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Gran Turismo => General Gran Turismo => Topic started by: Boston77Bruins on April 21, 2015, 02:34:50 PM

Title: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Boston77Bruins on April 21, 2015, 02:34:50 PM
I have one more odd job (gutters to clean for a lady) and I will almost have enough money for a new wheel.  Well, sort of.  I'm still very short of any Thrustmaster wheel, but I think I can get a Fanatec.  That is, if they stay at the prices they are now and if they are any good.  Damn, I hope so.  I'm tired and I'm tired of being on peoples roofs near dark.  I need a few hours to do nothing.

I know its an older wheel but the Fanatec Porsche GT3 RS V2 Wheel is $179.00 currently.
If I buy the adapter for my Logitech pedals it'll add $5.00 to the price.
They also have a bundle.  The same wheel as above plus the CSR Pedals for $229.00.  I'd save $30.00 buy buying them together.

But, I have reserves.  I don't know anything about the wheel or the pedals.  I would really appreciate any tips or knowledge or advice on these products that you might have.  For some reason I have in my mind that the pedals are shit.  Reliability issues???

Thanks guys!!!
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on April 21, 2015, 03:08:44 PM
I have one more odd job (gutters to clean for a lady) and I will almost have enough money for a new wheel.  Well, sort of.  I'm still very short of any Thrustmaster wheel, but I think I can get a Fanatec.  That is, if they stay at the prices they are now and if they are any good.  Damn, I hope so.  I'm tired and I'm tired of being on peoples roofs near dark.  I need a few hours to do nothing.

I know its an older wheel but the Fanatec Porsche GT3 RS V2 Wheel is $179.00 currently.
If I buy the adapter for my Logitech pedals it'll add $5.00 to the price.
They also have a bundle.  The same wheel as above plus the CSR Pedals for $229.00.  I'd save $30.00 buy buying them together.

But, I have reserves.  I don't know anything about the wheel or the pedals.  I would really appreciate any tips or knowledge or advice on these products that you might have.  For some reason I have in my mind that the pedals are shit.  Reliability issues???

Thanks guys!!!

I really enjoyed my GT2 (GT2 Xbox compatible, GT3 not) Wheel and felt it was a step above my G25.

Those are good prices. As you can see the adaptor for G25/27 pedals is already included.
What's included
Porsche 911 GT3 RS force feedback racing wheel with belt drive
Quick guide
Power supply
ClubSport Shifter Paddle Aluminum
USB cable (1.8 m/5.9 ft.)
G25/G27 pedal adapter cable (15 cm/6 in.)

I don't think the CSR pedals would be any better than your G27 pedals, but if you go CSR Elites then you step up to a load cell brake and once you go load cell you'll never go back.

Also, this is a useful link Wiz posted at PC help here http://www.fanatec.com/us-en/support/faq/details&id=37
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Wiz on April 21, 2015, 03:15:05 PM
My 2 cents....

Save a few more bucks and get the CSR wheel and buy the pedal adapter.  The CSR wheel has more features than the Porsche wheel.

The standard CSR pedals aren't any better than your Logitech pedals.  I'd get the pedal adapter if I were you.

I've had my CSR for 3 or 4 years now and only had one problem.  The directional stick stopped working.  I used it a lot though, so I wouldn't call it a fault of the wheel.  Fanatec sent me a new board and it was easy to replace.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on April 21, 2015, 03:18:08 PM
My 2 cents....

Save a few more bucks and get the CSR wheel and buy the pedal adapter.  The CSR wheel has more features than the Porsche wheel.

The standard CSR pedals aren't any better than your Logitech pedals.  I'd get the pedal adapter if I were you.

I've had my CSR for 3 or 4 years now and only had one problem.  The directional stick stopped working.  I used it a lot though, so I wouldn't call it a fault of the wheel.  Fanatec sent me a new board and it was easy to replace.

The CSR (Xbox 360 compatible) is $199.00 and the GT3 is $180.00. I totally agree on pedals.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on April 21, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
I have one more odd job (gutters to clean for a lady) and I will almost have enough money for a new wheel.  Well, sort of.  I'm still very short of any Thrustmaster wheel, but I think I can get a Fanatec.  That is, if they stay at the prices they are now and if they are any good.  Damn, I hope so.  I'm tired and I'm tired of being on peoples roofs near dark.  I need a few hours to do nothing.

I know its an older wheel but the Fanatec Porsche GT3 RS V2 Wheel is $179.00 currently.
If I buy the adapter for my Logitech pedals it'll add $5.00 to the price.
They also have a bundle.  The same wheel as above plus the CSR Pedals for $229.00.  I'd save $30.00 buy buying them together.

But, I have reserves.  I don't know anything about the wheel or the pedals.  I would really appreciate any tips or knowledge or advice on these products that you might have.  For some reason I have in my mind that the pedals are shit.  Reliability issues???

Thanks guys!!!

I have had 4 wheels a DFGT (stock pedals) great starter set to see how interested I was in this online racing stuff. Then I stepped up to a G27 (stock pedals) felt better but the gear noise on bumpy tracks got to me after some time of owning them. Then I stepped up wearily to a CSR (with Clubsport pedals) and was extremely happy that I had. But then a few months later my beautiful sweet kind wife suggested I make the big and possibly final leap to the Clubsport Wheel and it has been fanfuckingtastic.

If I were you and looking to keep to a budget, which I would have had my beautiful sweet kind wife not been so encouraging to invest in my hobby, I would go with the CSR wheel Logitech pedal adapter then down the line step up to a set of CSR Elite pedals or look into a Ricmotech load cell conversion kit for the current G27 pedals.
http://www.ricmotech.com/Load_Cell_Upgrade_Kit_for_Logitech_G25_G27_Pedals_p/rmt-lc27.htm

I am a cheap bastard I would probably still be using my DFGT if not for Mrs Baked, my wife balances us out as a couple. Man did I pick a good one.

EDIT: After having looked at the price of the mod kit $130 and the cost of CSR Elite pedals $150 I would likely make the choice of going with the Elites. But the main point is to go with a load cell for the brake pedal. When the time comes to take that step. A upgraded set of pedals can make a bigger difference in lap times than an upgraded wheel. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on April 22, 2015, 04:32:53 PM
Here's a link to a planet thread all about wheels.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-ultimate-force-feedback-wheel-buyers-guide-for-game-consoles-ps4-xbox-one-ps3-xbox-360.318002/
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: nosoks on April 22, 2015, 08:00:05 PM
I am a cheap bastard I would probably still be using my DFGT if not for Mrs Baked, my wife balances us out as a couple. Man did I pick a good one.

 :stoopid:



having a great wife is great. Having had one who was a crazy bitch  less than perfect a crazy bitch, the great one I got now is the only reason I'm still in this shithole country
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on April 22, 2015, 10:32:45 PM
All right, I can place this here so all can comment. Feel free to voice your advice.

I have a wheel for Boston only right now. I have Fanatec (https://www.fanatec.com/) GT 2 wheel. It is just over one year old, I had to RMA it in march. It had wheel rim alcantra stitching issues and the left wheel paddle shiftier switch failed. Both now are better then before they were replaced. The wheel is solid, all the buttons work, the rim cover is tighter then new. Then I have a set of Fanatec (http://) CSR Elite pedals. (disclosure:I have separated the pedals from their base. The base is very heavy. (No problem to reassemble base and pedals) clutch, brake and throttle, similar to G25/7 pedals removed from housing. If so you are gold. If not not, I can reassemble it all no problem.

Wheel and CSR Elite pedals (with a back up load cell) for $225 (plus freight, which you can arrange if you want). I agree with Baked, load cell is the way to go for braking. I think at worst you keep the rock solid pedals and use them with whatever wheel you like.

Cheers

Edit: I put the pedals back on the base tonight.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 23, 2015, 07:15:57 AM
I really like my CSR Elites, too.  Not a bad investment, except that they alone cost what my whole DFGT kit cost.  But as baked suggested, a DFGT is only good for introduction to virtual racing.  I didn't think my new wheel would be 10x better than DFGT, but it really is and it's like banging a hot super model and going back to that first ugly chick you banged and not being totally satisfied.   :'(
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on April 23, 2015, 08:07:52 AM
All right, I can place this here so all can comment. Feel free to voice your advice.

I have a wheel for Boston only right now. I have Fanatec (https://www.fanatec.com/) GT 2 wheel. It is just over one year old, I had to RMA it in march. It had wheel rim alcantra stitching issues and the left wheel paddle shiftier switch failed. Both now are better then before they were replaced. The wheel is solid, all the buttons work, the rim cover is tighter then new. Then I have a set of Fanatec (http://) CSR Elite pedals. (disclosure:I have separated the pedals from their base. The base is very heavy. (No problem to reassemble base and pedals) clutch, brake and throttle, similar to G25/7 pedals removed from housing. If so you are gold. If not not, I can reassemble it all no problem.

Wheel and CSR Elite pedals (with a back up load cell) for $225 (plus freight, which you can arrange if you want). I agree with Baked, load cell is the way to go for braking. I think at worst you keep the rock solid pedals and use them with whatever wheel you like.

Cheers

Very nice offer there Dude.I am fairly certain that wheel is very similar to the CSR which was a good wheel for me and the Elite pedal with their load cell brakes make a world of difference in driving. A very nice offer indeed.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on April 23, 2015, 08:38:58 AM
I really like my CSR Elites, too.  Not a bad investment, except that they alone cost what my whole DFGT kit cost.  But as baked suggested, a DFGT is only good for introduction to virtual racing.  I didn't think my new wheel would be 10x better than DFGT, but it really is and it's like banging a hot super model and going back to that first ugly chick you banged and not being totally satisfied.   :'(

When the mention of cost is brought up I like to look at things this way how much time to dollars spent am I going to get out of product X? Even though I had my current pedals and wheel for a while during 5 we will just us six as an example, I am approaching 1100 hours played. When I paid for current set up Clubsport V1 base was $500, BMW rim (cheapest at the time) was $250 and Clubsport pedals were $300 grand total of $1050 plus shipping. As I already said that number in dollars is a bit less than the # of hours I have in 6. We can say five covered some of it and likely covered the shipping costs to where I am under a dollar an hour for something I find my myself doing several hours a week. Going out to eat will cost you more than a dollar an hour, cable will cost you more than that as well, going to the movies is more expensive based on the dollars to time ratio. I have raced go karts and it is substantially more expensive. I used to play competitive tennis in several local leagues many times playing in up to four leagues at once it was more expensive than my online racing.

I know I have left off the cost of the console, my rig and internet service as well as the price of the software but even if I went through and added it all up and could count up all the hours in GT5p, GT5, GT6 and now in Asetto Corsa I am still less than a dollar an hour. My tower is my kids old one that I reformatted and got rid of everything but racing stuff, they passed it along to me when we got both of them new high quality gaming computers as a present for Xmas either last year on the year before. My rig is home made so I could save money where I can and spend money on the things I cannot make or provide without the technical level needed to make them. Doing as much as I can myself lets me spend more on the stuff that really matters. Lets face it basically a rig is just a seat and a stand we are all capable of building a seat and a stand. Especially if you have folks around to help with it or just use your own skills and knowledge in a new application.

Feel like I am ranting now but I wanted to make a point about what we truly spend on what we love to do can not just be lessened to be cheaper but can be lessened to funnel those saved dollars right back into what we love to do. And to make a point about how cheap this hobby is with dollars/hours spent driving in mind.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 23, 2015, 09:38:48 AM
that's a good analytical way to look at it ;)

Might that be part of the reason the wife was so awesome about it?  LOL  I know that's how I justify it to people when they see my setup.  Most just get a console and a TV, maybe a soundbar.  But if it is more than a gaming system to you, but an outlet for you to connect to your hobby (especially one that can be expensive), then it really is about the time to dollars ratio.

Another important aspect is the comfort and ergonomics of your setup compared to cost, hours and potential of injury and chronic pain that can arise from a poor setup.

For me, I've prioritized things in bits and pieces, and have replaced devices that cause any pain after I can isolate that a pain is being caused or worsened by it.

My computer chair is the next thing to go (though not used in my racing rig thanks to a nifty design by Baked)
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on April 23, 2015, 09:54:59 AM
Dollars to hours spent is something I had done long before meeting her but I was still a chintzy old prick about things even when I was young. She has made me more willing to accept a larger value on the dollar side of the ratio.

Little tip the bottom of the seat back and the seat itself is just enough room for a sock filled with rice when sitting in it. Make a pair of them so they can be rotated, in the summer throw them in the freezer then place one of them in that little gap. In the winter microwave them for a minute and half and put them in that gap. Will cool you down or warm you up. Not quite the same way Mercedes does it for their climate controlled seats but still effective. The heated rice will also keep your back from tightening up something the cold weather does to my back every year but so does driving in anything for hours at a time real or sim driving.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on April 23, 2015, 02:56:29 PM
You know, Baked...  that reminds me I think a stoner might have heard you say that when we met to pick up the rig.  I forgot about it until you just reminded me, so thanks!

The best thing for me so far (chronic pain related) is to make sure the seat position is exactly right.  Finding the right feet, ass, back, head, arm, and wheel positions and having it all work well to be slid in/out of front of the TV/workstation, has been challenging indeed.

I know... 1st world problems... it's almost embarrassing to complain about such things

The good thing is that you designed this to be able to be adjusted, like seat, shelf and footrests.  Definitely glad you did.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: GoesTuna11 on April 24, 2015, 12:29:30 AM
Too bad fanatec doesn't have the xl bundles anymore.  You used to be able to get the GT wheel with shifters and elite pedals for something like $250 dollars.  They also had a setup for the CSR wheel but I forget how much that one cost.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: nosoks on May 14, 2015, 06:04:00 PM
if I can hijack this a bit.... while wishing Boston good luck with his choice, can I get a bit of comparison here.

Thrustmaster T500.. expensive but complete(?)..available here

Thrustmaster T300.. expensive, incomplete need pedal and shifter add on,. Is there an adapter for G27 pedals and shifter.. available here

Fanatec so many choices I can't keep up.. limited availability here
 http://www.hargamurah.com/gaming-gear/racing-wheels   this the only Indonesian option I can find so far


Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on May 14, 2015, 06:13:04 PM
if I can hijack this a bit.... while wishing Boston good luck with his choice, can I get a bit of comparison here.

Thrustmaster T500.. expensive but complete(?)..available here

Thrustmaster T300.. expensive, incomplete need pedal and shifter add on,. Is there an adapter for G27 pedals and shifter.. available here

Adapter to use G27 Pedals http://www.ricmotech.com/product_p/rmt-t500w2g27p.htm
Adapter for Fanatec Pedals http://www.basherboards.com/CPX
Thrustmaster TH8A Shifter http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/th8a-add-shifter

Fanatec so many choices I can't keep up.. limited availability here
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: nosoks on May 14, 2015, 06:22:49 PM
thanks Dude............ more research  :o
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on May 14, 2015, 06:36:54 PM
thanks Dude............ more research  :o

I don't know if they ship to you, but the T500RS wheel is on sale at Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004J6KRD6?ref_=od_aui_detailpages00&redirect=true&psc=1&pldnSite=1


It looks like they do ship to you. :)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201074230
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: EX_stream_tuna on May 16, 2015, 02:27:57 PM
Some reviewers and customers have said they actually like the tech and feel in the T300RS more than the more expensive "big brother" T500.  However, as you noted the 500 at least is a completely viable full set.

I will just reiterate that if the T300 really is as good as the 500, and its pedals suck, then the cost is the same after you add some Fanatec pedals or upgrading to the T3PA's that come standard with the 500.  You cannot upgrade during your order and mix-n-match with the T300 Wheel + T3PA's (major annoyance, but if available right now I wouldn't have my CSR-Elites)

The above info about adapters should be preceded by this caveat.  The one by basherboards has a long waiting list of at least 2-3 months, though his production may pick up at some point.  In fairness, he did just respond to an email asking for an update and mine will be produced within a week or so...

I might be back before GT Academy is totally over...
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: ChromeTuna on May 22, 2015, 10:05:19 AM
I didn't know where else to put this, and it seems like as good a place as any.
https://www.gtplanet.net/logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-rumored-for-production/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-rumored-for-production/)

Possible new Logitech wheel that'll be ps4 compatible. I'm thinking this might open the door for the older models, but who knows.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on May 22, 2015, 10:35:03 AM
I didn't know where else to put this, and it seems like as good a place as any.
https://www.gtplanet.net/logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-rumored-for-production/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-rumored-for-production/)

Possible new Logitech wheel that'll be ps4 compatible. I'm thinking this might open the door for the older models, but who knows.

My feeling on this is vaporware.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: nosoks on May 22, 2015, 04:35:57 PM
 :stoopid:
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on May 22, 2015, 04:50:01 PM
I am leaning towards believing it is real. With P Cars on 3 platforms, A Corsa then the stalwarts of Forza, iRacing and of course G Turismo there is a much larger market than when they (Logitech) claimed to be stepping away from it. I know that the pie is being sliced up with more competitors in that market with multiple models available from Fanatec, Thrustmaster as well as single model offerings from Mad Catz and some odds and ends high end stuff. There is still a nice segment of the market available to a manufacturer who will make a mid level offering. While the prices I have read are a touch higher than mid level those are rumors at this point and I can see where Logitech might be just be smart enough to slot right in that mid level spot. Of course that's just my opinion I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on May 22, 2015, 05:04:41 PM
I am leaning towards believing it is real. With P Cars on 3 platforms, A Corsa then the stalwarts of Forza, iRacing and of course G Turismo there is a much larger market than when they (Logitech) claimed to be stepping away from it. I know that the pie is being sliced up with more competitors in that market with multiple models available from Fanatec, Thrustmaster as well as single model offerings from Mad Catz and some odds and ends high end stuff. There is still a nice segment of the market available to a manufacturer who will make a mid level offering. While the prices I have read are a touch higher than mid level those are rumors at this point and I can see where Logitech might be just be smart enough to slot right in that mid level spot. Of course that's just my opinion I could be wrong.


Well amar is usually in the know and he says it is real. So..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=164704422&postcount=51
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: nosoks on May 29, 2015, 12:08:32 AM
Oldboy posted about this item at the Planet. Don't mean to step on his toes

http://www.ricmotech.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=F1+V5&Submit=
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on May 29, 2015, 03:55:48 AM
Oldboy posted about this item at the Planet. Don't mean to step on his toes

http://www.ricmotech.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=F1+V5&Submit=

Unless Oldboy owns one and can verify FFB function and no input lag I would be skeptical.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/ps4-with-g25-maxrace-f1-v5-or-titan-one.324017/

Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: PeyePete on May 29, 2015, 05:56:17 AM
Oldboy posted about this item at the Planet. Don't mean to step on his toes

http://www.ricmotech.com/SearchResults.asp?Search=F1+V5&Submit=

Unless Oldboy owns one and can verify FFB function and no input lag I would be skeptical.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/ps4-with-g25-maxrace-f1-v5-or-titan-one.324017/

This is what Oldboy posted in the Old Geezers thread at the Planet.

The adapter is from RICMOTECH SIMULATION RACING EQUIPMENT in Miami Fl. and is called: MaxRace F-1 V-5 for PS4
 It allows any Logitech wheels to be played on the PS4. It sells for $119.95 + shipping.
 With Project Cars, I had the controller set for automatic gear shift and the paddle on the wheel was controlling the camera views. This way, it was working fine but I wanted to shift manually. So to use the paddles to shift, in manual mode, we had to reassign button to get R1 button as gear shift up ( Used triangle button) and L1 button as gear shift down ( used the square button) In the game Project Cars, we can assign buttons on the controller as we want using the OPTION button and fallowing the instructions.
 I hope this explanation is clear enough, if not let me know
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: nosoks on May 29, 2015, 06:07:52 AM
thanks Pete
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on May 29, 2015, 10:34:49 AM
More power to you.

I thought he was just looking at buying. I see he has a unit and it is working for him. Very good.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/gtp-geezer-club.310915/page-71#post-10724086
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: ChromeTuna on June 05, 2015, 08:14:22 AM
https://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-details/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-details/)

If this thing is really going to be around $200, I might pick one up. With the way they have pretty much screwed controller users on ps4, a wheel is almost a requirement.

Sucks, because it takes out the convinence of just plopping down on the couch, and running some races.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on June 05, 2015, 10:18:34 AM
https://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-details/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-details/)

If this thing is really going to be around $200, I might pick one up. With the way they have pretty much screwed controller users on ps4, a wheel is almost a requirement.

Sucks, because it takes out the convinence of just plopping down on the couch, and running some races.

You could go wheel stand route. Something like this.
http://www.fanatec.com/us-en/wheel-stands-table-clamps/csl-wheel-stand-us.html
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: GoesTuna11 on June 05, 2015, 01:12:44 PM
https://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-details/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/more-leaked-logitech-g29-driving-force-wheel-details/)

If this thing is really going to be around $200, I might pick one up. With the way they have pretty much screwed controller users on ps4, a wheel is almost a requirement.

Sucks, because it takes out the convinence of just plopping down on the couch, and running some races.



You could go wheel stand route. Something like this.
http://www.fanatec.com/us-en/wheel-stands-table-clamps/csl-wheel-stand-us.html

I have an earlier version of one of those.  I've been using it for over 6 years and it is still going strong although I would like to replace it with a real cockpit.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: ChromeTuna on June 09, 2015, 07:16:20 PM
This wheel is leaking like a stuck pig...
https://www.gtplanet.net/logitech-g29-official-photos-details-leaked-on-amazon-de/ (https://www.gtplanet.net/logitech-g29-official-photos-details-leaked-on-amazon-de/)
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Wiz on June 09, 2015, 08:45:31 PM
I'm surprised they didn't go belt drive.  :-\
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on June 09, 2015, 09:30:11 PM
I'm surprised they didn't go belt drive.  :-\
I agree but then again it was the gear noise that finally drove me away from my old G27.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on June 09, 2015, 11:19:58 PM
I'm surprised they didn't go belt drive.  :-\

It seems like odd sales hype. Today a couple of small brushless motors, pulleys and belts make for an awesome design. A different wheel on a G27 package it what this looks like. The price is all that can redeem it.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: GoesTuna11 on June 09, 2015, 11:50:45 PM
Belt drive?  Direct drive is all the rage these days.

But ya, it looks like this is just a cheap attempt at cashing in on the PS4 wheel market.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: ChromeTuna on June 10, 2015, 05:08:01 AM


But ya, it looks like this is just a cheap attempt at cashing in on the PS4 wheel market.

If the attempt is cheap enough, I might go for it.  :)
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: DudeTuna on June 10, 2015, 11:03:46 AM
Belt drive?  Direct drive is all the rage these days.

But ya, it looks like this is just a cheap attempt at cashing in on the PS4 wheel market.

Direct drive wheels are a couple grand or more though. I was referring more to what might be in it's price range.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Wiz on June 11, 2015, 07:11:31 AM
$450 for the G29.   :o

Plus $75 more for the shifter. 

Best comment I've seen...   "So Logitech finally decides to get back into the console market, only to price themselves right back out of it." 
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Boston77Bruins on June 11, 2015, 08:49:58 AM
We should know the true price next week at E3.  I've seen #'s ranging from $200 to now this $450.
Honestly, $450 is waaaaaaaaay to much to charge for this wheel.  It's a fucking G27 that had  some plastic surgery for crying out loud.
I'm still very interested in this wheel though.  I know it's using dated tech but if it offers the reliability of previous G series wheels, then it should be a solid piece for years to come.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on June 11, 2015, 09:22:54 AM
I still contend that gear noise is aggravating in best situations but is unacceptable entirely in others such as round 4 of GT Academy or rallying courses or if you share your driving space with someone else. If your rig is in a common area of your house like mine was when I had my G27 you feel guilty when you run rally events that everyone else has to tolerate the noise generated by your hobby. 

About the price range if the noise wont bother you then up to $250 is the most I can see this setup being worth and that would be including the shifter. If Logitech asks more than that I would start weighing other options.

I say this having owned four different wheels now. Not claiming I am close to any sort of professional reviewer but I do have some hours put in to all of this.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: GoesTuna11 on June 11, 2015, 10:11:07 AM
Ars is reporting that only the xbox version will get the shifter and that the PS4 version will be PS4 only and not PC.  Really strange if it is actually true: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2015/06/logitech-g29-and-g920-racing-wheels-coming-to-ps4-and-xbox-one/#p3
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Wiz on June 11, 2015, 10:43:36 AM
Really strange if it is actually true:

It isn't.   Logi already cleared that up and both will be compatible with PC.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Wiz on June 11, 2015, 10:56:41 AM
Official price for the G29 is $400  http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g29-driving-force?wt.ac=g29

Shifter is $60

Logitech is on drugs.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: ChromeTuna on June 11, 2015, 11:02:18 AM
Oh well, controller it is.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Wiz on June 11, 2015, 11:06:27 AM
Fanatec CSR w/ CSR Elite pedals is still the best deal on the market IMO.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: Feldynn on June 11, 2015, 11:06:46 AM
Seems like Logitech are on similar drugs to Saitek / MadCatz!  The new Farming Simulator custom wheel just went up for preorder:

(http://store.madcatz.com/netsuite-header_bndle.png)

http://store.madcatz.com/categories/farm-sim/Saitek-Farming-Simulator-Wheel-Pedals-and-Vehicle-Side-Panel-Bundle-for-PC-and-Mac.html

Honestly I was kind of interested in it, then I saw the $300 price tag, doesn't even seem like it has any kind of force feedback beyond being "center sprung".  Granted it's for a farming game but still, at that price I'd like something!

Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: TheHotstepper on June 11, 2015, 03:14:31 PM
Haha Feldynn that's awesome!

I've had my G25 for almost 10 years. Knock on wood it's still working and I'll keep using it until I can no longer.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on June 11, 2015, 05:47:46 PM
Official price for the G29 is $400  http://gaming.logitech.com/en-us/product/g29-driving-force?wt.ac=g29

Shifter is $60

Logitech is on drugs.

Funny I almost posted on the deathstar the Logitech must be higher than I ever have been.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on June 11, 2015, 05:51:54 PM
Fanatec CSR w/ CSR Elite pedals is still the best deal on the market IMO.

That plus the CSR shifters yes two of them, one is sequential the other is H pattern and the total for all 4 pieces would still only come to $405 plus the Elite pedals are a load cell brake pedal unlike the Logi offerings. So cheaper more specialized parts wise and a load cell why would anyone buy the G29 is something I fail to understand.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: MasterGT on July 22, 2015, 01:29:03 PM
I still contend that gear noise is aggravating in best situations

Until this G25, I always bought cheap Logitech wheels and played away from the rest of the family. With full cup headphones, I never noticed, although I have heard other people on-line turn their wheels. Wasn't a big deal, in the long run.
Title: Re: Help with wheel advice/knowledge please
Post by: BakedTuna on July 23, 2015, 01:12:00 AM
I still contend that gear noise is aggravating in best situations

Until this G25, I always bought cheap Logitech wheels and played away from the rest of the family. With full cup headphones, I never noticed, although I have heard other people on-line turn their wheels. Wasn't a big deal, in the long run.

Go without the earphones in a room shared with someone else and do one of the rally tracks the gear noise is a bit too much for me in that situation.