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Online Events => Other Online Events => Topic started by: RoninTuna on April 28, 2011, 01:21:48 PM
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I am preparing some recon races for a potential regular event. I am hoping that these can become a regular sanctioned tuna event. These races are not going to be as regular as you are accustomed but they will have regularity in their own right. What I am preparing right now are celebratory races based on big names in the automotive and racing industries. Right now I have two races planned out and ready to be announced and more will come as my research continues. These races will have a set date with no rain dates, meaning if something is a miss like a network failure there will be no rescheduling for the event.
Right now I am uncertain as to if it's worth the effort to come up with a full 52 race schedule (One a week) so I may end up working a 12 race schedule (One a month). The level of participation in the recon races will determine the number of races I come up with for this. Should we decide that these races do become a "Regular Tuna Event" they will be annual and the schedule will simply rotate back to the beginning with the new year with little to no change to the individual events.
So far based on a 12 race schedual, I am thinking:
Michael Schumacher - January 3 - Ferrari formula 1 for 91 laps at Monaco (1 lap for every carreer win)
Enzo Ferrari - February 18 - Ferrari Enzo for 114 laps at Rome (1 lap for every year since his birth)
Nicola Larini - March 19 - Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI '93 for Laps and track TBD
Dale Earnhardt - April 29 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=306.0) - Buick GNX for 76 at Daytona Super Speedway (1 lap for every carreer win)
Tony Stewart - May 20 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=315.0) - 2010 Tony Stewart #14 IMPALA for 54 laps at Indianapolis (1 lap for every carreer win)
Tsugio Matsuda - June 18 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=383.0) - Calsonic Impul GTR '08 for 32 laps at Suzuka (1 lap for every year since his birth)
Richard Petty - July 2 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=548.0) - Plymouth Superbird for 200 laps at Daytona Super Speedway (1 lap for every carreer win)
Jackie Oliver - August 14 (http://www.supatunagt.com/smf/index.php?topic=550.0) - Ford GT-40 for 69 laps at Sarth (1 lap for every year since his birth)
Ron Fellows - September 28 - Corvette ZR-1 RM for 52 laps at Laguna Seca (1 lap for every year since his birth)
Peter Dumbreck - October 13 - Mercedes CLK Touring car for 37 laps at Nurbergring GP/D (1 lap for every year since his birth)
Markko Märtin - November 10 - Ford Focus Rally Car '99 for 18 laps at various dirt tracks (1 Lap for every carreer Podium)
Manabu Orido - December 3 - Wedsoport IS350 '08 for 44 laps at Fuji (1 lap for every year since his birth)
For the record, I do think that 52 endurance races a year might be a little much, but for the sake of being theurough I'm going to go a head and put up slots for a 52 week season. (Largely due to a bunch of the people I look at overlapping but still.....)
52 race potentials:
January
1 Michael Schumacher (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Schumacher) - 1/3
2 Carroll Shelby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carroll_Shelby) - 1/11
3 A. J. Foyt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Foyt) - 1/16
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February
1
2
3 Enzo Ferrari (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzo_Ferrari) - 2/18
4
March
1
2
3 Nicola Larini (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Larini) - 3/19 (actual car in game)
4 Danica Patrick (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danica_Patrick) - 3/25
April
1
2 Jacques Villeneuve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Villeneuve) - 4/9
3
4 Dale Earnhardt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dale_Earnhardt) - 4/29
May
1
2 Sabine Schmitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Schmitz) - 5/14
3 Tony Stewart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Stewart) - 5/20 (actual car in game)
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June
1
2
3 Tsugio Matsuda (http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/Tsugio-Matsuda-,501.html) - 6/18 (actual car in game X2 maybe more)
4
July
1 Richard Petty (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Petty) - 7/2
2
3
4 Henry Ford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford) - 7/30
August
1 Masahiko Kageyama (http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/Masahiko-Kageyama-,404.html) - 8/8 (actual car in game X4 maybe more)
2 Jackie Oliver (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackie_Oliver) - 8/14 (actual car in game)
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4
September
1
2 Ettore Bugatti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ettore_Bugatti) - 9/15
3
4 Ron Fellows (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Fellows) - 9/28
October
1 Tetsuya Yamano (http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/Tetsuya-Yamano-,1049.html) - 10/2 (actual car in game)
2 Peter Dumbreck (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dumbreck) - 10/13 (actual car in game X2)
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4
November
1
2 Markko Märtin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markko_M%C3%A4rtin) - 11/10
3
4
December
1 Manabu Orido (http://www.speedsport-magazine.com/race-driver-database/biography/Manabu-Orido-,1055.html) - 12/3 (Actual Car in game)
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Intriguing? 8)
Got anymore info you can share? What type of races? (rally, snow, tarmac) Racing for points or FUN?
(http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss272/james_mikel/STGT/spongebob-smokes-weed.jpg)
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What type of races? (rally, snow, tarmac)
It will vary, the two recon races I just posted are both from Nascar so it's tarmac, but not all will be from Nascar so it'll change appropriately. Richard Petty's Birthday...Super bird at Daytona, Tommy Makinin... Lancer Evos on dirt, Enzo Ferrari ...Ferraris at Rome, that kind of thing.
Racing for points or FUN?
Racing for the sole purpose of racing, no points involved.
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this^
I like the idea.
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I edited the original post and added what I currently have in mind.
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March = Danica Patrick??
You know Arton Senna and Cale Yarborough were both born in march. Hell I would rather race in honor of Speed Racer than Danica.
Try this link: http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html (http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html)
You can search for Auto racers by month.
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March = Danica Patrick??
You know Arton Senna and Cale Yarborough were both born in march. Hell I would rather race in honor of Speed Racer than Danica.
Try this link: http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html (http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html)
You can search for Auto racers by month.
There is also the element of having cars appropriate to the drivers within the game, it was for that reason I steered clear of both Cale Yarborough and Arton Senna. Arton Senna drove most notably for McLaren F1 and Yarborough for various makes. Asside from the Olds none of them have acceptable body doubles.
Your position on racing for the march race did not escape me during my preliminalry research as I assume you are not alone with that position, I had a backup driver just incase. Nicola Larini was also born in march, he was the one who made the Alfa Romeo 155 V6 TI famous.
I will take a look through that site you linked, looks like it could be useful.
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I was also thinking about Ettore Bugatti for September...but 130 laps at Sarth seems....inappropriate.
I also wanted to to do something for Alois Ruf Sr. but I can not seem to find his birthday.
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March = Danica Patrick??
You know Ayrton Senna and Cale Yarborough were both born in march. Hell I would rather race in honor of Speed Racer than Danica.
Try this link: http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html (http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html)
You can search for Auto racers by month.
Though I agree with your points. (I grew up watching Cale race on Wild World of Sports on Saturday afternoons. He's an ICON.) We also have an obligation to be equal opportunity.
If you look at the stats for the site, we have a 15:1 male to female ratio (and it is only counting the ones who indicated on their profile... I propose that for Cobra Girl and maybe even the Amish dentist; we celebrate our Tuna gender diversity by celebrating Danica Patrick -- or even Janet Guthrie. (probably get better pics posted with Danica, though Janet is cooler) I think we should celebrate at least one female with the series...
I plan to be around a while, maybe the next March we celebrate CY and A...
IMHO YMMV
Judith: (on Stan's desire to be a mother) Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
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March = Danica Patrick??
You know Ayrton Senna and Cale Yarborough were both born in march. Hell I would rather race in honor of Speed Racer than Danica.
Try this link: http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html (http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html)
You can search for Auto racers by month.
Though I agree with your points. (I grew up watching Cale race on Wild World of Sports on Saturday afternoons. He's an ICON.) We also have an obligation to be equal opportunity.
If you look at the stats for the site, we have a 15:1 male to female ratio (and it is only counting the ones who indicated on their profile... I propose that for Cobra Girl and maybe even the Amish dentist; we celebrate our Tuna gender diversity by celebrating Danica Patrick -- or even Janet Guthrie. (probably get better pics posted with Danica, though Janet is cooler) I think we should celebrate at least one female with the series...
I plan to be around a while, maybe the next March we celebrate CY and A...
IMHO YMMV
Judith: (on Stan's desire to be a mother) Here! I've got an idea: Suppose you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb - which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' - but that he can have the *right* to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother... sister, sorry.
Reg: What's the *point*?
Francis: What?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies, when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.
Personally I like Danica, She is hot and drives a race car....Epic win in my book. However, She like Dale Earnhardt has a sizable anti-fanbase, it was for that reason I had a backup handy. May not have been ready but handy none the less, Still a year to figure out the details so we'll see where it goes. I may even go back to Danica if it seems appropriate, but then again I would like to try to restrict the Nascar events a little bit. I noticed Tony Stewarts birthday with the link Sniper provided and Tony's seems more appropriate given Tony's actual car is in the game, ironically the track and car manufacturer are the same giving me another justification to pull Danica down infavor of the backup from the old DTM.
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If you need a back-up for january,
Jacky Ickx, born of the first of january in Brussels.
His best remembered race was the 24h of Le Mans of '69 in a Gulf livery Ford GT40. A Legendary Le Mans race where Ickx started last intentionally and still managed to finish first, although his Ford GT40 was outperformed by the newer Porsches and Ferrari's.
During the last hour of that race, Ickx in his GT40 and Hans Hermann in a Porsche 908 overtook eachother several times, as the newer Porsche had less drag and thus better speed on the straights, but had to brake sooner due to worn out brake pads.
They finished with just 110 metres margin.
If you ask me, this would be an even better race than Schumacher. Schumi never drove either of the Formula one cars, just the predecessors of them. The GT40 that Ickx drove IS in GT5 and is a prize car for the B-spec indy500 so almost everyone has is in their garage.
Just an idea of course. I figured it was worth mentioning.
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If you need a back-up for january,
Jacky Ickx, born of the first of january in Brussels.
His best remembered race was the 24h of Le Mans of '69 in a Gulf livery Ford GT40. A Legendary Le Mans race where Ickx started last intentionally and still managed to finish first, although his Ford GT40 was outperformed by the newer Porsches and Ferrari's.
During the last hour of that race, Ickx in his GT40 and Hans Hermann in a Porsche 908 overtook eachother several times, as the newer Porsche had less drag and thus better speed on the straights, but had to brake sooner due to worn out brake pads.
They finished with just 110 metres margin.
If you ask me, this would be an even better race than Schumacher. Schumi never drove either of the Formula one cars, just the predecessors of them. The GT40 that Ickx drove IS in GT5 and is a prize car for the B-spec indy500 so almost everyone has is in their garage.
Just an idea of course. I figured it was worth mentioning.
Yes, worth mentioning indeed. To be honest with you, Schumacher was one of the first three people on my list to add (First two being Earnhardt and Petty). This was largely due to the fact I did follow him for a wile, I'm not going to lie and say I was all up and up with F1 muchless Ferrari F1, but when I did manage to catch a race it was Schumacher and Barrichello that I watched, I even saw the 2002 Austria race, I lost a lot of respect for Ferrari there, but I digress.
Where was I, Oh yeah, Schumacher is one I definately want. You do make a very valid point with Ickx, the GT-40 in the game was the car he drove. With a little further research I see his co-driver from that season was born in August. His ten year carrer did not yield spactacular numbers but that could actually be a good thing.
Would Ickx's co-driver's birthday be an acceptable compromize? This would give us...say...51 laps in the GT-40 at Sarth on August 14.
I had originally considered the GT-40 for Henry Fords birthday, but Ford's birthday falls in the same month at Petty's and was dropped due to that. Since then I have been wanting to figure out a way to get a Sarth race as well as a GT-40 race, this would be two birds one stone and one of the more appropriate exicutions of the idea.
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Just another thought, I don't get the feeling that many people here enjoy driving the Formula 1 cars. I'd like a chance to race them but I don't think many share that view.
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Just another thought, I don't get the feeling that many people here enjoy driving the Formula 1 cars. I'd like a chance to race them but I don't think many share that view.
I understand that view completely, That is why there is only the one F1 race. I did not want to overdo it with the F1's but at the same time I do want a chance to run them. Even if it does come up to the 52 race sequence there would only be one F1 race or I would atleast try to keep it at one. Should we decide this to become a full fledged tuna event, once a year is not too much to ask for I feel.
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Would Ickx's co-driver's birthday be an acceptable compromize?
Well, no need for compromise since it wasn't a demand. Merely a suggestion.
But after all, it comes to the same thing: GT40's at La Sarthe. So there's no reason not to agree.
51 is the amount of wins Jackie Oliver had in his F1 career. In Le Mans, he only participated three times. Perhaps it's more suitable to pick his age? (69)
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Would Ickx's co-driver's birthday be an acceptable compromize?
Well, no need for compromise since it wasn't a demand. Merely a suggestion.
But after all, it comes to the same thing: GT40's at La Sarthe. So there's no reason not to agree.
51 is the amount of wins Jackie Oliver had in his F1 career. In Le Mans, he only participated three times. Perhaps it's more suitable to pick his age? (69)
Well, actually I gathered the 51 from the number of races he participated in through out his carreer. I have no qualms going with his age, so it shall be.
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69 laps at La Sarthe? Really, how many hours is that?
Indy Road or Indy Oval?
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69 laps at La Sarthe? Really, how many hours is that?
I'd guess a little over 5 hours.
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69 laps at La Sarthe? Really, how many hours is that?
Indy Road or Indy Oval?
with out an actual lap time with the Ford GT-40...Based on an estimated three minuet laps it'll run about three and three quarter hours. Considering I'm looking at running these races with the standard "7-11" time frame gives a full four hours to work with. These races are intended to be longer than what we've been working with. I have been asking for longer races for some time and it apperes that the only way that is going to happen is if I draw up the race criteria. There are other driver stats that I can generate lap counts from, Lets see where it goes for now, but suffice it to say it'll be more than five should it be decreased. Additionally Sarth was chosen because that is the track where that driver partisipated in their most notible race with the chosen car, Additionally Indy is already at risk of overuse, I've pulled and or changed it from four different spots already.
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No chicane at Sarthe?
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No chicane at Sarthe?
Correct, No chicane.
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with out an actual lap time with the Ford GT-40
Assuming you're talking about the '69 race car, I just run a few laps at about 3'35 ish. With pit stops I'd say you're looking at a little over 4 hours.
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This all looks interesting, and great theme. I haven't run the 2007 F1 in GT5 tho it was ok in GT5P, I do not like the 2010 at all, need to save 20mil before you get to that race. The Gt40 run at Sarthe sounds like a blast... looking forward to driving the gnarly thing there
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with out an actual lap time with the Ford GT-40
Assuming you're talking about the '69 race car, I just run a few laps at about 3'35 ish. With pit stops I'd say you're looking at a little over 4 hours.
Ok, Still plenty of time before that one comes up. We have some time to play it by ear and see what everyone thinks.
This all looks interesting, and great theme. I haven't run the 2007 F1 in GT5 tho it was ok in GT5P, I do not like the 2010 at all, need to save 20mil before you get to that race. The Gt40 run at Sarthe sounds like a blast... looking forward to driving the gnarly thing there
Well, it's only April, the F1 car would not be needed until January, there is plenty of time.
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Awesome.... of this assumes that the network will be back up by then :D
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Ok, Still plenty of time before that one comes up. We have some time to play it by ear and see what everyone thinks.
Oh I know, it was just something for me to do. Not being able to race online, I'm bored out of my :fuck ing mind! :)
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Awesome.... of this assumes that the network will be back up by then :D
With still 21 days to go until the next birthday, I think we can be pretty certain that either the PSN will be up again, or it will be ditched for the rest of eternity.
PSN has been down for roughly two weeks now. I don't think they can afford another three weeks of downtime.
I hope to be participating the events of July, August and September. Perhaps, if the date in June is late and my exams end early this year, I could join the June event. However, I have no certainty at all about that.
Of course, this is granted that I'm able to use my left leg again by then.
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Of course, this is granted that I'm able to use my left leg again by then
What happened to you leg Rag?
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Damnit, Looking into Reeves Callaway and Alois Ruf all direct me to the companies and not the men them selves.... :-\ . Carroll Shelby, Henry Ford, Louis Chevrolet and Ettore Bugatti have information available but show problems in scedualing. I may have to pull Enzo Ferrari in favor of a driver and just leave out manufacturer founders all together.
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What happened to you leg Rag?
Well, it's my knee actually. My kneecap got dislocated for a moment, ripping a ligament that's supposed to keep it in place. Then the kneecap popped back into place, but while doing so it got stuck behind my bone, which caused a piece of the kneecap to break off. On top of that, the cartilage in my knees is severely damaged.
I've had surgery 2 weeks ago and will see the surgeon next Tuesday for a checkup. If things look alright, I'm facing a 5 month revalidation before I'll be able to walk properly again. If things look bad, I need another surgery and nobody knows how long it'll take to get back in shape if that happens.
But so far, I'm not allowed to bend my leg. I need to keep it stretched.
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Ouch!!!!! Good luck with your recovery buddy
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How about Sabine Schmitz for the female drivers? Maybe a "Queen of the Ring" event. I don't know much about her actual racing career or her birth date, but she seems pretty cool.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Schmitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Schmitz)
Sabine is supercool
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M5's at the Nordschleife to honour Sabine, that would be nice.
But apparently May is taken by some NASCAR driver.
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Well, May may be set right now, but by all means keep recomending drivers. Keep in mind, we're still on the drawing board and the races set right now are majoritively recon to garner partisipation potenital. Like I said in the OP if it shows to be worth the effort to come up with 52 races, we can. Sabine looks like a great female entry for what could be week two in May should we go to a 52 race schedual. M5's at the Nordschleife would be an an interesting race.
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March = Danica Patrick??
You know Arton Senna and Cale Yarborough were both born in march. Hell I would rather race in honor of Speed Racer than Danica.
Try this link: http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html (http://www.famouswhy.com/Born_Today/Month/5.html)
You can search for Auto racers by month.
OH I'M SO ABOUT THIS!
I'm more than in should there be one to honor the late Peter Fernandez - the voice of Speed from the Cartoons. He passed just a few days before I could meet him at Otakon...
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I've made some major amendments to the OP. I'm hoping maybe this could help expidite the research a little bit. I still have a few people I have to go back and retrieve birthdate information for but still. I do mention that I think that 52 endurance races a year might be a little much but I would like to keep an open mind about it and keep it within the relm of possibility.
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Suggestion Ronin... Stefan Bellof... 20 Nov 57 - 1 Sept 85 died in a crash at Spa Francochamps but had an amazing career
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Suggestion Ronin... Stefan Bellof... 20 Nov 57 - 1 Sept 85 died in a crash at Spa Francochamps but had an amazing career
We'll need an appropriate car in the game. with that figured out it could be another Nordschleife race.
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I've added a few more names to the big list.
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Gilles Villeneuve, January 18, 1950 – May 8, 1982. Racing for Ferrari when he died at the Belgian GP.
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Gilles Villeneuve, January 18, 1950 – May 8, 1982. Racing for Ferrari when he died at the Belgian GP.
Villeneuve is definately worth mentioning, Sadly he is also (and most notably) an F1 driver making for two formula races in January. I looked over the wikipedia page on himand he drag raced a 67 mustang for a wile but....a race based on that might be a bit of a streach.
That does remind me of another favorite driver of mine in his son for a possible second week of April, He drove a 908 HDi FAP at Le Mans in 2007, it's not one of the ones depicted in the game but it's a possibility to consider.
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Damn you Sony
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I'm test driving the 908 now and I'm liking it (tho it's better after RKM tune from the planet). Who's the driver Ronin?
edit.. tuner name
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I'm test driving the 908 now and I'm liking it (tho it's better after PKR tune from the planet). Who's the driver Ronin?
Well, this 908 HDi FAP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jacques_Villeneuve_P908_24hmanstest01.JPG) was driven by Jacques Villeneuve, Marc Gené and Nicolas Minassian. Granted it's not the one depicted in the game but it'll provide an additional chance to get the DLMP's out.
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Down with that, (see edit for tuner name)
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Damn you Sony
Yeah, Sony has a bunch of FUCKING (http://i813.photobucket.com/albums/zz58/JasherX/00a%20Wily%20E%20Coyote/wile7-1.png)es working for them. :palm
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Hey Ronin, how about AJ Foyt? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Foyt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Foyt)
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Hey Ronin, how about AJ Foyt? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Foyt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._J._Foyt)
I'll definately dig into that. I'll look over his carreer information and see what I can come up with.
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With a little scrambling and some help from my brother I have come up with a June race. It's been a pain in the ass trying to come up with chances to run some JGTC's. Largely due to Wikipedia having little to nothing on the drivers. After Confirming atleast two of Matsuda's cars it should get a whole lot easier lol.
*EDIT*
A twelve race scedual is now full.....Once the PSM comes back up lets see if after a few races are run if it'll be worth wile to fill it out to a weekly.
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Check the details of the individual GT500 cars. Most, if not all, give the drivers names for the particular season(s) they drove the car.
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Check the details of the individual GT500 cars. Most, if not all, give the drivers names for the particular season(s) they drove the car.
Yup, that is what I did after I noticed it. The premium GT300's have them too, as well as some of the DLMP's. I'll be going over more of the race cars as time goes by.
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How about a Greg Moore memorial race? He raced Indy but started off with go-karts. It could either be April for his birthday or October for his death.
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How about a Greg Moore memorial race? He raced Indy but started off with go-karts. It could either be April for his birthday or October for his death.
Man...This would be a hell of a lot easier if PD would recognize IRL and the Champ cars...
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Yes I got my hopes up when I heard the rumour IRL/Champ cars were going to be included. Hey my car number is 99 just like Greg. I would love to see the Toronto track in the game, forget about those also ran Vancouver , Edmonton and Montreal Blahhhhh :P ;)
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Going through and putting a couple of these races into the site calender I have come to the conclution to keep the Sarth race 51 laps as opposed to the 69 we had been considering. My reason for doing so is, this race is going to fall between double work shifts for me meaning the race won't be started untill after 2:00PM eastern at the earliest and has to be concluded by 10:00 PM eastern. The shorter race allows for a later start time so the west coasters are not trying to get up at some god forsaken hour on their day off just to run a four hour race.