems to do the rev matching thing. But I guess if you did it fast enough, you would see the behavior you are talking about.
Can't believe we're on v.6 of this stuff and a clutch isn't assumed and fully supported / simulated. Drop it down into 1st like that, your engine should explode.
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It is definitely up in the NA store now, just navigating that piece of shit Store to find anything these days is a giant kick in the plums. Search "GT Academy" and it should pop up with the entry, took me forever to actually find the SPACE feature after typing the GT though because you have to go up a few characters to find it (apparently it assumes GT should be followed by A or some other letters / numbers and not a space, so it shoves it off out of the way).
I was just home for lunch and failed to find it in the store. I could not find where to type in GT Academy. I only found a search of the letter G.
POS Playstation Store!
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So after watching several G5 vs GT6 videos that have now been posted ... it looks pretty similar. I see more roll in the car. But other than that?
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If anyone wants to drop by my place in London, I'm now at 154 Picadilly.
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Does Kaz lurk here?
(http://i.imgur.com/qJMjCme.jpg)
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mygranturismo.net leaderboards: http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=7 (http://www.mygranturismo.net/rankings.php?sec=7)
Looks like I'm 11nd in Canada and dropping.
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(http://spiritlink.com/gold-number-8.jpg)(http://www.theartoftakingaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/gold-number-3.jpg)(http://canadianawareness.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/happytooth.jpg)
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Ran the litlle prelimnary races and did the first test :35.016 will wait til things are a bit more calm around here before trying the others. Just too much with the dogs and kids running around to hve any focus.
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Does anyone know my password? Fucking game won't let me log in.
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Is it me or do the cars rotate a lot easier? Makes it pretty easy to trail brake into corners, but harder to control throttle oversteer on track out. Oh, and for the driving line aficionados, how about that braking line? It moves as you are braking. Found that really interesting. I was generally able to out-brake the braking line, which shows that it's very conservative.
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Letter to the bank manager - The Young Ones - BBC comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANquX0YHFhw#)
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Boom Shankar!
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I like it.
Initial turn in does seem better, other than that, it does really feel much different.
The amount of body roll reminds me of GTA 4.
I wasn't diggin' Silverstone too much at 1rd, but I'm starting to get in to it. The 1rd section is a time eater for me though.
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All this tilting is making me feel the ( I did do a lot of (and by a lot, I mean many) shots). I really can feel the weight shift though. The lighting wily looking quite good does make me think what something simpler might look like too.
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Holy fuckballs Ti-Tech is already at 2:17.5xx. :o
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I ended up downloading the demo this afternoon but didn't get around to playing with it until late this evening, here's my first impressions for anyone that's interested :). Urgh it turned out longer than I expected so for anyone that doesn't like many words: "I like it, some minor things I don't like so much but generally it's pretty good!"
Menus and UI
Generally speaking I like it all, mostly the menus seem to flow together pretty well and the HUD while driving seems much crisper than in GT5. I really like the new look of all the race / event menu stuff but, while it's still crisp and clean I really don't like the initial "GT Life" menu / ui at the very front. That part with it's big buttons and vertical banners just kind of reminds me of a smart phone or tablet menu system, don't get me wrong I like the way it works much better than GT5 (it's much less clumsy feeling) but I just don't care for the visual look and design of it. Maybe it'll be a bit better with the full game when there's actually more content to deal with.
Tutorial lap and Lucas Ordonez
I'm all for having some beginner tutorials, driving school stuff and wotnot but I found this to be more of a pain in the arse than interesting. I think I mentioned it before when we saw some pictures from Silverstone and I don't have any ill will toward Lucas as a person just the way the feature is implemented, his constant popping up reminds me of the Mr Clippy fiasco from previous incarnations of the MS Office suite of programmes. Here I am trying to do a lap and his annoying face keeps popping up with these useful tips like "Hey don't forget to brake for that corner that's up ahead!" which you invariably DON'T brake for because you're trying to read the stupid popup message, IMO this whole feature in the demo could be done so much better.
At the very least it ought to pause the game so you can actually read what he's trying to tell you, or perhaps instead of you driving yourself right away it almost should be a scripted "ride along" tutorial that can stop and start and properly identify important things for you. Right now it's like you received a text message while driving and I found it more distracting than useful. Same with the popups on the menu screen, Lucas' stupid grinning face popping up saying "Hey, now you need to buy a car so we can race! Go here to buy it!" then "Hey now you've got your car you can go racing! Go here to race!", it's Mr Clippy all over again... I swear if he pops up grinning at me when I first start a GT6 online lounge to ask me if I want help sending my friends a PM / invite to come join.. >:(.
Graphics
Generally not bad, overall they seem a bit more polished than GT5 though I think most of it is more subtle and less obvious. There does appear to be a framerate issue particularly with cockpit mode and lots of smoke though I don't think it's terribly bad and hopefully just due to it being a demo. Lighting and reflections seem to have improved as have dust / smoke clouds and shadows too generally speaking, there are a few spots where you still see a bit of jagged smoke / shadow lines but it's much improved over GT5.
One thing I would like to see changed is the colour contrast or vibrancy, particularly noticable on Autumn Ring (I assume it's been updated with some new lighting / graphics features?) it seems like the colours are simply too colourful. It almost felt like I was driving around in Kingdom Hearts or Zelda or some kind of overly colourful game like that, it might be just me or my screen (or maybe a PS3 setting I can change?) though.
Physics
Now this seems to be a very significant improvement to me, not that GT5 was really all that bad but this is definitely that much better but at the same time it felt like quite a natural improvement. Not like when I first went from GT5 to iRacing and the physics seemed drastically different, in some ways it's more like going from GT5 to Race 07 or even pCars.. not that I'm necessarily saying the physics are as good as those games but the feeling when switching between GT5 and GT6 is pronounced in many ways but relatively easy to cope with.
I thoroughly enjoyed sailing around in that Nissan Leaf, perhaps it's just the sheer comedy of the yacht-like suspension rolling from port to starboard but I think when we finally get the game there will be a lot of racing in the smaller eco-box cars like that. I can see them being WAY more fun in GT6 than they are in GT5, and they're already quite fun as it is :).
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I don't care for the menu system that much. It's fine for a small demo, but I don't see it being good for a full game. Graphics seem to have really changed the environment. I'm not observant enough to tell how good the cars look, maybe a bit better, but the environment looks better (if not a bit too bright/colorful).
Physics...the most important part of the demo to me...seem to have minor changes. Maybe those minor changed are important to hardcore sim drivers, I don't know. Stability under braking is very different. Like someone said, trail braking may be more useful with these physics. Power oversteer may be a bit more sensitive, but basically the same. Again, nothing seems to be a drastic change, just an evolution slightly closer to what's desired.
Feldynn, that shitty Leaf did some interesting things. It still had certain understeer as would be expected, but it had lift off oversteer that could actually be dangerous. I think if this car (if it were lighter) could make for very entertaining racing. (if I recall, the leaf has a very balanced weight distribution for FF, so this may not translate to other FF cars.)
I also got a pretty good time last night. Some of those slow corner combinations make it easy to lose tons of time.
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Good review Feld. Yeah, on the menu system, it didn't really bother me because I figured it's configured for the demo. For the job it's doing, it's fine. I will wait to see what they roll out for the full game. I don't think this will scale well to a bunch of features in the full edition.
Great observations on the Leaf. I really enjoyed driving that one as well. Seemed like you could tame that boat on rough seas if you were careful. And then it was kind of a beautiful thing when you got it right. AI sucked bad. They were horribly slow.
My reaction to Lucas' face was ... wow, that's one of us up there. I couldn't stop thinking about how cool that was for them to do. I'd like to see them feature a new driver each year, kind of like how EA Sports does with their football or baseball franchises. The only difference is that instead of Payton Manning, it could be me or you (well not really, but you get the point). Really freakin' cool. And I didn't mind the thing popping up because I was just farting around at that point, didn't care about my times. I'm currently ranked somewhere in the 60,000+ range in the US. LOL. Don't really care. Haven't even tried to connect my wheel yet. Just poking around with the demo, checking it out. So more Lucas!!! :)
Then finally, there's a massive difference between the 370Z in the first part and the one you drive at Silverstone. Massive. I think this game is really going to give us more driving variety from car to car. I'm excited for that.
MX
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So how much time do we have to get our best time in?
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So how much time do we have to get our best time in?
Competition ends on July 28th
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I fired up the PS3 last night and turned my first laps in a GT game in almost a year. The demo was quite fun and it was nice to get back into a Gran Turismo 'family' sim. I'm a total geek for all things GT, any version of GT always feels like home.
The rules didn't say anything about us Silverstone guys being disallowed this year so maybe I'll give it a shot again....but time is hard to find lately so I don't think a top 32 is anywhere near reality. I do know some of my Silverstone buddies are going to give it a legitimate shot, so it will be interesting to see who from 2011, 2012, and the new 'young guns' can make it. It will be fun to watch.
Wiz, nice time man, you're haulin' the mail dude!
Maybe I'll see you dudes at some Tuna events since I'll be putting the DFGT back on the rig tonight. 8)
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Good to have you here Spec.
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Letter to the bank manager - The Young Ones - BBC comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANquX0YHFhw#)
Love The Young Ones... think I still have all of em on VHS, despite no VHS player...
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this demo is sooooo unrealistic. I haven't had one tire explode on me yet.
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Letter to the bank manager - The Young Ones - BBC comedy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANquX0YHFhw#)
Love The Young Ones... think I still have all of em on VHS, despite no VHS player...
I have the DVD set. :)
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I made it to the first timed sector of Silverstone. I wish I could take some recon laps in the leaf as I have no idea where to turn next. I suck at learning new tracks.
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I made it to the first timed sector of Silverstone. I wish I could take some recon laps in the leaf as I have no idea where to turn next. I suck at learning new tracks.
Download the Real Racing 3 app. It's on there.
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I made it to the first timed sector of Silverstone. I wish I could take some recon laps in the leaf as I have no idea where to turn next. I suck at learning new tracks.
Download the Real Racing 3 app. It's on there.
I believe that requires a smart phone. I only have dumb phones.
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MasterGT: Have you managed to get anything from Sony? This is pissing me off. If you go to the GT website and select Canada for the website, it takes you to the US site. In the Academy leaderboards we are lumped into "other" and can't sort the results by Canada like we could in previous academies. The demo is fixed in mph with no option to change it to km/h. Did we do something to piss Sony or PD off? Did Kaz visit Winnipeg in the winter and lose one of his toes to frostbite? Did he watch a Canucks hockey game? Does he think that we actually cut the tails off of beavers and fry them up? What did we do?
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MasterGT: Have you managed to get anything from Sony? This is pissing me off. If you go to the GT website and select Canada for the website, it takes you to the US site. In the Academy leaderboards we are lumped into "other" and can't sort the results by Canada like we could in previous academies. The demo is fixed in mph with no option to change it to km/h. Did we do something to piss Sony or PD off? Did Kaz visit Winnipeg in the winter and lose one of his toes to frostbite? Did he watch a Canucks hockey game? Does he think that we actually cut the tails off of beavers and fry them up? What did we do?
I read at the planet that MPH / km/h is automatically fixed depending on country selection.
I believe Canada is not included because all you guys care aboot is hockey eh.
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this demo is sooooo unrealistic. I haven't had one tire explode on me yet.
(http://i.imgur.com/kFDI8WD.gif)
Well done!
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MasterGT: Have you managed to get anything from Sony? This is pissing me off. If you go to the GT website and select Canada for the website, it takes you to the US site. In the Academy leaderboards we are lumped into "other" and can't sort the results by Canada like we could in previous academies. The demo is fixed in mph with no option to change it to km/h. Did we do something to piss Sony or PD off? Did Kaz visit Winnipeg in the winter and lose one of his toes to frostbite? Did he watch a Canucks hockey game? Does he think that we actually cut the tails off of beavers and fry them up? What did we do?
Terrence and Phillip. Nuff said.
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For those not on my FL ... currently at US#243 @ 2:21.463
Nice track and a good rhythmic beat to it. Look forward to it on GT6
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For those not on my FL ... currently at US#243 @ 2:21.463
Nice track and a good rhythmic beat to it. Look forward to it on GT6
Awesome time Agent. 8)
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Thank you Dude ..... my goal is to be in the 2:20's (and then I'm done) but I keep messing up corner #9-Copse Corner. Loosing booku time in that spot. Interesting corner that doesnt feel natural to me so I keep overdriving it.
I'll get it tho .... I think. ;)
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Spent about 30-45 minutes working on the full lap got to a 2:23.9xx. I am not feeling any rythm to this place. There are a few turns that string together for me but just not a full lap yet. I am hoping with some more seat time I can improve some.
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You guys are well beyond me. I am still at the individual sector tests before the full timed lap. I drank too much to remember 5 turns last night and I will probably drink the same amount tonight. I will be posting a time "soon" though. :)
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I did a 2'22.323 so far. Not sure where i'd make up the time to beat my furry friend (I only focus on my furry friends and Tunas because I'm ineligible for the next round anyway.) who is 3 tenths ahead of me & from Canada though... it's either the triple threat of Maggots, Beckotts and Chapel, the double header of Brooklands and Luffield. or even Stowe. I hate Stowe... my braking point there is still pure luck.
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I got it golded, but not by much. will be turning laps for a while basically learning the course. Using the line till its figured out
Also, does the back end of that 370 feel tighter than last year to you guys, or do you think its just different physics?
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Also, does the back end of that 370 feel tighter than last year to you guys, or do you think its just different physics?
I haven't spent that much time in the Tuned 37oz yet but I did notice it felt much easier to control than last year's one. With TC on 0 instead of the default 7 last year's was a nightmare to drive for me but I'm having a much easier time with it this year with TC on 0, not that it isn't still wild at times but it's much more manageable for me now. I assume it's just down to the new physics, suspension / tire stuff rather than changes specifically to the car itself, especially since the Leaf also felt a lot nicer too.
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Also, does the back end of that 370 feel tighter than last year to you guys, or do you think its just different physics?
I haven't spent that much time in the Tuned 37oz yet but I did notice it felt much easier to control than last year's one. With TC on 0 instead of the default 7 last year's was a nightmare to drive for me but I'm having a much easier time with it this year with TC on 0, not that it isn't still wild at times but it's much more manageable for me now. I assume it's just down to the new physics, suspension / tire stuff rather than changes specifically to the car itself, especially since the Leaf also felt a lot nicer too.
Did you ever happen to think that your driving may have improved since last year??........No, wait ........that's not it. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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I did a 2'22.323 so far. Not sure where i'd make up the time to beat my furry friend (I only focus on my furry friends and Tunas because I'm ineligible for the next round anyway.) who is 3 tenths ahead of me & from Canada though... it's either the triple threat of Maggots, Beckotts and Chapel, the double header of Brooklands and Luffield. or even Stowe. I hate Stowe... my braking point there is still pure luck.
That is a good time. As far as finding time, you can chase ghosts and check sector split times to see where you are losing the most and work on that.
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Did you ever happen to think that your driving may have improved since last year??........No, wait ........that's not it. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Actually that's a good point Allstar, you need to get out on track more often because I noticed the other night that I'm much better at hitting my mark when you're arround.. it's ok if I call you Mark right? ;D
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A couple of questions. Anyone download the game from the Canadian store? If so was the speed in km/h? To the Americans, is temperature in farenheit or celcius? I downloaded mine from the UK. Speeds in mph and temp in celsius.
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I watched some replays from some of the top guys and their cars are doing some unnatural things. They're essentially drifting through some corners and I can't even kick the flippin' tail out at all.
I've tried trail braking but all that does is cause the car to push. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
The car just plows and I can't get it to turn anything like the fast guys (all aids off, ABS at 1). The right hander at the end of the old front straight (heading toward the esses) I brake, downshift and turn HARD right and the car sails off to the left toward the wall.
At one point, just messing around, I went through that corner and spun my 900 degree wheel all the way to right lock and floored the gas and the car essentially when straight. Sweet.
Anyone have any tips?
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I don't have any tips at this point. Best is a 2:27.x. But I'm still learning the track and still driving with aids on. I'm doing that because I just wanted to get a decent time in for a ghost lap. Then I'll start pairing back the aides and trying to go faster.
Love that it shows your friend's times. Feldyn is blowing up the first four section tests, beat me on every one. Should be interesting to see the final lap you put down.
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Stepper, I haven't had any trouble at all hanging the tail out. Not really sure how to help though. Maybe chunk it in the turn a little harder, and nail the gas.
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The colours in Autumn ring look a lot more like the colours that you would see in a Montreal fall.
I noticed something else, there appears to be less antialiasing in cockpit view.
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Regarding trail braking ... the new engine behaves more like a real car. If you are pushing, it means that you have all the weight transitioned to the front outside corner. That tire can only provide so much grip before it lets go. Once it lets go, your car will continue in the direction of travel of the vector you are on.
How to solve this ... you can't be in your threshold braking zone to do this. Go deeper into the corner, slow the car down more and then roll into the corner and trail the brakes decreasingly down to the apex. This does a couple things. First, you're asking a whole lot less of that outside front tire. Second, you settle the car down more and the other three tires carry more of the braking and cornering load.
In a nutshell, you're going too fast if it's pushing.
HTH,
Michael
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Turn 4 can kiss my ass.
I'm losing at least .500 on that one corner alone to the aliens. :P
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one of the guys on my friend list has a 19xxx, in turn 4 he goes deep and wide then powers out and leaves me in the distance. I tried going that way but can't get there right.
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I somehow just pulled a crazy lap outta my ass in the 1st GT-R time trial and am 11th in the world right now. Just .003 off of 10th. Pretty damn happy!
Also, whoever thought these two corners (highlighted in pic) were a good idea needs to be fired asap. I realize they had to make a link somehow but this is terrible in my opinion.
(http://i.imgur.com/HJECs8J.gif)
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I watched some replays from some of the top guys and their cars are doing some unnatural things. They're essentially drifting through some corners and I can't even kick the flippin' tail out at all.
I've tried trail braking but all that does is cause the car to push. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
The car just plows and I can't get it to turn anything like the fast guys (all aids off, ABS at 1). The right hander at the end of the old front straight (heading toward the esses) I brake, downshift and turn HARD right and the car sails off to the left toward the wall.
At one point, just messing around, I went through that corner and spun my 900 degree wheel all the way to right lock and floored the gas and the car essentially when straight. Sweet.
Anyone have any tips?
The car has TC on by default.
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If you're really bored and want to give the new physics a good test, start either the Sunday or Clubman Cup. As soon as the race starts, turn around and run the tracks in their reverse configuration. We're used to these tracks in reverse anyway so no learning needed. The AI will run their 2 laps and then a slow lap after they finish. After that, they go into the pits giving you free roam to fuck around and give the new physics a good workout. Enjoy!
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Now I can't find your colorful write up of the Academy TT lap. Doh!
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MasterGT: Have you managed to get anything from Sony? This is pissing me off. If you go to the GT website and select Canada for the website, it takes you to the US site. In the Academy leaderboards we are lumped into "other" and can't sort the results by Canada like we could in previous academies. The demo is fixed in mph with no option to change it to km/h.
Not even from the Canadian office.
However, I will bring these points up because they should have been considered, one way or another.
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Number of participants so far....
USA - 16,773
Global Leaderboard - 132,762
Obviously this will include people using more than 1 ID but it still gives us a rough idea.
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My bid for min 2:20.xxx is on hold due to the fracken flu. Force feed back hurts my upper body, and the lack of energy to flip the car around just isnt there.
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If you have a spare 43 minutes and have the desire to go faster at Silverstone, watch this video. Tidgney is a top 50 Global driver and really knows whats up. Super nice guy too. I haven't watched it yet myself but I can almost guarantee after I do I'll knock off a few tenths here and there. He did the same thing last year and after watching I climbed up the leaderboard quite a bit.
[GT Academy 2013] - Online Qualifier: Guide/Tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN_WLQDe2QE#ws)
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My bid for min 2:20.xxx is on hold due to the fracken flu. Force feed back hurts my upper body, and the lack of energy to flip the car around just isnt there.
Get better soon and good luck getting that 2:20 Agent. You'll get it! :)
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I noticed the Tidgney video up at the planet and was going to post a link. He is answering questions so I guess I should go ahead and post a link. So with out further adieu.
Gt Academy 2013 qualifier guide (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8643462#post8643462)
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So, when did this start? Do we have to download this again? Is this just another exercise in frustration? I just don't have the time anymore to look. :(
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So, when did this start? Do we have to download this again? Is this just another exercise in frustration? I just don't have the time anymore to look. :(
July 2rd
yes
yes
understood and i concur
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Thanks Dude.
:tiphat
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Nicely done on P 95 Wizard. Keep going, it would be freaking awesome to see you get inside the top 31. :)
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Someone's practice one. Flipping out!
IMG 0067 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMpoiRvpUK8#)
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Someone's practice one. Flipping out!
(http://i.imgur.com/yH7eigp.jpg)
It looked like all he hit was a rumble strip... :laugh
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Meanwhile Ti-tech85 has gone 2'16.516. :o
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Someone's practice one. Flipping out!
Boy, I'm sure glad the physics have improved.
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If you have a spare 43 minutes and have the desire to go faster at Silverstone, watch this video. Tidgney is a top 50 Global driver and really knows whats up. Super nice guy too. I haven't watched it yet myself but I can almost guarantee after I do I'll knock off a few tenths here and there. He did the same thing last year and after watching I climbed up the leaderboard quite a bit.
[GT Academy 2013] - Online Qualifier: Guide/Tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN_WLQDe2QE#ws)
Tidgney's tutorial really helped me out with the last Academy. He does very good tutorials.
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Nicely done on P 95 Wizard. Keep going, it would be freaking awesome to see you get inside the top 31. :)
Thanks Dude! :)
I'm not eligible so it doesn't really matter, but I am "going for it". I'd still like to see if I can make top 31.
Though I don't see it happening. I've hit a wall that I can't seem to get past. I think my max will be about 2:18.5xx
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Meanwhile Ti-tech85 has gone 2'16.516. :o
(http://i.imgur.com/kdCxV9H.gif)
That's just incredible.
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I'm watching tdgney's video (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=1733.msg63159#msg63159) now. I have my track map (http://corseclienti.ferrari.com/2012en/files/2012/05/silverstone_circuit1.png) in hand, which is stapled to Wizard's Walk Through (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2541.msg62975#msg62975). That I carry around with me always.
My assault on a Gold begins SOON!
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I'm watching tdgney's video (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=1733.msg63159#msg63159) now. I have my track map (http://corseclienti.ferrari.com/2012en/files/2012/05/silverstone_circuit1.png) in hand, which is stapled to Wizard's Walk Through (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2541.msg62975#msg62975). That I carry around with me always.
My assault on a Gold begins SOON!
I hope to be :stoopid:
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I'm watching tdgney's video (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=1733.msg63159#msg63159) now. I have my track map (http://corseclienti.ferrari.com/2012en/files/2012/05/silverstone_circuit1.png) in hand, which is stapled to Wizard's Walk Through (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=2541.msg62975#msg62975). That I carry around with me always.
My assault on a Gold begins SOON!
Good luck Dude. That video is freaking awesome. Fundamentally changes the way I look at the track now. Love the double double apex, lol. Crazy stuff.
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He has time stamps posted at Gtplanet (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8643462#post8643462).
Time Stamps:
Abbey: 02:35
Farm Curve: 03:50
Village: 05:13
Loop: 07:15
Brooklands: 12:22
Luffield: 14:30
Copse: 16:24
Maggots: 20:55
Becketts: 21:37
Chapel: 22:00
Stowe: 25:20
Vale: 26:30
Club: 27:00
Flying Lap: 29:35
Wheel & Foot cam: 31:54
P.S. I meant finish line with speed (Mentioned later in the video) which is before the start of the lap.
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The looking for braking marker on the apex side of a corner carries over to any track. :) Very nice video.
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Also, I'm up to Copse. Wow lol cops not corpse. Ah well, sorry Charlie.
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Nicely done on P 95 Wizard. Keep going, it would be freaking awesome to see you get inside the top 31. :)
Thanks Dude! :)
I'm not eligible so it doesn't really matter, but I am "going for it". I'd still like to see if I can make top 31.
Though I don't see it happening. I've hit a wall that I can't seem to get past. I think my max will be about 2:18.5xx
?? Why not?
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Nicely done on P 95 Wizard. Keep going, it would be freaking awesome to see you get inside the top 31. :)
Thanks Dude! :)
I'm not eligible so it doesn't really matter, but I am "going for it". I'd still like to see if I can make top 31.
Though I don't see it happening. I've hit a wall that I can't seem to get past. I think my max will be about 2:18.5xx
?? Why not?
Could it possibly be that Wizard is registered north of the border, eh?
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Let's just say I had some points on my drivers license as a young adult.
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Let's just say I had some points on my drivers license as a young adult.
Is there a police chase video we should be looking for? :)
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Let's just say I had some points on my drivers license as a young adult.
Well hey, they are looking for drivers that like to go fast!!!
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Let's just say I had some points on my drivers license as a young adult.
Is there a police chase video we should be looking for? :)
Possibly! (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
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There is one improvement that needs to be implemented for the academy. No more bumper cam. I got down to a 2:22.066 in car went out in bumper cam and was able to start improving my time immediately. So disappointing. :copz: I know not everyone hell maybe no one will agree with me. Sure the skills will transfer but it would be like the NBA summer league playing on 9 foot rims. Then if they actually make the team standards switch and they go to a regulation rim height.
I only ran a handful of laps on bumper but there appears to be a difference.
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There is one improvement that needs to be implemented for the academy. No more bumper cam. I got down to a 2:22.066 in car went out in bumper cam and was able to start improving my time immediately. So disappointing. :copz: I know not everyone hell maybe no one will agree with me. Sure the skills will transfer but it would be like the NBA summer league playing on 9 foot rims. Then if they actually make the team standards switch and they go to a regulation rim height.
I only ran a handful of laps on bumper but there appears to be a difference.
I think it has more to do with the frame rate drops in cockpit view. It's a similar bug to the "timing bug" that GT5 suffered from with more than 12 people in a lobby. When the frame rate skips, the game timer skips too, adding time.
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There is one improvement that needs to be implemented for the academy. No more bumper cam. I got down to a 2:22.066 in car went out in bumper cam and was able to start improving my time immediately. So disappointing. :copz: I know not everyone hell maybe no one will agree with me. Sure the skills will transfer but it would be like the NBA summer league playing on 9 foot rims. Then if they actually make the team standards switch and they go to a regulation rim height.
I only ran a handful of laps on bumper but there appears to be a difference.
I drive cockpit view in every other sim that I play. I just can't do it in GT. They messed it up somehow. The roof shouldn't cover half the screen as some cars do in GT5. And as Wiz mentioned, the cockpit view in the GT academy demo has performance issues which might lead to slower times compared to bumper.
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For the guys that make it to silverstone there is no choice of view once you are there so why give the option to begin the contest with?
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I actually agree with you Baked, I always thought it was weird to see Academy / competition videos (like that Racer X thing at E3) of people driving in odd views like Roof cam so I think having everyone limited to one realistic camera view would be a good thing for the Academy competition. Though on the flipside of that I do understand what GT11 is talking about with the screwed up cockpit view, and obviously there is the performance issue with the demo itself in cockpit view (I didn't notice it that much myself unless I was doing donuts or something and haven't tried bumper cam).
So in order to make a forced cockpit or "realistic" 1rd Person View for the Academy they need to figure something out with the camera views at least. What would be perfect for me is a fully adjustable cockpit camera so you can move it around and change the FoV to suit your own taste / screen setup or maybe some sort of dashboard / hood cam that's sat close to the windshield and on the driver's side of the car, or perhaps both so you have a couple of view choices that are at least halfway realistic in the sense of what you might see from a driver's perspective rather than a camera mounted in a far less realistic position elsewhere on the car.
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I completely disagree about the camera views. Let people use what they are most comfortable with. Sure, if everyone used the same one, it would be equal footing. But everyone has enough time to experiment with the different views and find one they are comfortable with. And lets be honest. The only people that really have a chance are the ones that have been playing GT for years now. Everyone has a preference. Nobody wants someone with a different preference to mandate that we do it their way and not our way. That would be awful. (unless you pick the view I'm using ... :) )
At the end of the day, the winner of this competition has to do it in a real car and the camera view issue goes out the proverbial window.
I would be way more flexible on standardization of the view if:
1. Frame rate was not an issue.
2. The view was realistic.
3. Supported the Occulus Rift or similar system so you could actually look around the cockpit, look out the window at your apex and generally see where the heck you are going.
YMMV,
MX
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At the end of the day, the winner of this competition has to do it in a real car and the camera view issue goes out the proverbial window.
Too much to cut away for just this part for a proper quote.
This is exactly why is should never enter the picture. There are no cars with a drivers seat on the bumper. So why start the comp with one like that?
And really you want to talk about lack of realism and then turn around and say bumper cam is acceptable how unreal is that view honestly mx? While not perfect, of the two, cockpit view at least comes closer to real life. That is my rebuttal to your #2
Now for #1 frame rate would not be a divisive issue as everyone would have the same framer rate issue..
Same for #3 nobody would have an advantage of seeing or not being able to see it is equal for everyone playing.
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There are no cars with a drivers seat on the bumper.
GT's "bumpercam" has nothing to do with a POV at the bumper. Never has been there. It was always at driver eye height and roughtly in the seat, and centred on the car.
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There are no cars with a drivers seat on the bumper.
GT's "bumpercam" has nothing to do with a POV at the bumper. Never has been there. It was always at driver eye height and roughtly in the seat, and centred on the car.
At the seat but you see no dash no hood or fenderline? What kind of car gives that view at the seat centered and eyel level?
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It seems to me the topic has shifted a little.
At first, the point was that bumper cam may be an unfair advantage. Which, given the timing bug that I believe exists, is a fair criticism. I don't believe this bug existed in prior Academys, so that only works for this year. That said, everyone has the opportunity to switch to bumper cam, basically making it a moot point in my eyes.
Now, it appears the topic is more about "realism", which begs the question... should DS3 users then not be allowed to participate? I've never seen a car with an analog stick used for steering. :-\
To me the main point to GT Academy is, is it working? Based on the success of Lucas, Jann, Jordan, Bryan, Wolfgang, etc., I'd say yes, it's working just fine.
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At the end of the day, the winner of this competition has to do it in a real car and the camera view issue goes out the proverbial window.
Too much to cut away for just this part for a proper quote.
This is exactly why is should never enter the picture. There are no cars with a drivers seat on the bumper. So why start the comp with one like that?
And really you want to talk about lack of realism and then turn around and say bumper cam is acceptable how unreal is that view honestly mx? While not perfect, of the two, cockpit view at least comes closer to real life. That is my rebuttal to your #2
Now for #1 frame rate would not be a divisive issue as everyone would have the same framer rate issue..
Same for #3 nobody would have an advantage of seeing or not being able to see it is equal for everyone playing.
You're still missing the point. It is not equal if you get to use a view you are used to and I'm forced to use one I'm not used to. Please don't legislate my uterus!!! LOL. (Sorry, politics here in Texas have gotten a bit crazy lately). Anyways, great idea. Hope it never gets implemented. :)
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It is a multi faceted debate. Even playing field, realism are both in play.
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I've never seen a car with an analog stick used for steering. :-\
You know ... it just dawned on me. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!! I want one. Think how much that would freak out the driver driving next to you. No steering wheel. Just a DS3 in your hands. Although it would be a bummer when the battery ran out. :)
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The joystick question is a fair one as well when they gather the potential Silverstone candidates can someone say no thanks to a wheel and use a controller?
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Mx you dont want to be forced to use a view you are uncomfortable with but it is fine if someone else has to?
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The joystick question is a fair one as well when they gather the potential Silverstone candidates can someone say no thanks to a wheel and use a controller?
No. L_Harrison made it a year or two ago using a DS3 to the round of 32 and was forced to use a wheel. He did not make it to Silverstone, though I believe he did quite well.
Also, don't get me wrong, I too wish to see the Academy be as fair as possible. I just think forcing users to use a specific view and/or proper equipment would be a PR nightmare for Nissan/PD.
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Before anyone gets too pissed off at me this is all speculatory anyhow as very few if any of us would make it that far. This debate is just for poops and giggles.
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Wiz it could be offered with only one view and they already know/tell us what each of us are currently using.
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Wiz it could be offered with only one view and they already know/tell us what each of us are currently using.
I understand this. And to be honest, I would be ok with it.
Sorry, I should have clarified better. What I meant was, after 4 years now of the Academy being the way it's been, making the switch now to force a certain view, would be the possible PR nightmare I spoke of.
And btw, I ain't pissed at nobody. It's a good debate I think. :)
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We (well not 'we' literally, as I'm Canadian, and slow - relatively speaking) can qualify for GT Academy in our underwear with a joint, sitting in our basements. Realism?
I think the only reason to lock out a 'view' in the car is if there truly is a game performance issue, which it seems to be what some believe.
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To throw another wrench into the proverbial monkeyworks this is something I think I said last year on the PSN forum I think in reference to the whole DS3 vs. Wheel debate that was raging at the time, sort of goes against my liking the idea of only one view (which I like because I liked that iRacing only had the one view, I only had 1 monitor when I played that too):
I always thought the idea of the GT Academy was to find the best video gamer and turning them into a proper race car driver, not to turn the person who uses the most realistic controller into a real driver. If a gamer gets to a final using a controller why should he be forced to use a wheel?
I think the conversation sort of devolved into a "well you don't see cars driven by DS3 controllers!" rage at one point, though it shouldn't matter if cars are driven with a wheel / pedals or a rudder / sail if the purpose is to find the person who's best at "playing a game", it's sort of a principle thing I guess. I think Wizard was involved in that conversation too, but I might be wrong or simply mistaken :).
Like new Starbursts I'm a man of juicy contradictions ;D... wait, that doesn't sound right!
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First off, the car in MIB had a controller so driving with a DS3 is totally realistic.
On a more serious note. Take a drive in your car and pay attention to what you see while you are driving. You don't see the dash, you don't see the ceiling, you don't even see the speedometer unless you specifically look at it. To me, bumper cam mimics this better than cockpit. You loose too much situational awareness in the cockpit view which in someways makes it less realistic. Of course since you are seeing through the car in bumper cam, you see too much of the ground. I only think this is truly an advantage on tracks like Laguna Seca where you have a steep drop off. ALL views are a compromise and sacrifice aspects of reality. The reason that triple screens is so great is because you can mimic a proper field of view with a cockpit but not loose you horizontal view.
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Well when you consider only a small percentage of the people who even do the academy, really care about going to the end, I see no point in forcing everyone to use a certain view. How would that be any different than them forcing you to use SRF in a seasonal evnet? People don't like that either. The vast majority are probably like myself, and just play this game for fun, and have no aspirations to be a race car driver. I realize GTA is a contest to find a real driver, but it doesn't need to alienate the majority of it's fans.
Also, until they can make a game that can replicate a seat of the pants driving experience, I'll continue using a controller. My biggest complaint when I had a wheel was, I never felt connected to the car, it was more like reacting to whats going on, rather than controlling it. Bravo to all the guys who have adapted to a wheel. I needed some real feedback, not some random jerking in a plastic steering wheel. In the end it's just a game, and I'll continue to treat it as such, until I see a reason not to.
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There are no cars with a drivers seat on the bumper.
GT's "bumpercam" has nothing to do with a POV at the bumper. Never has been there. It was always at driver eye height and roughtly in the seat, and centred on the car.
At the seat but you see no dash no hood or fenderline? What kind of car gives that view at the seat centered and eyel level?
This is the view with the New Beetle doing a GT3? Licence Test, in bumpercam view. The yellow outline is for the roof/dash/A-pillars line. This would not be possible if the POV was out front. The highlighted time and the "mirror" shadow shows how little the car moved (just inches) since the timer started. If you had a ghost that showed "blobhead", then you could see the POV eye-height, too. Nothing has changed for later versions.
I have seen some racing sims that actually do have the POV on the bumper. They are very difficult to drive. We get used to whatever view we like or use and humans are quite adaptable at switching, but any in-game restrictions are hard to overcome. That's why a lot of players have no interest in cockpit view. The best cockpit view that I have used is in Superstars V8, not GT's.
(http://community.us.playstation.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/118885i3D36506227C45311/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-1)
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Bumper cam gives a view of each apex you just do not get unless you are in a race kart.
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"ALL views are a compromise and sacrifice aspects of reality."
well said. some parts of some games are closer to reality than others, but I believe that they all fall very short.
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Bumper cam gives a view of each apex you just do not get unless you are in a race kart.
I Always use the 3rd person/chase view. As unrealistic as it gets. However, in a car IRL, with slight movements of my eyeballs, I change my entire perception of my surroundings, inside and outside of the car. This can't be done in cockpit view, so cockpit view doesn't give the reality that it tries to. No cockpit view with current technology is realistic.
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Bumper cam gives a view of each apex you just do not get unless you are in a race kart.
Don't mean to keep singling you out, but I felt the need to reply to this as well. I agree with what several of the other guys are saying. I actually started writing in one of the other replies that I feel that the "bumper cam" as we're calling it is actually a more realistic view from the cockpit than the cockpit view. And MasterGT's responses have pretty much confirmed that. Yeah, you don't see the pillars, but it feels more like the view to me when you're in a moving car. If we had a camera setup in a fixed position in our cockpit, yeah, that fixed pillar would be an issue and it would behave like the cockpit view in the game, obstructing your view. But what actually happens is you're moving around all over the place in there. The camera pov from your eyes is actually moving, bobbing, searching, scanning and piecing together various views of the apexes to know when to brake and when to turn. If you watch the really good drivers at an autocross, for example, they aren't looking out their front window. Their head is turned and looking out the side window in the direction of the next apex with a fully unobstructed view of their line. Why? Because that's how you go fast.
The bumper cam gives me the widest possible view of the road in front of me. I use that to compensate for the lack of a real 3D car like experience where I'm able to navigate my vision around the obstructions in the cockpit by moving around. It's a trade off. But it certainly feels more real than driving with an obstructed view of the course. IMHO. BTW, I'm not mad either, so long as I don't have to drive in cockpit view. Hate that about iRacing.
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Next time you have a track day and go through a right hander when you get to the apex look at the curbing and tell me then if it matches how much of the curbing you see in bumper cam. The only way that is the same is if you are in a go kart or possibly some other open wheeled car.. If you are in a miata you dont see that much curbing. Unless ypu have xray vision. In a full bodied car you have to know you are in the right spot. With bumper cam the field of vision is way too clear, you can see things you normally cannot.
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In the bumper cam view, if you are looking for a reference to determine the width of the car, then use the outside edges of the analog gauges as that reference. If you touch the outside edge of the gauges to a wall, for example, you will get slowed down. Same applies with a curb, or going off of the edge of pavement. ;)
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Next time you have a track day and go through a right hander when you get to the apex look at the curbing and tell me then if it matches how much of the curbing you see in bumper cam. The only way that is the same is if you are in a go kart or possibly some other open wheeled car.. If you are in a miata you dont see that much curbing. Unless ypu have xray vision. In a full bodied car you have to know you are in the right spot. With bumper cam the field of vision is way too clear, you can see things you normally cannot.
Yeah, you are right. But what I'm saying is that you have a whole lot more visual and non-visual information in that scenario. Don't underestimate the power of peripheral vision which is pretty much useless in a single screen simulator. The human brain is a magnificent 3D image processor. As you are pulling into that right hander, you're brain is sampling at a very high frequency and you use that data to draw a line that extends beyond the hood of the car in your mind. It's much like the line you draw playing pool trying to predict the path of a cue ball. But the 2D world does not give you the same amount of data to make that approximation. That's why, for me personally, the bumper cam view approximates what my mind is doing in real life the best. It's a compromise ... for me. The cockpit view would be doable. But you'd effectively be flying blind much of the time without any non-visual or peripheral data to bridge the gap. And that would represent a degradation of the driving experience, again, for me personally. This may not apply to everyone.
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Bumper cam gives a view of each apex you just do not get unless you are in a race kart.
I Always use the 3rd person/chase view. As unrealistic as it gets. However, in a car IRL, with slight movements of my eyeballs, I change my entire perception of my surroundings, inside and outside of the car. This can't be done in cockpit view, so cockpit view doesn't give the reality that it tries to. No cockpit view with current technology is realistic.
I remember someone (years ago) calling Rodeo out for this (or just teasing him for it)... I don't remember who it was, but I remember them referring to it as the "hot air balloon tied to the back bumper cam" or something and I always thought that was hilarious (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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Bumper cam gives a view of each apex you just do not get unless you are in a race kart.
I Always use the 3rd person/chase view. As unrealistic as it gets. However, in a car IRL, with slight movements of my eyeballs, I change my entire perception of my surroundings, inside and outside of the car. This can't be done in cockpit view, so cockpit view doesn't give the reality that it tries to. No cockpit view with current technology is realistic.
(http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) I used that term when I ran with Rodeo....we did a lot of car testing and trading back in the early days of Five. ;)
I remember someone (years ago) calling Rodeo out for this (or just teasing him for it)... I don't remember who it was, but I remember them referring to it as the "hot air balloon tied to the back bumper cam" or something and I always thought that was hilarious (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
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I call it paràsailing mode. ;)
Careful of tunnels... :D
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I like that name Charlie. So appropriate. New terminology pops up around here all the time.
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I never cared much for tunnels anyway
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Bumper cam gives a view of each apex you just do not get unless you are in a race kart.
I Always use the 3rd person/chase view. As unrealistic as it gets. However, in a car IRL, with slight movements of my eyeballs, I change my entire perception of my surroundings, inside and outside of the car. This can't be done in cockpit view, so cockpit view doesn't give the reality that it tries to. No cockpit view with current technology is realistic.
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) I used that term when I ran with Rodeo....we did a lot of car testing and trading back in the early days of Five. ;)
I remember someone (years ago) calling Rodeo out for this (or just teasing him for it)... I don't remember who it was, but I remember them referring to it as the "hot air balloon tied to the back bumper cam" or something and I always thought that was hilarious (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
I kinda figured it was you... (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) well done!
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If you have a spare 43 minutes and have the desire to go faster at Silverstone, watch this video. Tidgney is a top 50 Global driver and really knows whats up. Super nice guy too. I haven't watched it yet myself but I can almost guarantee after I do I'll knock off a few tenths here and there. He did the same thing last year and after watching I climbed up the leaderboard quite a bit.
[GT Academy 2013] - Online Qualifier: Guide/Tutorial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN_WLQDe2QE#ws)
thanks for posting, Wiz!
I 'll check it out when at home later...
I remember a video you may have posted somewhere last year which may have been this guy as well. It really helped me get up to 424th in the U.S.
So far this year I haven't used anyone else's ghost but probasbly will next time I try. I've been lucky so far finding ways to sneak past my ghost.
Doing pretty good against my friends in the individual sections, and finally got a good time in the full lap worth showing off.
389 exXboxFan United States 02:20.337
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3377 Chrome_Tuna United States 2:24.184 :laugh
I've only tried it once, and even then probably only put in 20 laps at the most. I'd rather be racing.
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389 exXboxFan United States 02:20.337
Nice time Ex! Now get your ass in the 19's! :)
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3377 Chrome_Tuna United States 2:24.184 :laugh
I've only tried it once, and even then probably only put in 20 laps at the most. I'd rather be racing.
I believe I have a 2:24 at the moment as well. :)
(http://ooligan.pdx.edu/wp-content/uploads/cheers1.jpg)
My only motivation to try to improve on that time is to learn the track better and be faster when GT6 finally comes out. But I've got time to play around with that.
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389 exXboxFan United States 02:20.337
Nice time Ex! Now get your ass in the 19's! :)
Thanks!
I have a funny story to share with you. my son was watching me do some GT Academy, and when I showed him the different leaderboards he said "Dang, wizard must really be a real wizard and has special powers to get around the track faster than everyone else."
Jeez... how can I compete with special powers???
I plan to eventually get to the 19's before this is over, as I think a few tenths shaved off is not out of the question. Now, getting to the very low 19's like you, or even into the 18's, is probably a stretch for me. (not to mention, getting into an 18 would be a "stretch" for her too! LOL)
But I was surprised by my progress last year and everyone has more potential than they think they do.
I'll post this addage I came up with again for those who haven't seen it:
"If you believe you can do a thing, you're probably right. If you believe you can't do that thing, then you're absolutely right." The idea being that we all limit outselves to what we expect to be able to achieve.
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:fucking finally got a :fucking 18!
bparty?
bparty.
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Way to go Wiz!!! :tu
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Nice job Speedy.
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Nice job Speedy.
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Way to go there Wiz!
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Awesome, Joel!!! You's a Wizard!!!
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I concur Excellent job Wiz!
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Thanks guys! :)
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After a week layoff; spent about 45 minutes and got my goal of 2:20's ... now I'm curious as to whether I have a 19 in me. The only other Tuna I can see ahead of me is Fried by .340 ... any others here at 17's - 19's?
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After a week layoff; spent about 45 minutes and got my goal of 2:20's ... now I'm curious as to whether I have a 19 in me. The only other Tuna I can see ahead of me is Fried by .340 ... any others here at 17's - 19's?
Wizard is in the 18's.
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FUCKING finally got a FUCKING 18!
bparty?
bparty.
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/nanaparty.gif)
After a week layoff; spent about 45 minutes and got my goal of 2:20's ... now I'm curious as to whether I have a 19 in me. The only other Tuna I can see ahead of me is Fried by .340 ... any others here at 17's - 19's?
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Wizard is in the 18's.
Check ....
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FUCKING finally got a FUCKING 18!
bparty?
bparty.
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/nanaparty.gif)
After a week layoff; spent about 45 minutes and got my goal of 2:20's ... now I'm curious as to whether I have a 19 in me. The only other Tuna I can see ahead of me is Fried by .340 ... any others here at 17's - 19's?
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Check/Check ... that is one and the same I do believe.
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FUCKING finally got a FUCKING 18!
bparty?
bparty.
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Killer job Wiz!!!! Nice pace man!
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Wiz, now you gotta beat Gojet again because he just slipped past ya ;)
me, I'm still struggling to get into the 19's. It's a consistency issue really, as I may pass mr. ghost at one point, then lose in at another.
I may have to put in more hours than the rest of you, but I WILL get higher if I stick with it.
For me it's really starting to be an issue of discovery and curiosity.
I ask...
"What is this person doing that I'm not doing?"
"What have they figured out that I haven't?"
"what do I need to do differently?"
I just can't stand the feeling of standing still so I definitely want to improve over my 424th position from last year. I'm close, but there's still a lot of time left for others to move up too...
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Not everyone's driving style is the same, but there is one constant...the car. Roughly a year ago I went from being awful at GT5 to being merely average because of one change I made--I accepted the characteristics of the car I was driving instead of trying to force the way I drove onto the car. I used to drive everything the same and I hated shitty cars. Instead of being mad because a '69 Camaro didn't handle like a C6 Corvette, I eventually accepted the fact that I had to slow sooner for corners.
Same thing with this GT Academy thing. The car is going to slide, drift and spin. Once you accept that and work with it, I think your times will improve.
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Killer job Wiz!!!! Nice pace man!
Thanks Spec! :)
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Wiz, now you gotta beat Gojet again because he just slipped past ya ;)
Yeah I saw that. Just by a whisker. I'll get em back ;D
me, I'm still struggling to get into the 19's. It's a consistency issue really, as I may pass mr. ghost at one point, then lose in at another.
Fuck the ghost. Turn that shit off man. :)
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thanks for the advice, but I'm torn about turning it off because a lot of times I would think I've actually passed it and turn it back on to realize I'm way behind my former self... but I know there are psychological advantages to turning it off.
Maybe I will do more of that. But I'm still not always aware of exactly how fast I've taken a corner without some sort of reference point.
So far, going against my own ghost has been more useful than chasing the leader's, since after two corners he's a second faster already!
I really wish we could easily pick a ghost of any racer and chase it.
I think there'd be more value in chasing a ghost of someone around 1-2 seconds faster than me and then once beating that, picking one of the very top leaders'.
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I should clarify.... I rarely use my own ghost. To me it's nothing but frustration. If I get a little behind, the temptation is too high to quit the lap and start over, which is usually what I'll do. Which then leads to not learning the 2nd half of the track as good as the first. And if I'm ahead of my ghost, I can start to feel my muscles tighten up with anxiety and I usually end up fucking up the lap somehow.
If I do turn on a ghost, I'll use a slightly faster ghost than my own. I seem to do ok if I'm chasing a faster ghost. I pretend like I'm racing him and focus solely on the ghost and nothing else. I find it helps me focus less on braking points, entry points, throttle, braking, etc. and basically just drive on instinct. I also find that I'll finish a lap, because if I fall behind, I know I'm slower anyway so who cares... keep going and see what happens.
I do agree though that the use of ghosts is highly subjective.
In the end, it may not even matter. I think once we're close to our limits, ghost or no ghost probably doesn't make much difference.
I really wish we could easily pick a ghost of any racer and chase it.
I think there'd be more value in chasing a ghost of someone around 1-2 seconds faster than me and then once beating that, picking one of the very top leaders'.
I remember being bummed about this last year so this year I got smart. Right at the beginning of the competition I made sure to download some of the top guys ghosts back when they were in the high 17's / low 18's. Right now I'm chasing a ghost I saved on day 2 of 2:18.380. I can hang with it until Maggotts/Becketts, then he pulls away.
I wish we could export/import ghosts. :P
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thanks for the advice, but I'm torn about turning it off because a lot of times I would think I've actually passed it and turn it back on to realize I'm way behind my former self... but I know there are psychological advantages to turning it off.
Maybe I will do more of that. But I'm still not always aware of exactly how fast I've taken a corner without some sort of reference point.
So far, going against my own ghost has been more useful than chasing the leader's, since after two corners he's a second faster already!
I really wish we could easily pick a ghost of any racer and chase it.
I think there'd be more value in chasing a ghost of someone around 1-2 seconds faster than me and then once beating that, picking one of the very top leaders'.
I agree. If we ask him nice Wiz might upload his ghost here. :)
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I agree. If we ask him nice Wiz might upload his ghost here. :)
I would if I could. Unfortunately, the export feature is inactive in the demo.
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I agree. If we ask him nice Wiz might upload his ghost here. :)
I would if I could. Unfortunately, the export feature is inactive in the demo.
Carp, that sucks.
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I agree. If we ask him nice Wiz might upload his ghost here. :)
I would if I could. Unfortunately, the export feature is inactive in the demo.
Carp, that sucks.
No, these carp suck:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdPFe5bNUQ0
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What is the ultimate goal Wiz, just to see how you stack up? You did say you didn't qualify, right? I thought about cutting some laps, but I still think I'm burned out from 2011. LOL Both times I started lapping my stress level increases and the TT nightmares begin all over again.
They still haven't clarified if past Silverstone peeps are or aren't allowed, and there are a decent amount in the zone. It will be interesting to see how Sony handles this, especially since it's in the rules in every other country that past finalists cannot compete.
Good luck to those who are lapping with any goals in mind!
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I think I would rank somewhere in the mid 30,000s, (based on the first 4 stage practices). (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif) That's ok, I have only spent about an hour on this. ;D
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What is the ultimate goal Wiz, just to see how you stack up?
Pretty much. At the very least, I'd like to be able to place higher than I did last year, which was 149th USA & 1257th Global. Ultimate goal is to finish in the top 100 (USA) and/or top spot on my friends list.
Before I met the Tunas, all I used to do is time trial so it's fairly easy for me to get into time trial mode. Frustrating as it can be, I enjoy it. :)
You did say you didn't qualify, right?
Correct.
I thought about cutting some laps
Don't do it! If you do there's no way I'll stay on top of my friend list! ;D (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
They still haven't clarified if past Silverstone peeps are or aren't allowed, and there are a decent amount in the zone. It will be interesting to see how Sony handles this, especially since it's in the rules in every other country that past finalists cannot compete.
Wasn't there some confusion about this last year as well? IIRC, they fixed it last year fairly quickly. I'm surprised they haven't clarified this yet for this year.
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I think I would rank somewhere in the mid 30,000s, (based on the first 4 stage practices). (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) That's ok, I have only spent about an hour on this. ;D
:stoopid: I wish the amount of time spent on-track would appear next to your time. It would make me feel better about my lap, which i don't even know how fast it was... but it didn't take long to get there.
Plus, it would show who the naturally quick guys are vs who is really working it. While a 14 second lap is awesome either way, someone who can do it on lap 3 vs on lap 463 would be pretty cool to know. Alien-radar.
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darn, I should have saved one of the earlier ghots too...
speaking of top of Friends lists... I beat wizard and tguns on the first practice sector, so got to the top of mine.
my goal is similar to Wizard's... to just place higher than last year. Even by one place would be fine. Top 500 was my goal last year and I got 424rd. I would like to do top 250 this year, but that is a little bit of a stretch.
But in the end that's my TRUE ultimate goal. To do better than anyone, even I, would expect. Push my own limits and find new ones ;)
Stepper, another good stat would be how many restarts ;) I'd be at the top of THAT leaderboard for sure >:(
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I guess no one likes my carp joke, oh well.
I haven't put any effort into the academy this year. Not enough time and it sucks not being able to sort by country. I think that I was like 4xxth in "other" when I quit. It felt good last time to be placed so highly in Canada even though Canada is small and no one was trying.
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The last section is brutal for me. I've run it about two dozen times and still only have had 3 times that weren't kicked out.
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I guess no one likes my carp joke, oh well.
I haven't put any effort into the academy this year. Not enough time and it sucks not being able to sort by country. I think that I was like 4xxth in "other" when I quit. It felt good last time to be placed so highly in Canada even though Canada is small and no one was trying.
I liked the carp suckers.
I've completed 2 timed laps. Right now I have silver. I will do a few more laps just to gold and be on my way. I know I can learn a lot from TT's, but I just don't have the time. I prefer to spend the time I do have racing online with friends. :)
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losing to friends is better than winning against yourself, for sure :D
on that note, I did finally break into the 19's w/ a 2:19.808.
Good for 308st in US and 3087nd in da Erf. Weird because previously it was 444rd and 4444rd.
Must be a pattern:D
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I've raced once in the last two and a half months...really don't miss it as much as I thought but I've been keeping busy with life. However, I've got a good hour of seat time doing this time trial thing and I'm enjoying it. I was terrible in the first practice session. I learned better how to drive the car in the second practice session. I breezed through the third practice session and I have no idea how to do well in the fourth practice session. I think I golded it, but I'm completely clueless in how to attack that section. Looking at the full lap as a double-edged sword-->I expect it to be both fun and painfully frustrating at the same time.
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it certainly is, Rick. I had no knowledge of this track before this TT, so those practice sessions were key for me. Some appear to have mostly just done the full lap because they figure they'll get better as they go, and they're right. But for me it was really important to try out different things in those practice sessions and then try to take what I learned to the full lap...
GOOD LUCK!
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I think I would rank somewhere in the mid 30,00085,000s, (based on the first 4 stage practices). (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif) That's ok, I have only spent about an hour on this. ;D
Watch out bitches, I'm comin after ya. :'( (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Time to see the Wizard!!!!!
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I just did something Wizard won't be able to do at the Academy..........
move up 25,000 spots. :lolz
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Ti-tech85 2:16.418
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Ti-tech85 2:16.418
IMMORTALPILOT eclipsed his previous top time the other night. It then took all of a few hours for Ti-tech to retake the lead. Really impressive.
Perhaps even more impressive is the fact the he is a full 1 second faster than all but 3 people on the US leaderboard. True alien in every sense of the word.
I just wish Dan Holland would show up and make it a real battle. It's like he fell off the face of the earth or something. I don't think he posted a time last year either.
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This is the final week of Gt Academy. I have mostly done nothing, but I do want to spend a little time each evening to try and improve. Right now I lose tons of time at the esses and Stowe is quite upsetting. ^-^
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i'm hoping to improve again too, though I've taken a break to do some of the TT's in GT5 which are less populated due to Academy ;)
Not sure, but I may currently be the top tuna in the FR-S one... looks like a few of you just gold'n'go'd it :D
A few more tenths off of my Academy time would be really nice. Top 250 in the US isn't totally out of the question, but will be hard to do I think.
I think my "improve over last year" condition has been met, because day by day I'm not slipping very much down the ladder...
so if I get no more time to improve, at least I can say I improved over last year, which was my goal.
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I have not really pushed prior and I do not wish to stress over it now. I am only doing as much or as little as I feel is fun. I make sure I boot it up, but I do not push from there. Tonight I did not feel like running at all, even though this morning I was gung ho. I got home turned it on, sat down and took a breath. I figured no time to be found, might as well focus on learning the track. So I did laps, not a lot compared to some, but 13 is a lot for me. And here that's like my half hour right there.
Funny thing, back when I knew no tracks and we had prologue, sometimes to add laps to the set race, we would race backwards for a few laps. Surprisingly sometimes those reverse laps helped me learn the track or some turn a bit better. It was a laugh and a win, win. ^-^ And yes I did do some laps in reverse.
Nope, they don't count going backwards here. :)
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And yes I did do some laps in reverse.
Nope, they don't count going backwards here. :)
if the superman movie is any indication, you should be able to reverse time by going backwards, and thus end up with an infinitely short time, taking over the world leaderboard!
Dudetuna - United States (-99:99:99.999)
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And yes I did do some laps in reverse.
Nope, they don't count going backwards here. :)
if the superman movie is any indication, you should be able to reverse time by going backwards, and thus end up with an infinitely short time, taking over the world leaderboard!
Dudetuna - United States (-99:99:99.999)
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Kneel Before ZOD DUDE!!!
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Very, very nice Wiz. :)
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Very, very nice Wiz. :)
105 GTP_Wizard 2:18.636
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Is it over? How much time is left? When does the final stage unlock?
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Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
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Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet?
;)
Sooony there Charlie! :D
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my camping trip didn't materialize as expected (real life friends don't turn out to be as reliable as GT friends) so I've suddenly found myself with the whole weekend to try and improve again.
lucky? Unlucky? A little of both.
But as I told my wife... "GT Academy is a once a year thing". She's pretty cool about it, actually.
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^ Go for it man, it's always fun and rewarding to shave time and see how you stack up.
I hopped on last night for a legitimate session to see if I could sniff Wizard's exhaust fumes. I finally found my rhythm about the time I needed to go to bed, but I found the speed to get a look at the carbon on Wizard's exhaust tip. :-*
Truth is last night was the first time I've found the track enjoyable and my laps are finally consistent, so time can still be found. The bad news is I'm getting into that cone of speed that finding big chunks of time won't happen; it will be a lot of work to find a tenth or even hundredths.
Maybe my wife will be cool and let me cut some more laps before the weekend is over.
Wiz, great time by the way; that 18.6 is smoking fast!
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Great jorb, Wiz!!!
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Thanks again y'all. :)
It ends on Sunday.
Even though I'm very happy with where I'm at, it doesn't look like I'll meet my adjusted goals unless I can make one last small improvement.
My ultimate goal now is to finish top 100 USA and top 1000 Global. Right now I'm at 108 & 1030.
I'll probably race Casual Friday tonight and give the Academy one more good effort tomorrow.
Another thing I figured out today that depressed me a bit was the fact that I was at 2:19.393 on day 2. So I've only picked up roughly .750 over 22 days. I was hoping I'd be able to improve a little more than that.
Overall though I'd say I'm doing a little better than last year so......
bparty
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well, you didn't have as much to learn as some of us, wiz. it's understandable that you wouldn't improve by leaps and bounds, especially having likely learned this track on another game.
for me, as stated before, Silverstone was brand new to me (thought it was a hot chick from 90s movies, not a race track) so getting around it cleanly the first few times was not at all knowing how to take each corner quickly. I'm guessing you had a better handle on that from the git-go.
I'm starting to get rather consistent now, with some really good spots for improvement.
I'm at 2:19.808 presently, and if I got every bit of current knowledge I have into a perfect lap (for that knowledge set) I should be down in the 2:19.2xx range.
If I were to do that well, it would get me into the top 250, which is my goal. However, several others might move into the top 250 (US) so that could put me down in the 260 range by sunday night.
Depends on what kind of mad-dash there is of people trying to get a last minute improvement in.
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also...
Wizard & Spec, what do you think the biggest factor of getting into the 18's from the 19's is? Is it smoothness of inputs, or what?
I'm sure my lines aren't perfect, but even when I seem to do the exact same line as another car, they just seem to accel out better. I knwo Ineed better throttle and brake control, so that's a place to start...
wish we could share replays!!!!
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X-Box, I think the biggest thing for me when trying to hit a magic lap in Time Trialing is consistency. Like I eluded to in my previous post, I had logged on previous times and hit a magic lap but didn't put much effort into it, but then again I couldn't come close to hitting a good lap again so I gave up and turned it off. In order to hit that super special lap, you need to hit a bunch of close laps multiple times in a row.
My previous best lap was a 19.2. Last night when I logged on I was running consistent low 20's, then i would figure something out, stub my toe, turn some red laps, then re-focus and before I knew it I was turning consistent 19.5's. When I began doing consistent low 19's I knew go0d things were coming. My last laps last night were all in the high 18's with mistakes, so I know if I put more time in more good things will come.
The main reason I say consistency is so important is having the confidence from turning so many laps and knowing HOW to nail the corners toward the end of a good lap. We've all had that first section that was great, but what happened? We KNOW it's a great sector and we start over-thinking the lap, we then freak out, and experience virtual death, now that great lap is nothing but a bad memory and another red lap.
Smoothness brings speed and consistency brings confidence, when you have it all you have a great lap.
It also helps to nail your braking so you can ease on the throttle early. I always have to remind myself to brake earlier than I think I do on a hot lap. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
Best of luck to everyone still cutting laps!
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well, you didn't have as much to learn as some of us, wiz. it's understandable that you wouldn't improve by leaps and bounds, especially having likely learned this track on another game.
That's actually a good point that I didn't think of. I've raced this track quite a bit in pCARS and a few other PC sims as well and did have pretty good knowledge of the track going in.
Depends on what kind of mad-dash there is of people trying to get a last minute improvement in.
I fully expect a pretty big shake up of the leaderboard over the next two day, for sure.
Wizard & Spec, what do you think the biggest factor of getting into the 18's from the 19's is? Is it smoothness of inputs, or what?
That's a tough question to answer.
I think the #1 thing is to learn the trail braking technique being used to get the car to slide a bit. I see lots of people going as far as calling it drifting, but I don't. I think it's just a small slide during turn in while the load is still on the front, getting the rear to come around so you can hop on the gas a little sooner. I spent one complete night just trying my best to master this technique. Didn't care what my lap times were, just practiced it over and over.
Also, yes... smooth inputs is key. I rarely am able to smash the gas down like I can in GT5. Even when the car is fairly straight, you should ease on the throttle. A 75% throttle coming out of some of the faster corners can help too.
Brake earlier than you think you need to. Turn in earlier than you think you need to.
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Oh and use ALL of the track.
Take a few laps around and really try to learn where the penalties are/aren't.
You can cut the inside on some corners pretty hard and pick up a lot of time.
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Did a Ctrl-F search for "Tuna" on the top 250 board and came up empty.
Had to remedy that! The top 250 needs some Tuna representation.
It's not my best lap, but TunaWiz is sitting in 166th right now with a 2:18.952 so it should last I think.
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Way to represent. Good job Wiz.
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Way to represent. Good job Wiz.
:stoopid: NICE!
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Did a Ctrl-F search for "Tuna" on the top 250 board and came up empty.
Had to remedy that! The top 250 needs some Tuna representation.
It's not my best lap, but TunaWiz is sitting in 166th right now with a 2:18.952 so it should last I think.
What are you saying? I'm slacking? ;)
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If any y'all want to race against a Tuna ghost in the new event that just opened up, hop on now and grab my ghost. I'm in
5th 2nd spot at the time of this writing edit but it won't last long! Go get it! :)
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If any y'all want to race against a Tuna ghost in the new event that just opened up, hop on now and grab my ghost. I'm in 5th 2nd spot at the time of this writing edit but it won't last long! Go get it! :)
I'm 34nd in other! Other being those other fucking countries that PD doesn't give a shit about.
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I don't know what to think of this Schulze GT-R. Kinda drives like a boat.
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thanks spec & wizard for the suggestions.
though I just read them, I found that what you wrote is completley true.
My final time = 252rd exXboxFan United States 02:19.315
(I'm calling it a top 250 finish because there are at least four ineligable canadians and one duplicate tuna ;) )
Consistency turned out to be the thing that finally got me to land a "magical" lap, as spec puts it. That really was key. I was frustrated with the fac tthat I had not improved in well over a week or more, and knew how to beat my ghost in a few spots.
I told myself, already late at night "I'm NOT going to sleep until I hit this". It took a few hours of going back and forth bewteen chasing my own ghost and studying others'. Then, I finally got to a point where the improved lap was in sight. I was consistently getting close to my best, and once was only a few thousandths off.
Then I finally beat it by .101 then again several laps later, beat that new time by .3xx or so. I improved roughly by .5
What sucks is that on my best final lap, I was .7xx faster at the last time check, then lost around .35x on the last section.
I should have been in the 18's if I nailed that. I considered continuing, but it was already dawn... :o
I am really loving the physics in GT6's demo, and honestly going back to GT5 seems kind of bland. I can't wait for a full version of 6!!
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I know of 9 duplicates/ineligibles in the top 250 and I'm sure there's plenty more.
The 4 Let_Canada_In accounts
Me
GTP_carracer & carracerptp are the same person
ATW_Hero & EpicGonzago3 are the same person
fasj6418 lives in Brazil
GoFasterSpiffy is someones alt, can't remember who though.
I kept an eye on the leaderboard all day yesterday and saw you snuck into the top 250. I think you were 248th when I first saw your name. You then fell to 250th and sat there for a few hours until about 5ish. Once you rolled on to page 2 at 251st, I felt terrible for putting TunaWiz up on the list. Then once you fell to 252nd, I gotta be honest and say I felt a little better.
No matter what you're top 250 in my eyes... Congrats man! I know you put in a lot of work and it looks like it paid off. I went to bed around 4am and I think you were still on. ^-^ A 19.315 is a kickass lap! :)
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I got busy with life and didn't run a single full lap. I'm sure I could have cracked the top 2,000 in the US.
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I know of 9 duplicates/ineligibles in the top 250 and I'm sure there's plenty more.
The 4 Let_Canada_In accounts
Me
GTP_carracer & carracerptp are the same person
ATW_Hero & EpicGonzago3 are the same person
fasj6418 lives in Brazil
GoFasterSpiffy is someones alt, can't remember who though.
I kept an eye on the leaderboard all day yesterday and saw you snuck into the top 250. I think you were 248th when I first saw your name. You then fell to 250th and sat there for a few hours until about 5ish. Once you rolled on to page 2 at 251st, I felt terrible for putting TunaWiz up on the list. Then once you fell to 252nd, I gotta be honest and say I felt a little better.
No matter what you're top 250 in my eyes... Congrats man! I know you put in a lot of work and it looks like it paid off. I went to bed around 4am and I think you were still on. ^-^ A 19.315 is a kickass lap! :)
Congrats to both of you and anyone else who put the time in to improve their driving. I see that Spec took over first place on my friends list.
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I got busy with life and didn't run a single full lap. I'm sure I could have cracked the top 2,000 in the US.
I only ran it the day it came out, just for an hour or so, and haven't touched it since. I think I was ranked around 4700 in the US last I checked. No bad for someone who barely ran any laps.
I guess I'll check out the bonus TT when I get home, after work.
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I haven't gotten back to this yet, so I hope the demo cars get released soon. Then we will have to see how we can put it to good use.
Nice going on the top times, guys!
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No matter what you're top 250 in my eyes... Congrats man! I know you put in a lot of work and it looks like it paid off. I went to bed around 4am and I think you were still on. ^-^ A 19.315 is a kickass lap! :)
Thanks bro! It was people like yourself and Buddyfreakind in my corner telling me I'm faster than I knew I was, that made it seem possible.
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so I hope the demo cars get released soon.
Do you know something we don't know? I've seen no mention anywhere that we're getting anything more than what we already have.
In other words, I think the bonus event that opened up yesterday is all we're going to get.
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It depends on how you interpret some of the messaging we've received already...
I think some of us are just hoping that this "demo" will become more of a real demo of the GT game itself, not just an Advertisement for Nissan, now that Academy is over.
+1
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Congrats to all those with them fasty fast times ... great job. :)
In 2012, I placed somewhere in the 2000rd area with alot of work. This year, I spent less than half the time and finished #488. I accompished waaay past my goal of 1500st.... and I rewarded myself with a Jameson on the rocks in a tall glass when I got home from work today.
I just needed to toot my own horn for a sec .... ^-^ ^-^ ^-^
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Ran the bonus TT, and the car is not as bad as I was expecting, after reading all the bitching on GTP. Managed to actually gold this one, although it took me 15 laps to do so. :-[
Also, DLed Wizard's ghost for gits and shiggles. It got away from me pretty quick. :laugh
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Great Job, Agent! Well deserved drink. I may have had a glass of wine, or two or three :D
Ran the bonus TT, and the car is not as bad as I was expecting, after reading all the bitching on GTP. Managed to actually gold this one, although it took me 15 laps to do so. :-[
Also, DLed Wizard's ghost for gits and shiggles. It got away from me pretty quick. :laugh
I was glad to find Wizard's ghost still up there too! Rated-M3 also had one last time I checked. This demo seems to keep them available even when the individual has been pushed out of the top 10, which is actually really awesome!
I was 66rd in this new time trial when I stopped last night, and still a solid 2 sec off of Wizard, though I was .001 behind at the first check. I don't think that means I'm fast, I think it means Wizard has another 1.5 seconds to find out there still!
I really hope that GT6 full version has the ability to grab just about anyone's ghost. Not just the long import/export way either.
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great work you guys up fron there. This new bonus run was fun, I actually enjoyed the car, though it took a few laps to see where you can push it. I'll be going back for more.
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The guy in 51st just got an invite. That means there were 20 ineligibles.
If the trend continues in regards to previous finalists not being eligible to go, I figure I'll make it in 2017 or so. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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The guy in 51st just got an invite. That means there were 20 ineligibles.
If the trend continues in regards to previous finalists not being eligible to go, I figure I'll make it in 2017 or so. (http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT%20forum/lol1.gif)
Sure, if you weren't a juvenile delinquent. (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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(http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab286/Goes_To_11/iVCpwgq_zps6574dc73.jpg)
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Here are your 2013 top 12. Going to Silverstone.
(http://i.imgur.com/OszIyZT.jpg)
PSN ID's from left to right...
LVracerGT
GumballCGT
JoeyFast22
brianm3
reude108
martin20az
Nissan people and Dhani motherfucking Jones!, former Linebacker for my Michigan Wolverines!
smeadows99
GTP_SOHNVONSTIG
GTP_iamsupernasty
clin09duke
Hillracing
TRC_LoCoArMeN
Congrats, bunch of people I don't know!
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regarding the ineligibles, that's even more than I thought! That means we can knock up our rank by 20 in our stat sheets of life :) ::)
and I think you could be there before 2017 easily, especially because the faster racers, once chosen for the top spots, can't be chosen again. The veterans who stick with GT will have an advantage over those who are new coming into the series, at least most of them.
if you weren't in the top 50-75 next year I'd be surprised, and possibly even higher like top 32.
maybe next year I'll shoot for top 150 or better...
On the Top 12 -- wow, they actually look like they could all run around the block successfully without injuring themselves severely! A first for GT Academy US!!
And D'Hani Jones has my respect too, because of the TV show he did traveling around the world doing indigenous sports...
I'll never forget the episode in Switzerland or Austria with the Shvinging! Classic.
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Wardez (http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=8782446#post8782446) from the Planet. :)
http://imgur.com/a/3t2A0 (http://imgur.com/a/3t2A0)
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That was a fun read/view!
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GT Academy 2013 Premieres on Spike TV, Tonight 10:30PM ET
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GT Academy 2013 Premieres on Spike TV, Tonight 10:30PM ET
Watched it. I was truly shocked at how poorly some of them drove in real life. Can't recommend getting a cheap 90's Miata and taking it to the track a couple times to put what you learn into practice. I think all of those drivers would have benefited from that.
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are they posting the episodes online or in the PSN store after they air?
that's how I'll have to watch
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BTTT!
My apologies if this has already been mentioned elsewhere, but GT Academy is starting on Monday! :wtf
If memory serves me correct this is several months before it's usual summer release date.
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two years ago it was around this time, but we had more notice.
Good luck to anyone trying to get far in this competition!
Let's all encourage each other to reach a little further than we THINK we can!
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Nice post, Ex.
I feel daunted sometimes by the mass of verbage.
Most Texans can't read that many words in one sitting and still remember what was said.
I blame Tequila and hot sauce for that. Kinda fries your brain a bit...
:bronco
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Good news for us Canucks.
http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post (http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post)
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Good news for us Canucks.
http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post (http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post)
They could have announced this two days ago and saved a lot of frickin' headaches. >:(
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Good news for us Canucks.
http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post (http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post)
They could have announced this two days ago and saved a lot of frickin' headaches. >:(
Maybe they just decided because of all the agro ;)
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Good news for us Canucks.
Good news indeed, lots of fast Canadians. :tu
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Good news for us Canucks.
http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post (http://www.gtplanet.net/canada-joins-gt-academy-2014-north-american-region-competition-begins-april-21st/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gtplanet+%28GTPlanet%29#wp_post)
April twenty fist, awesomeness. Congrates you Cannates. It is abooot time I say.
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Sounds like the hackers might be capable of compromising the integrity of the Academy. What a shame that cheats can potentially ruin things for all involved. :-\
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I would think that, given their history which the crackers, PD has some way of separating the wheat from the chaff, here.
I don't know this for sure, of course, but they have to be confident enough to start the contest.
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Show starts tomorrow on Spike. 11:30 Eastern.
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11:30?
Is that AM or PM? Either way, that's some time slot.
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PM
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http://www.spike.com/video-clips/c1yjts/nissan-gt-academy-season-4-sneak-peek (http://www.spike.com/video-clips/c1yjts/nissan-gt-academy-season-4-sneak-peek)
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Good luck now, or more then, then now T master flash. Ogogogo!
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Round 1 of the 2015 GTA starts tomorrow, according to the GTA menu in GT6.
I'll probably be running these just to try and get the prize car, if there is one.
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Only the top 20 in the USA go on to finals this year. Then only 6 go to Silverstone and compete with folks from other regions. :P
I don't like change.
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Only the top 20 in the USA go on to finals this year. Then only 6 go to Silverstone and compete with folks from other regions. :P
I don't like change.
A lot of the people who will be in the top 20 have already been to race camp and are not eligible to go again. You may only need to be in the top 50 for a shot.
I have checked with the few aliens I know and they either have already been or will not participate. So who do we root for this year?
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I wonder when Yas Marina Circuit will debut in GT6?
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I think some around or semi around here have the skills.There have been some good battles for recent time trials among some around here and that was just for personal pride.
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No Canadians again.
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No Canadians again.
Sad to say it does look that way.
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Good luck everyone
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(http://4dsales.com/4d/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Good-Luck-Were-All-Counting-on-You1.jpg)
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haha... I'm hoping to maybe get my CPX adapter to use my fanatec pedals with my TR300RS wheel, before this is all over.
Going back to use the DFGT is just very frustrating and does not provide the joy it did before I knew how much better a wheel could be. If I get to do the final round stuff, I'll be happy to just try and improve a little over last year.
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Since Japan is in this year, maybe we should root for samurai_405. He's been around a long time. ^-^
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No Canadians again.
I checked with PDI again and this time I got somewhat of an answer - the choice of who gets to participate is up to NISSAN, not PDI. In fact, the way it was worded led me to believe that NISSAN could use other racing sims to do that same thing. It's PDI's product that is being used as the medium for the program.
So if anyone has contacts with NISSAN, maybe we can get an answer as to why Canadians were dropped.
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Academy is most likely simply run by a marketing firm.
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I really dislike Silverstone. Ran 3 laps, Bronze on the first one, invalid on the next two. Shutdown it down, switched over to GTA V and shot some people in the face.
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I really dislike Silverstone. Ran 3 laps, Bronze on the first one, invalid on the next two. Shutdown it down, switched over to GTA V and shot some people in the face.
I like Silverstone but over the years PD has stuffed Nissan down our throats not that I was terribly fond of bloated all wheel drive cars to begin with. And this GTR for the opening round feels fat and with the AWD it just feels like it is not very light on it's feet. I did my time in it can move on to next round when it opens. But we are likely to just get something similar so I probably will be un-enthused then too. Tonight instead of trying to whittle my 2:08.3 down to a more respectable time I fired up A Corsa and ran the Radical at Mid Ohio with nothing more to gain from it than the sheer joy of enjoying the drive. Got out of the rig happy as a clam.
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I really dislike Silverstone. Ran 3 laps, Bronze on the first one, invalid on the next two. Shutdown it down, switched over to GTA V and shot some people in the face.
I like Silverstone but over the years PD has stuffed Nissan down our throats not that I was terribly fond of bloated all wheel drive cars to begin with. And this GTR for the opening round feels fat and with the AWD it just feels like it is not very light on it's feet. I did my time in it can move on to next round when it opens. But we are likely to just get something similar so I probably will be un-enthused then too. Tonight instead of trying to whittle my 2:08.3 down to a more respectable time I fired up A Corsa and ran the Radical at Mid Ohio with nothing more to gain from it than the sheer joy of enjoying the drive. Got out of the rig happy as a clam.
Nissan GT Academy. Plus it is all run by the Marketing division. You know. (insert Blazing Saddles pie video reference here) The marketing division of any company are usually high paid and know absolutely nothing about the actual product or service they are hawking at the time. It is just typical sales hype.
For that reason I think we should understand and relax. Don't let it bother you, but if you just can't seem to let the angst go, then by all means you should be sending middle finger Instagram pic's @ somebodywhocares@nissan.com
Yes I know that addy don't wok or work. I think for you and me the world has changed. It is not what it should or was or could have been. It now, is what it is.
The reality is Nissan hires a marketing firm and away it goes, gone. And here we are. ^-^
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Yup, it is what it is. I know I will never get to England and only want to stay near the top of my friends list. I have fast friends, so I won't be first there, either.
Get my money, get some needed miles in, stay happy.
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the car selection (in the past) has been more than just marketing, except for the obvious fact that they stick to Nissan cars. They also seem to have something specific to teach drivers in each academy round, and the car fits with what they wish to teach.
The tests seem to be a series of "well, can you drive like this? And this, and this? Okay, maybe we'd be interested in putting you in a real car..."
This is part of the reason we see shittier tires and car setups that don't "jive" very well with some players. It's a test of what you can handle and still shave off time week after week. That's the kind of thing they are looking for in the National Finals too - to improve a bit over the week, and to have all situations thrown at the driver to test them.
To me, there is engineering of a race driver happening at every stage/round of Academy. Sure, the marketers have their say, but the race division of Nissan clearly has refined their methods because I don't think they've been entirely happy with the graduates 100% of the time. They want a better chance of having THE race driver of the future emerge from the program, and not just flash the Nissan symbol on everything. Though, both are complimentary ;)
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Yup, it is what it is. I know I will never get to England and only want to stay near the top of my friends list. I have fast friends, so I won't be first there, either.
Get my money, get some needed miles in, stay happy.
I guess for me I could never be happy with GT Academy as long as Nissan is the primary sponsor. In real life if someone gave me $50,000 and said I could either buy a car or use it as the down payment on a car but it could only be used for a car. I would not consider for a single second anything from Nissan. The only car from them that holds even the remotest interest from me is the 370Z. Most of what they make is either too pedestrian, who remembers the Leaf challenge last year, or too heavy and impure of driving experience. Is it amazing that they can get a car so large to perform the way it does? Yes but it lacks appeal to the driver in me. This article (http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/features/a24927/when-it-comes-to-miata-horsepower-155-is-enough/?mag=roa&click=yr) about the new Miata expresses it better than I can. Back to my main point which is there is little from Nissan that excites the driver in me. So to get through a series of challenges with only their products is little to no fun. I have done fairly decent at recent time trial challenges and managed to find some fun even when the car, track or tire choice is not to my liking. But these Academy ones go so against the grain for me that I cannot get past it.
Not that I ever thought I could be one of the top performers anyhow and even if that were possible I do not think anyone is looking for a heavy middle aged guy to start a new career in auto racing. But I wished I could at least find some enjoyment to them. As it stands unless another manufacturer were the sponsor I don't see it as a possibility.
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Academy is a strange one this year. It seems rather than excitement from world participants they have managed to invoke anger.
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Academy is a strange one this year. It seems rather than excitement from world participants they have managed to invoke anger.
Or perhaps general lack of interest. This may be the first year that I don't participate at all. I don't necessarily care that its all Nissan's given its really their event not PD's. But, I'd prefer to do just about anything in GT6 over driving a GTR at Silverstone or any other track for that matter....
That reminds me I guess its about time I broke down and finished those hit the cone events. Hmmm might as well attempt the drift stuff while I'm at it. Or on second thought maybe I'll just go dig a hole in Minecraft.
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Academy is a strange one this year. It seems rather than excitement from world participants they have managed to invoke anger.
I am not angry but I cannot speak for others nor have I read too many other reactions outside of the Tunaverse. And to be fair I have felt this way most years as Nissans have not held appeal for me since they were called Datsuns.
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Academy is a strange one this year. It seems rather than excitement from world participants they have managed to invoke anger.
I am not angry but I cannot speak for others nor have I read too many other reactions outside of the Tunaverse. And to be fair I have felt this way most years as Nissans have not held appeal for me since they were called Datsuns.
Yes I was speaking of all the negative posts at the planet.
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let's not forget, that Nissan is going to want to find drivers who can deal with all of this marketing, corporate bullshit. Maybe part of the plan? Possibly.
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Anyone driven the LMP2 yet?
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Anyone driven the LMP2 yet?
I will tonight. Free Car! Just take a lap.
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Yep the car is not bad but I am just net noticing much difference between some of the cars in GT like I thought I had before. Not enough distinctive qualities. But it is an enjoyable ride if not entirely unique. Got down to :09.984 and my goal on the first day out was to make it to a podium spot on my friends list and or a 09. So I am content for now.
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Academy Rankings (http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/academy/2015/rankings/)
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enjoyed the car if not the track. Not one of my strong tracks.
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Academy Rankings (http://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/academy/2015/rankings/)
I see that "Let_Canada_In" aka Turismo_Lester is back on the list. Still scratching my head why you guys were left off after being brought on board last year.
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Was not feeling terribly sociable tonight but drove some at the academy rd 3 got down to a 2:09.012 really wanted an 8 but want to be up early tomorrow to catch Monaco. So I left it .013 short was good enough for 67nd in the US and 865rd in the world. Not going to get invited anywhere but not to shabby either.
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Was not feeling terribly sociable tonight but drove some at the academy rd 3 got down to a 2:09.012 really wanted an 8 but want to be up early tomorrow to catch Monaco. So I left it .013 short was good enough for 67nd in the US and 865rd in the world. Not going to get invited anywhere but not to shabby either.
Helluva job Baked. I hoped on yesterday to try and catch you and got nowhere but frustrated. I guess I'll save my quickness for the final round (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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Watched Monaco and thought I would try again until the 500 started. Got down to my goal and still think there is more time for me but I am fairly happy right now. Made it to a 2:08.824, puts me 52 in country and 685 in the world.
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keep goin buddy.... we want to see you running in the mud on TV (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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keep goin buddy.... we want to see you running in the mud on TV (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
I know they are not looking for some middle aged fat guy to start a new career in motorsports but it has been a fun challenge to see how far I can push myself.
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Finally decided to participate. I'm coming for ya Baked :)
*After hours of updates, apparently. :P
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Finally decided to participate. I'm coming for ya Baked :)
*After hours of updates, apparently. :P
Cool you will probably blast my time into the weeds but will be fun to see ya back out there even if only for some time trials.
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Got down to a 2:09.825 on session 1. Not sure I'll go back. AC has ruined all other racing games for me.
That's a helluva time Baked.
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Thanks Wiz just wanting to remind the world Tunas can be fairly quick. Fifth fastest fish in the oceans after all.
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I just had to give Baked something to shoot for to continue improving his times. :)
2:08.697
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I just had to give Baked something to shoot for to continue improving his times. :)
2:08.697
After hanging out with the Mrs. last night I jumped on for a few laps ran about eight or nine that were 9.1 or less but never could improve my personal best. Not giving up though. Nice lap Brindle.
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How do you sort by country for academy standings?
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How do you sort by country for academy standings?
You cannot as far as I know
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How do you sort by country for academy standings?
You cannot as far as I know
They usually have sort by country for the final round only.
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Was not feeling terribly sociable tonight but drove some at the academy rd 3 got down to a 2:09.012 really wanted an 8 but want to be up early tomorrow to catch Monaco. So I left it .013 short was good enough for 67nd in the US and 865rd in the world. Not going to get invited anywhere but not to shabby either.
This is why I'm asking.
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Go to the top, scroll down, count USA flags on your fingers & toes. :)
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Wiz is correct, well mostly I can count that high without using appendages.
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Go to the top, scroll down, count USA flags on your fingers & toes. :)
I can't get past 20. :P
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With my wife's help, I can only manage getting to 21 ;D
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I'm a huge Sarthe fan but I predict large amounts of frustration and red laps.
Not a great time trial track IMO.
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I'm a huge Sarthe fan but I predict large amounts of frustration and red laps.
Not a great time trial track IMO.
I concur
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I'm a huge Sarthe fan but I predict large amounts of frustration and red laps.
Not a great time trial track IMO.
I agree but could be worse could be Nordschlieffe.
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I think the tracks fine for LMPs (even with the draconian track boundaries) but that car...........looks like it was drawn by a 12 yr old and drives .....words fail me.
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Even though I don't play this game much, I still like to keep it up to date, and grab the free cars. This one will never be driven again, what a turd, and PD's attempt at exhaust pops are laughable. Sounded like an old dusty vinyl record. I hope that's not the work of the T10 guy. :o
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I couldn't drive the car over 80mph, my wheel (T500RS) started shaking like hell.
So I went and did the Vision race on R242 smooth as glass.
Cant believe the difference in the 2 cars as far as FFB is concerned.
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I couldn't drive the car over 80mph, my wheel (T500RS) started shaking like hell.
So I went and did the Vision race on R242 smooth as glass.
Cant believe the difference in the 2 cars as far as FFB is concerned.
I had to dial back the force feedback in my wheel. Even though i thought it was a bit much for the Academy car i think that is closer to what i expect from some of these heavy duty race cars on bumpy tracks.
My wheel has settings from 0-150 i usually run it at 120-130 for the academy i dialed down to 80 or 90 and it was still fightimg but,manageable.
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Done.
My brain is still shaking.
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Okay, so now I know what hell (not that there is that thing) will be for me. I can not even make it to Dunlap tire sign before redding the lap. I can't even count the times I have red lapped before the start finish line, because of cones or boundaries.
I am struggling with two main things. I can no longer FWD in GT6 and L space hates me.
This will take some time for me and all I want to achieve is gold. This will be rough, I already see it.
Good luck all.
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I see this will just take more time then I am used to for these. I can see the only way to turn is on throttle. So I will attack again tomorrow with a new attitude.
I'm glad I do not have to press a deploy KERS button.
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I've got a good time, in the top 10 friends, but it was a struggle.
The feedback is quite something, unusual for GT, but I have yet to reduce it.
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I couldn't drive the car over 80mph, my wheel (T500RS) started shaking like hell.
So I went and did the Vision race on R242 smooth as glass.
Cant believe the difference in the 2 cars as far as FFB is concerned.
Apparently, PDI made the LMP1 car shake our wheels because that is how the real car is.
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Here's what a 25.7 looks like...
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What the fuck is this thing about? I had more fun driving my boring Civic to Lowe's this morning than I did trying to get a good lap time in this pile.
I'm starting to think Ben Bowlby is a con artist trying to see what ridiculous things he can get automakers to actually pay money to build.
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I managed first on my friends list a few nights ago...may have been passed by now. There's probably room to improve a bit. I don't think I could beat 3:30 though
Other than the shakes, I don't find the car bad. (oh, and it doesn't take well to wide open in first gear. I do find first gear helps it turn a bit in a number of corners) It's a bit quirky, but just required a little adapting.
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very nice time Turbo. I've finally managed to get a sniff of Baked's
tailpipe time, but i think I'm close to my limit with this car.
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very nice time Turbo. I've finally managed to get a sniff of Baked's tailpipe time, but i think I'm close to my limit with this car.
Don't think I have been back since the second day it was available. May try some more but doubtful, driving without friends has not been amusing for the last little bit. :-\
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I at least have to get a lap in to get the car. I would ideally like to gold it so I have gold in all these, just in case there are giving things away. I meant to get to it over the weekend, but when I had time I did not have any motivation to get in that car.
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I did not have any motivation to get in that car.
can't offer any.. sorry
maybe free shit later as you say
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I'm getting better. Last night I made it to timing sector 2 once and sector 1 twice. ^-^ (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
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I am awaiting delivery of my CPX adapter (which will allow me to use my TR wheel with Fanatec pedals)... how much longer are these time trials open, and is this the final round yet?
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I am awaiting delivery of my CPX adapter (which will allow me to use my TR wheel with Fanatec pedals)... how much longer are these time trials open, and is this the final round yet?
This is the final round, it ends on 6/15/15. I believe the other rounds have closed and not open for entry.
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make sure you all the way round Dude so you get the car. You don't want to miss out on this fuckin gem (http://i.imgur.com/LmjyBgx.gif)
@Ex, Dude nailed it, but you can still do them for cash 'n' cars. Also I think you need to do the first 3 before you can enter the final.
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Your lap does not have to be valid to get the car. I got it with a red lap.
Le Sarthe is one of my favorite tracks, but I wasn't going to spend anymore time in that shitbox, than I had to.
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I actually enjoyed the FWD race car. It is different and not everyone's cuppa, true, but I was quick in it and it is understandable.
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I actually enjoyed the FWD race car. It is different and not everyone's cuppa, true, but I was quick in it and it is understandable.
I believe that PD really nailed the way this car actually drives. (unfortunately it drove me nuts)
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I got on GT6 for the first time in months, only to find that you cannot even do these Academy trials just for fun and to try and compare to others, since it is officially closed.
MGT... ask them... why the fuck is it still listed as an event in the game, then?
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I got on GT6 for the first time in months, only to find that you cannot even do these Academy trials just for fun and to try and compare to others, since it is officially closed.
MGT... ask them... why the fuck is it still listed as an event in the game, then?
So you can compare how well you did against your friends I would guess. I'm surprised you didn't run them even a red lap earned you a car.
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yeah, I should have just DS3'd it... It's okay, I don't think I'll miss the car much ;)
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Yeah, I am sure it is still available for access to the records.
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does this show our long unseen tuna maxking39?
https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-academy-2015-top-six-u-s-national-finalists-announced/
we may have a tuna to cheer for
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I posted a go max over at the planet, because he seemed familiar. He has not been here in a long time, but I do remember a video he posted of some of his incredible driving.
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Next week 14/15 Sept is the Indonesian Academy final being held at Sentul circuit. I will be close by so intend to stop in and check it out. Also will finally meet my Indo GT buddy omDidit in person. Don't know if a test drive in whatever itteration of GTS will be available, but I'll share what I can.
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Nothing to report. Got there for the start of day 2. They were busy for 2 hours,meeting and photos. I spent that time with GTIC_omDidit (2012 Indo champ) and a couple of other alien previous champs. Then I had to hit the road.
Did get to cruise the parking area in his R32 GTR though ......... and there was a tunnel ;D If I can figure out how to get a photo from my phone to here I'll put a pic in Cool rides
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Nothing to report. Got there for the start of day 2. They were busy for 2 hours,meeting and photos. I spent that time with GTIC_omDidit (2012 Indo champ) and a couple of other alien previous champs. Then I had to hit the road.
Did get to cruise the parking area in his R32 GTR though ......... and there was a tunnel ;D If I can figure out how to get a photo from my phone to here I'll put a pic in Cool rides
Impressive